Wooferhound
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Post by Wooferhound on Jun 13, 2017 11:22:02 GMT -5
Fordite is multiple layers of paint that are dried on top of each other and so thick that it can be tumbled. Today I decided to start making some, so I went out to the garage and got all the spraypaint that I have. I am using a 1/4 inch thick plastic surface to layer the paint onto. First I coated it with motor oil so it will release easily when I am finished. Will buy some more paint with brighter colors to add and make it more interesting. Here it is with the first coat on top of the oil layer plus the sucky selection of colors that I have available now. Interested to see how the Silver paint works out. I want to use a lot of Red and Blue. I have a large quantity of Black Brushed Bronze that will be used a lot. Thinking about making it about 3/4 inch thick before calling it finished. Should be able to get several coats a day on there and expect it to take about a month to make it.
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notjustone
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Post by notjustone on Jun 13, 2017 11:26:33 GMT -5
Fordite is multiple layers of paint that are dried on top of each other and so thick that it can be tumbled. Today I decided to start making some, so I went out to the garage and got all the spraypaint that I have. I am using a 1/4 inch thick plastic surface to layer the paint onto. First I coated it with motor oil so it will release easily when I am finished. Will buy some more paint with brighter colors to add and make it more interesting. Here it is with the first coat on top of the oil layer plus the sucky selection of colors that I have available now. Interested to see how the Silver paint works out. I want to use a lot of Red and Blue. I have a large quantity of Black Brushed Bronze that will be used a lot. Thinking about making it about 3/4 inch thick before calling it finished. Should be able to get several coats a day on there and expect it to take about a month to make it. isn't the fordite baked on powder coat?
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Post by captbob on Jun 13, 2017 11:27:23 GMT -5
wondering how long it takes to stack up 3/4ths of an inch microns at a time. this could get expensive
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Wooferhound
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Post by Wooferhound on Jun 13, 2017 11:37:09 GMT -5
isn't the fordite baked on powder coat? Not sure what the makeup of the Fordite is, But I have This Spraypaint and I'm not afraid to use it. Will be baked in the Sun. It's a test, I just want to try it out . . .
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Post by fantastic5 on Jun 13, 2017 12:48:34 GMT -5
Hmmmm. Faux-fordite. With the price of fordite, this could be really interesting... if you can get it to hold together, take a polish, not cost a fortune or make you crazy trying to get it done. Keep posting your progress!
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unclesoska
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Post by unclesoska on Jun 13, 2017 12:57:34 GMT -5
Has anyone looked into auto body repair shops as a possible source?
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Post by metalsmith on Jun 13, 2017 13:08:26 GMT -5
Has anyone looked into auto body repair shops as a possible source? I believe that the rarity of Fordite stems from the way that changing technology i.e. masking off and sprays have eliminated the 'environment' of formation. I'm not sure spray-paint will cut it (pun intended) for hardness; surely the repeat baking of enamel paints is where Fordite gains the material strengths that make it a viable lapidary material. I could imagine that Fordite can be created, but that the costs for repeatedly cooking will exceed any 'value' to be gained. It would only work on a huge scale or as happened as a by-product of another process where the process is financially fulfilling. But I'll celebrate your successes if you achieve it and don't let it be said I'm a nay-sayer. I wish you all the best & watching with interest.
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Wooferhound
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Post by Wooferhound on Jun 13, 2017 14:48:59 GMT -5
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Post by fantastic5 on Jun 13, 2017 14:55:27 GMT -5
Looks like this experiment could be a slippery slope!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 14:59:44 GMT -5
This looks like it could turn out real cool. I'm going to have to keep an eye on this post! Good luck!
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zekester55
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Post by zekester55 on Jun 13, 2017 15:40:04 GMT -5
Seen Fordite only once at a recent gem show. The purveyor of it kept telling g folks that it was from the booth they painted the corvettes in. Guess he really knew his stuff!!! Good luck with your experiment, it will be interesting to see how it turns out.
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Post by Wooferhound on Jun 13, 2017 16:51:10 GMT -5
Got 3 coats of paint on it today
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Post by spiceman on Jun 13, 2017 19:20:52 GMT -5
The idea is cool. I think it will take forever. How thick is each coat? How many cars are painted every day? Is there a clear cot ?
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Post by 1dave on Jun 13, 2017 22:05:01 GMT -5
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rollingstone
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Post by rollingstone on Jun 14, 2017 2:04:23 GMT -5
Cool idea, but it might be faster to use liquid paint (thicker layers), perhaps heat-hardening layers between coats. Recycling depots usually have old cans of paint available at no charge.
-Don
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Post by Wooferhound on Jun 14, 2017 9:35:51 GMT -5
Yes, I thought about using paint that needs a brush, and I have plenty of paint in cans that I can try this with. Plus I know that house paint dries hard as a rock. But I would need a different brush for each color kept in baggies to keep them from drying out. May still try it depending on how this experiment goes.
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Post by MrP on Jun 14, 2017 10:31:20 GMT -5
Yes, I thought about using paint that needs a brush, and I have plenty of paint in cans that I can try this with. Plus I know that house paint dries hard as a rock. But I would need a different brush for each color kept in baggies to keep them from drying out. May still try it depending on how this experiment goes. Yes it does, 1 coat over a long period o time. I have been trying to make Fordite for about 3 years now. Spray paint may work the best but at a great cost. Even when the paint is very dry it is not cured. When using a paint brush with liquid paint it takes a loooooong time to dry. I even tried using an oven, paints cooks at low temp, and heat lamps which didn't work so great either. A lot of work and not near the quality as the real Fordite....................................MrP
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Post by jamesp on Jun 14, 2017 11:18:43 GMT -5
There is a 55 gallon drum recycling plant near me. They run the drums thru a furnace and heat the entire building with the old paint on the drums and the residual chemicals using a 5 million dollar catalytic converter. It must be 3 stories tall. 24 hours a day his line runs. The line is continuous and starts with a dirty drum and comes out repainted with epoxy paint. They change colors for different customers. They probably spit more paint out than any Detroit paint room. He said they shut down fairly occasionally to scrape the paint off the paint room robotics and tables.
So do not limit your search to fordite. Drumite may be an option. Other paint facilities.... He does yellow-green-red-orange-blue....all variations of colors. Lots of black. They come out of the long furnace on a conveyer with dry paint. Not sure if the accumulated paint is dry though.
The owner is just a down to earth farm boy personality in his 50's. Been buying plastic drums from him for years for growing bamboo in. He always shows me his newest additions to his factory. He said I can come help remove paint. hmmm... Gotta go visit him soon.
PS I give his wife tumbles and a few specimen corals. Kinda 'in like flint' with his wife since she loves rocks. Always welcomes our visits. Tumbles will get you places. Billy just looks at her and shakes his head lol.
"tumble bonding"
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Post by jamesp on Jun 14, 2017 11:25:35 GMT -5
Yes, I thought about using paint that needs a brush, and I have plenty of paint in cans that I can try this with. Plus I know that house paint dries hard as a rock. But I would need a different brush for each color kept in baggies to keep them from drying out. May still try it depending on how this experiment goes. Yes it does, 1 coat over a long period o time. I have been trying to make Fordite for about 3 years now. Spray paint may work the best but at a great cost. Even when the paint is very dry it is not cured. When using a paint brush with liquid paint it takes a loooooong time to dry. I even tried using an oven, paints cooks at low temp, and heat lamps which didn't work so great either. A lot of work and not near the quality as the real Fordite....................................MrP The drying process may be the key MrP
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Post by coloradocliff on Jun 14, 2017 11:40:35 GMT -5
Fordite is multiple layers of paint that are dried on top of each other and so thick that it can be tumbled. Today I decided to start making some, so I went out to the garage and got all the spraypaint that I have. I am using a 1/4 inch thick plastic surface to layer the paint onto. First I coated it with motor oil so it will release easily when I am finished. Will buy some more paint with brighter colors to add and make it more interesting. Here it is with the first coat on top of the oil layer plus the sucky selection of colors that I have available now. Interested to see how the Silver paint works out. I want to use a lot of Red and Blue. I have a large quantity of Black Brushed Bronze that will be used a lot. Thinking about making it about 3/4 inch thick before calling it finished. Should be able to get several coats a day on there and expect it to take about a month to make it. isn't the fordite baked on powder coat? Baked on back in the day but maybe not a powder coat. How about all the Maaco car painting shops around the country? They bake it on still and other automotive paint shops.
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