Wooferhound
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Lortone QT66 and 3A
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Post by Wooferhound on Mar 22, 2017 16:40:14 GMT -5
Here is a picture of an almost dry cake of Recovered Powder from the Overflow Bucket that is after the Settlement Tank. This is very fine dust made from broken down Grits, Polishes, and ground down Rocks. This is what I plan to use as Polish in an experiment that I'm going to try in the very near future. Here is another cake of the recovered dust that I believe is too contaminated to experiment with. I am mainly curious if it sets up hard like cement. Also want to experiment with adding it to the dirt when starting my veggie garden this year. Here is the recovered grit from the settlement tank that I am adding to all my stage 1 tumbles.
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Wooferhound
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Post by Wooferhound on Mar 28, 2017 18:34:25 GMT -5
I am starting out with 40/70 Stage 1 grit, the biggest grit in the recovery process is somewhere between 200 & 500 grit. I checked the recovered grit from the settlement tank yesterday and it is still barely perceptible as a cutting grit. I will still add this to stage one tumbles.
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Mar 29, 2017 4:51:57 GMT -5
I am starting out with 40/70 Stage 1 grit, the biggest grit in the recovery process is somewhere between 200 & 500 grit. I checked the recovered grit from the settlement tank yesterday and it is still barely perceptible as a cutting grit. I will still add this to stage one tumbles. That dried cake serves well as a slurry starter woofer. It is basically clay. Clay is fine particles created by similar natural processes. You might consider using a polish instead. Slurry from coarse grinding has a lot of tiny SiC particles that are not as friendly about laying down a polish.
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Wooferhound
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Post by Wooferhound on May 9, 2017 15:58:41 GMT -5
I have made a Coupla improvements on my cleanout sink. The first was a paint job, The old paint was nonweatherproof Polyurethane and was starting to deteriorate in the weather, so now it's painted with Outdoor Blue Spraypaint. The main improvement was just the addition of a screened sieve right under the main drain of the sink. This is to catch the larger rock pieces and the plastic beads. The first colander has holes about 1/4 inch large and allows the beads and smaller rock chips to go down the sink drain where they are conveniently captured in the screened colander for later use. The small rock pieces are added to my peagravel bucket for use in Stage 1 tumbles.
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Luminin
spending too much on rocks
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Post by Luminin on Sept 30, 2017 21:58:10 GMT -5
This is fantastic! Thanks for the idea and through experimentation!
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Wooferhound
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Post by Wooferhound on Oct 1, 2017 8:58:06 GMT -5
Looking forward to my cleanouts today. Need to make a couple of improvements . . .
- Surface needs a paint that is both durable to weather and rock slurry - I need to make better legs cause I almost broke one of them with the Lawn Mower - Really would have liked to have a Larger Tabletop for inspection, sorting and having multiple barrels & parts around - Needs to be a little taller than a normal 29 or 30 inch table, I feel that I am bending over too much
This was originally built as an experiment out of parts that I already had. At that time I really did not think I would get to be so interested in this hobby.
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Post by TheRock on Oct 1, 2017 23:53:46 GMT -5
Great Idea Woofer! will be integrating something like this in my new garage shop lapidary room. ~Duke
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goatgrinder
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Post by goatgrinder on Oct 9, 2017 18:30:23 GMT -5
yes !! a 2 stage separator ! Prelude to coarse grit diamond grit seperation. COUP de GRAS Making an offer on your patent Well sure, but don't forget to use the lightest stuff to polish your fogged car lenses. And it polishes the car very nicely too! Make sure all the scratchy stuff goes somewhere else. Only made that mistake once.
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Wooferhound
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Post by Wooferhound on Oct 9, 2017 19:05:31 GMT -5
yes !! a 2 stage separator ! Prelude to coarse grit diamond grit seperation. COUP de GRAS Making an offer on your patent Well sure, but don't forget to use the lightest stuff to polish your fogged car lenses. And it polishes the car very nicely too! Make sure all the scratchy stuff goes somewhere else. Only made that mistake once.
I tried to use the small stuff for polish ... but it didn't work ... forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/78394/using-recovered-slurry-polish-experiment
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fishnpinball
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Post by fishnpinball on Oct 9, 2017 19:21:02 GMT -5
Great Idea, but it makes it harder to get rid of that stuff that you have had laying around for years that you might use... lol.
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Wooferhound
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Post by Wooferhound on Dec 4, 2017 9:34:23 GMT -5
I built the tabletop 30 inches tall which is normal height for any sitdown table like the one in your kitchen, but this has proven to be to short with some stress in my back and neck after working over it for an hour. Next version will be normal kitchen counter height which seems to be 36 inches. The settlement tank that recovers the grit is a plastic kitchen storage container. It sits outside in the Sunlight all day and the plastic is starting to breakdown and become brittle. I'm now looking for something more durable, like a long metal breadpan. It will be a little more trouble to punch the drain hole into but not a big deal Here is a picture of the setup from this morning
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flintstone
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Post by flintstone on Mar 30, 2018 17:41:41 GMT -5
Long ago on a different forum there was a discussion about how to separate grit. The method that stuck in my mind involved water flowing upward in a pipe.
Large particles settle faster than small ones. At a low flow rate, fine particles rise upward in the pipe and can be collected. Turning up the flow rate causes the next-larger set to rise. Sort of a dynamic settlement tank.
I don't recall any photos of actual projects so maybe it was just theoretical. For instance, I have no idea what the bottom mud container would look like. Sealed but able to be opened to add mud. Any changes in pipe diameter would affect linear flow rate
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Post by parfive on Mar 30, 2018 19:36:58 GMT -5
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Wooferhound
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Post by Wooferhound on Mar 31, 2018 8:16:15 GMT -5
Long ago on a different forum there was a discussion about how to separate grit. The method that stuck in my mind involved water flowing upward in a pipe. Large particles settle faster than small ones. At a low flow rate, fine particles rise upward in the pipe and can be collected. Turning up the flow rate causes the next-larger set to rise. Sort of a dynamic settlement tank. In this system there isn't a steady flow rate. I'm rinsing Rocks, Barrels, Lids and the sink it's self. Plenty of On-Off cycles. But the tub that recovers the slurry catches anything bigger than powder and that works great for me, makes a great slurry starter.
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Wooferhound
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Post by Wooferhound on Aug 18, 2019 21:13:28 GMT -5
I did a coupla cleanouts today and made a video.
Cleanout Sink for Rock Tumbler Barrels with Grit Recovery
Cleaning out a Rock Polishing Barrel is a messy process that usually takes a long time to complete. I got tired of this quickly and also wanted to recover any unused grit that may remain in the used rock slurry.
So I made an outdoor sink with a small table surface to make it all cleaner, easier and faster. In this video I will Clean Out two 6 pound tumbler barrels in about 10 minutes. The Tumbler being used is a Lortone QT66. The Grit Recovery System is explained in detail.
----------- Never wash used tumbler slurry down a regular household drain because the slurry will settle out and eventually clog up the plumbing. -----------
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harrym
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Post by harrym on Aug 19, 2019 17:55:34 GMT -5
I like it!
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Post by miket on Aug 20, 2019 10:20:30 GMT -5
I completely missed this thread, thanks for the video. Very cool.
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