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Post by jamesp on Nov 11, 2014 5:22:05 GMT -5
Sounds to me like some self locking nuts (also single use item) or make a man out of them and double nut them. Anything that starts coming loose on me gets an extra nut. Works every time. Jim bang on Jim. Two cheap nuts locked together is a done deal. And reusable.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 11, 2014 5:58:02 GMT -5
I get crushed glass from Strategic Materials and find it to be a great filler for most rocks. $70/ton, and they have many operations in the US. Based in California I believe. Do you use the glass for tumbles other than obsidian? You use it in all tumbles instead of ceramic filler? I have a Strategic Materials down in Sarasota (an hour south of here) - what specifically do you buy? And, do they sell by less than a ton? Pretty sure the wife would frown if I brought a ton of crushed glass home. How big a pile (cubic yards) is a ton of glass? Yes captbob. When tumbling a batch that is all big stuff say 3 ounces to 12 ounces. Specifically whole corals from your back yard www.flickr.com/photos/67205364@N06/sets/72157638304227333Or if coarse grind is almost finished and barrel is running low like 5/8 full and filler is needed to finish the grind instead of rough agate that has to be separated. That would be an addition of untumbled sharp glass. Any time the barrel is running low in finer grit and polish stages for some reason, glass is added. Especially if it is clanking in pre-polish or polish. But will add glass that has already been rounded by tumbling at some stage for finer grits. I tumble a lot of thin chips that are 2-4 inches long with 3-8 ounce chunks that get chipped by the chunks. CC phenom I like the slurry the glass makes. And it is easy to clean and see 60 0r 220 grit particles that might damage a 500 - 14,000 load. Put it in a shallow screen pan and wash it, look at it w/a bright background and it is easy to see any foreign particles in it. Strategic crushes class to 3/8 and 1/2 for the most part for remelt. The guy there lets me fill 5 gallon buckets. I used to trade tumbles to the other manager. The new manager was happy w/$50 and I filled about 15 five gallon buckets. I could have filled 30, just did not need that much. I was able to fill from the blue and fancy green piles, they keep them separated by colors. Sometimes the fancy glass is sold and they won't let you get from it. I took photos last trip. Fancy glass with slag mixed in. They hate slag glass, but have recently found buyers for it at this location
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Post by captbob on Nov 11, 2014 8:58:48 GMT -5
That glass you brought home smell like old beer? Gotta wonder if it would attract cockroaches down here.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 11, 2014 9:04:12 GMT -5
That glass you brought home smell like old beer? Gotta wonder if it would attract cockroaches down here. and it has beer wrappers/labels. I throw it in a tumbler and run it w/out grit.
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Post by captbob on Nov 11, 2014 9:20:02 GMT -5
yeah... that would turn into a huge roach party if I put that in my back yard. Best stick with ceramics I guess.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 11, 2014 18:59:44 GMT -5
yeah... that would turn into a huge roach party if I put that in my back yard. Best stick with ceramics I guess. Always keep the food away from living space at Ocala Nat Forest. flies and ants. Just a few crumbs and here they come.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 13:36:12 GMT -5
Sounds to me like some self locking nuts (also single use item) or make a man out of them and double nut them. Anything that starts coming loose on me gets an extra nut. Works every time. Jim Two nuts "jammed" together seems like it should work. But if they vibrate, they both turn and travel on the bolt at the same rate. Is it the right solution in a purposeful vibratory environment? The pump housing makers use nylon lock nuts. There is a new bolt that has dual threads and two nuts one threaded for each. The Perfect Lock Bolt. Because the nuts travel on the bolt at different rates, they vibrate together and will not come loose. I am told, buy the maker, face to face at a trade show. Personally, I'd simply use loctite, easy peasy agatesy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 13:41:53 GMT -5
yeah... that would turn into a huge roach party if I put that in my back yard. Best stick with ceramics I guess. Roaches make great bait for bream, and the local lizards will love you!
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Post by jamesp on Dec 31, 2014 14:12:38 GMT -5
Locktite is great. Just make sure you use the right one. Some permeant, some removable. The permanent bolt looks like a get ur done.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 15:42:02 GMT -5
Locktite is great. Just make sure you use the right one. Some permanent, some removable. The permanent bolt looks like a get ur done. Always think "blue". Blue loctite and blue of any other threadlocker brand is the standard removable one. Interestingly, the force to remove the nut AFTER the loctite bond is broken is greater than is required to break the bond! I think the "permanent" loctite can be removed by heating the bolt to destroy the polymer. Like 400F or so. The chemistry is polymerized saccharin.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 5, 2015 17:53:12 GMT -5
Locktite is great. Just make sure you use the right one. Some permanent, some removable. The permanent bolt looks like a get ur done. Always think "blue". Blue loctite and blue of any other threadlocker brand is the standard removable one. Interestingly, the force to remove the nut AFTER the loctite bond is broken is greater than is required to break the bond! I think the "permanent" loctite can be removed by heating the bolt to destroy the polymer. Like 400F or so. The chemistry is polymerized saccharin. Is red the one that hardens ? The blue sounds familiar. Never knew that code. And heat unlocks the other, brilliant stuff.
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Post by 39don on Jan 5, 2015 19:43:08 GMT -5
Always think "blue". Blue loctite and blue of any other threadlocker brand is the standard removable one. Interestingly, the force to remove the nut AFTER the loctite bond is broken is greater than is required to break the bond! I think the "permanent" loctite can be removed by heating the bolt to destroy the polymer. Like 400F or so. The chemistry is polymerized saccharin. Is red the one that hardens ? The blue sounds familiar. Never knew that code. And heat unlocks the other, brilliant stuff. Red is the harder one and heat breaks down any of the loctite's plus most all super glue's. We used to grind Carboloy by super gluing it to a steel plate so we could grind on a surface grinder with a magnetic chuck, heating it when finished, Carboloy is not magnetic. In these winter months I super glue my cabs to nail heads because the cold water causes the waxed cab preforms to break off of a wood dowel. When I want to remove the cab I heat the nail shank with a propane torch while holding with pliers. I do soak some in acetone but I'm usually in a hurry for the cab. I really do not like using nails to hold preforms. 39don
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Post by jamesp on Jan 5, 2015 20:05:51 GMT -5
Is red the one that hardens ? The blue sounds familiar. Never knew that code. And heat unlocks the other, brilliant stuff. Red is the harder one and heat breaks down any of the loctite's plus most all super glue's. We used to grind Carboloy by super gluing it to a steel plate so we could grind on a surface grinder with a magnetic chuck, heating it when finished, Carboloy is not magnetic. In these winter months I super glue my cabs to nail heads because the cold water causes the waxed cab preforms to break off of a wood dowel. When I want to remove the cab I heat the nail shank with a propane torch while holding with pliers. I do soak some in acetone but I'm usually in a hurry for the cab. I really do not like using nails to hold preforms. 39don Interesting trick of the trade Don. Super glue has amazing properties. Especially on flat surfaces, like 2 plates of glass. It can even be somewhat poor at bonding rougher surfaces.
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