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Post by mohs on Apr 3, 2009 0:23:28 GMT -5
the rhetorical question do you warm your stone? is answered ! Happiness is a warm rock - o yes it is
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2009 2:38:54 GMT -5
Candle wax on: Yes; slowly in stages up to 30 degrees Centigrade.
Candle wax off: Yes; slowly in stages up to 50 degrees Centigrade.
PVC wood glue on: No other than room Temp. Use a generous quantity & gently lay the stone or slab in to the glue & let is set under it's own weight, leave for at least 24 - 36 hours to harden.
PVC wood glue off: No, gently lay the stone or slab in to sealed container of Acetone solution for at least 24 hours.
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jcinpc
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Post by jcinpc on Apr 8, 2009 14:25:24 GMT -5
I mainly just use my fingers but if its a smaller piece then I`ll dop. I always have a piece of carpet foam under the wheel I`m using in case it slings it out. I havent had any fingernails on my fingers for awhile.I usually tape them if they start to bleed.
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Post by krazydiamond on Apr 8, 2009 17:08:28 GMT -5
i dop, but i don't do wop, happiness IS a warm stone. (yes it is).
i use green wax, electric dop pot, aluminium dop sticks, sometimes wood, too. the key is to heat the wax properly AND to heat the stone. and i still have stones pop off sometimes, usually because i am impatient and start to dop before the wax comes to temperature. cold water and cold temps do not help.
when finished, i put them in the freezer for at least an hour and then one by one, take each stick out, put the cab in you hand to create condensation between cab and wax, usually pops right off. softer stones don't always cooperate, requiring some razor blade action sometimes.
my fingernails suffer irrespective but i've never actually had to go to the emergency room for slipping with the razor blade. yet.
KD
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jcinpc
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Post by jcinpc on Apr 8, 2009 18:19:15 GMT -5
I use a planters pnut can with an indention beat on the bottom and put it over a light on the lamp, it has worked fine for whenever I need it.
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fisherman510
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Post by fisherman510 on Apr 9, 2009 8:43:55 GMT -5
I use the Super Glue Gel rather than the regular liquid. No need for an excellarant. I put a little bit on my stick, either a nail or a golf tee, and set it upright on the stone. No problem with it staying in place till it dries.
Bob
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Post by mohs on Apr 9, 2009 15:56:09 GMT -5
ASI your the Karate Kid of dopping! KD I don't dop; but I do- do wop You don't do wop; but you do- do dop? I think we'd a make great team
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Post by krazydiamond on Apr 10, 2009 14:28:39 GMT -5
ya don't dop, ya don't dop what do ya do?
a match made in rock heaven, deeptime!
KD
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Post by mohs on Apr 10, 2009 15:49:04 GMT -5
I do ! I do !
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Post by rockmanken on Apr 10, 2009 19:31:06 GMT -5
I have used green dop wax and dowel rods for over 35 years and occasionally one will come off. Usually it's because the water is too cold or I got impatient and didn't let the wax and stone cool to room temp naturally. I put a bit of wax on the heated stone to see if it will stick first, then get wax on my stick and place it on the stone and smooth it with my fingers(they are calloused from the hot wax) I built my dop pot with a 100 watt light bulb and flue tin.
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Post by bobby1 on Apr 12, 2009 0:33:59 GMT -5
I use an alcohol lamp to heat the stone and the dop wax. I dop most of my cabs, but not always. On the really big ones I always dop because it is hard to hold onto the cab when it is wet with polish. I always use wood dowels as dop sticks because they are easier to grip and manipulate. So far after many decades of cabbing I haven't developed carpal tunnel syndrome, tendonitis or arthritis. Bob
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Post by mohs on Apr 20, 2009 23:42:39 GMT -5
I read somewhere bobby where you been grinding rocks for 30 years? well actually your a lapidary artist I wish I had started 30 years ago but I still wouldn't reach your plateau I mean... ya don't need a ole hack like me to tellya you cabs are sharp clear handsome but it your perspective that I could learn from
anyway dop on Man!
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Post by BAZ on Apr 26, 2009 16:46:54 GMT -5
I used to dop....but now that I have tried superglue...I doubt I'll ever dop again. I was so tired of the wax failing or me not knowing how to dop properly....especially in the cold. Since I've used superglue...I haven't had one stone fall off. I also have the accelerator spray which makes an instant bond. Steve OK You guys are great. Super glue on the head of a 16 penny nail is the way to go! Thanks Harley, Shannon and Steve!
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Post by mohs on Apr 30, 2009 0:03:48 GMT -5
2 popular products for super dopping
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Post by Hard Rock Cafe on Apr 30, 2009 12:24:37 GMT -5
I wish I could find a local supplier for Hot Stuff, Super T, etc. Haven't found one yet. Joann's, Michael's, and Dick Blick are a bust.
Chuck
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Post by fishenman on May 4, 2009 19:49:07 GMT -5
A woodworking supply or a good hardwood lumber yard may have what you need.
Geoff
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Post by BAZ on May 6, 2009 20:27:30 GMT -5
Or an R/C type of hobby shop. Good glues are used in R/C gliders, static models, etc.
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Post by sandsman1 on May 6, 2009 20:39:51 GMT -5
I'm alittle off to begin with but i have tried dopping but if you ever seen any of my cabs they have strait sharp angles and i found it way to hard to hold a good line with it dopped but the few i have tried that where domed i found it was better/easy to shape the dome when dopped but 99% of my cabs iv done are flat faced like so
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Post by BAZ on May 6, 2009 22:27:19 GMT -5
And still freakin' awesome John!
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Post by mohs on May 8, 2009 11:01:20 GMT -5
i really like that shaped cab john and you did it excellently really really cool lots going on in it
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