jet
starting to spend too much on rocks
Member since April 2017
Posts: 103
|
Post by jet on Jun 15, 2017 8:24:37 GMT -5
So, I've got the ring part done, except for a bit more sanding to smooth it all out. I wanted to do a hammered texture, but it isn't as easy as you think it would be to get that to look good. So now I'm sanding out all the dings. Also, I've tried soldering the bezel twice and it wasn't solid. I was frustrated and tired last night so I decided to put it down and resume after I got home from work today. I would like to add some stamped like designs around the edge of the backplate, similar to the ones on the pendant shown here: www.etsy.com/listing/115616114/kyanite-stone-sterling-necklace-handmade?utm_source=Pinterest&utm_medium=PageTools&utm_campaign=ShareI'm not quite sure how to do it though, and is it something I should do before adding the bezel or after? I realize I haven't posted the tools I have available yet.... I've got a Foredom with all the basic attachments, several plier sets, a handsaw, steel plate, rawhide hammer, planishing hammer, etc. (sorry, not enough go-go juice this morning) Here is what I've got so far:
|
|
jet
starting to spend too much on rocks
Member since April 2017
Posts: 103
|
Post by jet on Jun 15, 2017 9:08:38 GMT -5
Oh, also...is there a way to "glue" do-dads onto the back plate that you want to fuse? Like flowers, silver balls, etc. How do you put them onto the backplate and keep them from moving around while you are adding elements, etc, and getting ready to solder?
|
|
zekesman
Cave Dweller
Member since May 2016
Posts: 637
|
Post by zekesman on Jun 15, 2017 10:01:50 GMT -5
I can tell you how I do it. I solder the bezel on first. Then I solder on any embellishments. Then I solder on the shank. If you heat the piece up after putting each embellishment on with flux, the dried flux will hold it in place. P.S. if you leave your shank open at the top, it will sit nicer on your finger. Vic
|
|
jet
starting to spend too much on rocks
Member since April 2017
Posts: 103
|
Post by jet on Jun 15, 2017 10:14:20 GMT -5
I can tell you how I do it. I solder the bezel on first. Then I solder on any embellishments. Then I solder on the shank. If you heat the piece up after putting each embellishment on with flux, the dried flux will hold it in place. P.S. if you leave your shank open at the top, it will sit nicer on your finger. Vic Well, that sorts out my third ring then. Now I've just got to look up how to leave the shank open yet still ensure it is the size I need.
|
|
|
Post by rockjunquie on Jun 15, 2017 12:51:19 GMT -5
For small balls/beads, I put a very small divot in the backplate with a nail setter/punch. That keeps it from moving around. I found this out the hard way. LOL!
|
|
jet
starting to spend too much on rocks
Member since April 2017
Posts: 103
|
Post by jet on Jun 16, 2017 22:03:51 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by coloradocliff on Jun 16, 2017 22:57:01 GMT -5
For small balls/beads, I put a very small divot in the backplate with a nail setter/punch. That keeps it from moving around. I found this out the hard way. LOL! Tela, Since you are the presiding queen of wraps and silverworking... DO you ever work with gold? I notice that you never seem to do rings? Why? a market thing or a personal preference thing? Cheers. Cliff Uh no hon... not scheming.... much.. hehehehe
|
|
|
Post by rockjunquie on Jun 17, 2017 6:18:22 GMT -5
For small balls/beads, I put a very small divot in the backplate with a nail setter/punch. That keeps it from moving around. I found this out the hard way. LOL! Tela, Since you are the presiding queen of wraps and silverworking... DO you ever work with gold? I notice that you never seem to do rings? Why? a market thing or a personal preference thing? Cheers. Cliff Uh no hon... not scheming.... much.. hehehehe
I'll send you a pm. Don't want to hijack.
|
|
|
Post by rockjunquie on Jun 17, 2017 6:20:51 GMT -5
|
|
icatz
spending too much on rocks
Member since October 2015
Posts: 453
|
Post by icatz on Jun 17, 2017 8:45:00 GMT -5
What an adorable idea! You're coming along great.
|
|
jet
starting to spend too much on rocks
Member since April 2017
Posts: 103
|
Post by jet on Jun 17, 2017 9:18:25 GMT -5
What an adorable idea! You're coming along great. Thanks. I was going to do a simple one and just stamp the back plate a bit. Once I started dinking around though I wanted a little something to compensate for the plainer area of the turquoise.
|
|
zekesman
Cave Dweller
Member since May 2016
Posts: 637
|
Post by zekesman on Jun 17, 2017 9:34:32 GMT -5
What an adorable idea! You're coming along great. Thanks. I was going to do a simple one and just stamp the back plate a bit. Once I started dinking around though I wanted a little something to compensate for the plainer area of the turquoise. Two things. Did you make the flower? I have never thought of the ribbon under the stone. I have fought getting stones out LOL. hanks Vic
|
|
jet
starting to spend too much on rocks
Member since April 2017
Posts: 103
|
Post by jet on Jun 17, 2017 10:15:18 GMT -5
Thanks. I was going to do a simple one and just stamp the back plate a bit. Once I started dinking around though I wanted a little something to compensate for the plainer area of the turquoise. Two things. Did you make the flower? I have never thought of the ribbon under the stone. I have fought getting stones out LOL. hanks Vic I did make the flower. It was much harder than I thought it was going to be. The ribbon is actually dental floss! I figure it won't break, no matter how hard I yank on it.
|
|
|
Post by Bluesky78987 on Jun 17, 2017 10:46:22 GMT -5
That's coming along great! Love seeing the progress.
|
|
icatz
spending too much on rocks
Member since October 2015
Posts: 453
|
Post by icatz on Jun 18, 2017 7:51:09 GMT -5
Two things. Did you make the flower? I have never thought of the ribbon under the stone. I have fought getting stones out LOL. hanks Vic I did make the flower. It was much harder than I thought it was going to be. The ribbon is actually dental floss! I figure it won't break, no matter how hard I yank on it. Yeah, the dental floss to check bail size with stone is silversmith 101. The few times I've forgotten I've regretted it! How did you make the flower, if I may ask?
|
|
jet
starting to spend too much on rocks
Member since April 2017
Posts: 103
|
Post by jet on Jun 18, 2017 9:42:17 GMT -5
I did make the flower. It was much harder than I thought it was going to be. The ribbon is actually dental floss! I figure it won't break, no matter how hard I yank on it. Yeah, the dental floss to check bail size with stone is silversmith 101. The few times I've forgotten I've regretted it! How did you make the flower, if I may ask? I cut out two tiny figure 8s, then set each of them into a dapping block and used a punch with a tiny ball on the end of it in the very center of each figure 8. The curve of the impression in the dapping block curled the petals upwards and the punch thinned out the center. I then stacked the two pieces on top of each other in an X with flux painted between the pieces. Last I added a tiny silver ball into the center, more flux, and two pieces of solder on either side. I've actually removed the flower from the ring and filed that side down. I couldn't make it look right.
|
|
icatz
spending too much on rocks
Member since October 2015
Posts: 453
|
Post by icatz on Jun 19, 2017 19:08:18 GMT -5
Yeah, the dental floss to check bail size with stone is silversmith 101. The few times I've forgotten I've regretted it! How did you make the flower, if I may ask? I cut out two tiny figure 8s, then set each of them into a dapping block and used a punch with a tiny ball on the end of it in the very center of each figure 8. The curve of the impression in the dapping block curled the petals upwards and the punch thinned out the center. I then stacked the two pieces on top of each other in an X with flux painted between the pieces. Last I added a tiny silver ball into the center, more flux, and two pieces of solder on either side. I've actually removed the flower from the ring and filed that side down. I couldn't make it look right. Uh, I meant bezel, not bail. That's too bad you removed the flower. It was really cute. Maybe use it on a pendant?
|
|
jet
starting to spend too much on rocks
Member since April 2017
Posts: 103
|
Post by jet on Jun 19, 2017 22:11:38 GMT -5
I cut out two tiny figure 8s, then set each of them into a dapping block and used a punch with a tiny ball on the end of it in the very center of each figure 8. The curve of the impression in the dapping block curled the petals upwards and the punch thinned out the center. I then stacked the two pieces on top of each other in an X with flux painted between the pieces. Last I added a tiny silver ball into the center, more flux, and two pieces of solder on either side. I've actually removed the flower from the ring and filed that side down. I couldn't make it look right. Uh, I meant bezel, not bail. That's too bad you removed the flower. It was really cute. Maybe use it on a pendant? It just felt really off balance to me. Plus I wasn't as happy with the flower as I was with the rest of it. Maybe refine my technique there and then make a few more? I really want to do a cabochon surrounded by tiny flowers like that so we will see.
|
|
jet
starting to spend too much on rocks
Member since April 2017
Posts: 103
|
Post by jet on Jun 20, 2017 22:07:33 GMT -5
|
|
icatz
spending too much on rocks
Member since October 2015
Posts: 453
|
Post by icatz on Jun 21, 2017 7:46:25 GMT -5
Damn, that's a nice ring!!
|
|