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Post by jspencer on Feb 4, 2012 15:34:53 GMT -5
Hoping to get cutting here soon with this thing. Can anyone tell me what kind of pressure I need to feed the dual coolant hoses on the blade? Where would be my best bet for a pump at a low cost? Saw has no oily residue on it so I`m wondering if they were`nt running it with water cooling the blade instead of oil. Thanks in advance
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Feb 4, 2012 16:55:45 GMT -5
I used to have one of those saws. The pump that came with it was one of those mushroom shape tower type pond pumps with kid of a weak impeller system. I'm sure one of the stronger small sump pumps would be much more efficient and durable. Someone I saw once had a set up where he pumped from five gallon buckets rather than the rather small well in the saw The Northern Supply catalog I believe has quite a few pumps but probably almost any big hardware store or pond supply shop would have them too. The problem with the stock Lortone set up was, when the oil became full of suspended rock dust after a few cuts, the old pump would no longer push enough of the then heavier oil. And, as soon as the oil starts to run low the blade will dry out and grind to a halt and often, dish. As you know, those saws are a giant pain in the patoot because you have to clean a lot and to clean you have to lift the entire heavy unit from the pan to properly clean the sump and the sump really does not hold a lot of oil for the pump to push.....Mel
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Post by shermlock on Feb 4, 2012 19:01:01 GMT -5
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Post by Rockoonz on Feb 4, 2012 22:44:38 GMT -5
I tried running one of those with water once. Didn't even finish 2 cuts on a relatively soft rock before the blade was ruined.
Lee
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Post by jspencer on Feb 5, 2012 0:34:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies guys. I wasn`t sure if a pond pump would do the job or not. The saw has a 6" deep pan it sits in with a drain nipple. The coolant hoses are pretty good size entering the saw hood app. 1/4". It came with a frame made from 1/4" steel rod welded together for making a hood over the saw and keep the oil from slinging everywhere. The blade has plenty of cuts left in it so I don`t want to ruin it for sure. It looks almost unused. I checked Hilquist site and this blade goes for $311.
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Post by glennz01 on Jan 12, 2019 3:38:09 GMT -5
Old topic but what's everyone using for a pump for this beast or is the one in link still the best... preferribly a pump with a anti rock screen.
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Post by glennz01 on Jan 14, 2019 23:35:10 GMT -5
Anyone?
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vitzitziltecpatl
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Post by vitzitziltecpatl on Jan 15, 2019 8:59:30 GMT -5
Just a generic swamp cooler pump on mine. Has always worked fine. Am currently using Finevestan 85 oil.
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Post by johnjsgems on Jan 15, 2019 11:35:07 GMT -5
On the chop saw I manufactured for a while I used a Ryobi universal tile saw pump. It was the only submersible pump that would pump dirty water (rock dust in suspension). All pumps worked until I started them again and impellars would be stuck. I used a swamp cooler pump with fine netting around the base on a Lortone copy with only issue being the supply tubes were really small and frequently plugged up.
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Post by glennz01 on Jan 15, 2019 16:10:06 GMT -5
Just a generic swamp cooler pump on mine. Has always worked fine. Am currently using Finevestan 85 oil. Did you have to expand the hole in the saw, that's what I'd not want to do |
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vitzitziltecpatl
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Post by vitzitziltecpatl on Jan 15, 2019 21:43:46 GMT -5
Well, this pump was with the saw when we bought it. Our LS14 has a rectangular opening in the back left corner of the saw table. The base on the pump is roughly 3" x 4" (from memory) and just fits down into the sump pan. |
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Post by glennz01 on Jan 15, 2019 22:21:21 GMT -5
Well, this pump was with the saw when we bought it. Our LS14 has a rectangular opening in the back left corner of the saw table. The base on the pump is roughly 3" x 4" (from memory) and just fits down into the sump pan. What brand of pump or rather an Amazon link.. my problem I see are most have a larger base |
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vitzitziltecpatl
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Post by vitzitziltecpatl on Jan 16, 2019 0:04:27 GMT -5
I'll have a look tomorrow. Hope the label is still legible. Will let you know... .
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Post by johnjsgems on Jan 16, 2019 19:04:13 GMT -5
They likely used the brass Teel pumps originally. They may still be available but were really expensive when I had my saw. My original Teel pump was fine but cord was bare of insulation and no easy way to replace it. Back then Little Giant cooler pumps had same round base. The cheaper pumps I see at Home Depot have larger bases with built in strainers.
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vitzitziltecpatl
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Post by vitzitziltecpatl on Jan 16, 2019 20:12:32 GMT -5
Yeah, John, I have a Teel pump I got in a different deal. It still works.
The pump currently in the LS14 just says "Cooler Pump" on top. The top (motor) housing is 3-1/2" x 5-1/2" and it does have a slightly smaller strainer base. Just vertical slots in the plastic - nuthin' fancy.
This cooler pump was in the saw when we got it eight years ago, and was obviously not new at that time. No telling how old it is. |
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