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Post by coloradocliff on Jul 14, 2017 7:50:18 GMT -5
Maybe someone will get stoned enough to order 3000 pounds of bulk SiC. Figuring (Vegas)James will certainly come up with a concoction. Just don't try peyote, omg. If you were an indian.. back in college,,,your name might have been " he who walks with red eyes? Mine would have been EL Rey de Chongos. grin.. Bet you're going to be the one who will end up ordering the SiC if it goes. The AO coarse sounds even more interesting than the SiC
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Post by coloradocliff on Jul 14, 2017 7:56:54 GMT -5
Did someone say something about wanting 200 pounds of bulk SiC ? I DID... Does MrMike Wooferhound MAybe do a thread and ask. I bet lots of members could use one bag and its just about as easy to send out one bag to a single member as it is to send 5 bags to a member. Maybe Fish would want to take some and resell or you could hold on to a few and resale them at a snall profit to pay for your time and debt service after the initial dispersal. I could pay for it so you aren't out a lot of money up front then could pay me back as other members paid.
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Post by 1dave on Jul 14, 2017 8:19:21 GMT -5
I went back through this thread, but got distracted by the dope. How much does a pallet of this material weigh? Just wondering if I could haul it in the back of the pick-up, or if i'd need a trailer. Also wondering if I drove up there on a nice day with a pallet full of LFRBs, if I couldn't have a grand old time irritating the folks in the Lampus post office.... To help visualize this purchase take a gander at a pallet of Sakrete at Home Depot. I have purchased many a pallet from them over the years. Started at 80 pound bags, quickly reduced to 60 Pounders. Even that is more than I can handle. It comes 56 bags per pallet for a weight of 3,360 pounds. That would really sag the springs of a 1/2 ton pickup. Who would be able to handle a 3,000 pound bag? 50# sounds much more doable.
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Post by 1dave on Jul 14, 2017 8:28:49 GMT -5
BUT the pallet of Sakrete only costs $2.80/bag, $156.80/ pallet.
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Post by wigglinrocks on Jul 14, 2017 8:33:47 GMT -5
Couple times I opened my barrels and it looked like sakrete , the quick setting kind .
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Post by jamesp on Jul 14, 2017 9:56:25 GMT -5
No no zekester55. Way to heavy for most pick ups. Don't even go there ! Now a tandem 3500 pound axle trailer would handle it just fine.
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Post by notjustone on Jul 14, 2017 10:34:13 GMT -5
BUT the pallet of Sakrete only costs $2.80/bag, $156.80/ pallet. whats the current price now for sic 30? last I looked I thought it was 75 dollars about 1.50 a pound. plus shipping. . compare apples to apples at least. with the bulk sic at 45 cents per pound even if someone marked it up there is room for some markup. with course grinding being the majority of your grit usage. in my case about a cup of sic for 10 lbs of rock every week times 6 or 7 ( yep I'm rolling at least 60lbs in course) which gives me an output of about 10 lbs ready to move on weekly. now compare that 6 or 7 cups to the 2 tablespoons of ao-80. and 1 tablespoon ao polish. clearly the bulk of your grit usage is in coarse grind.
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Post by 1dave on Jul 14, 2017 10:44:43 GMT -5
Compare apples to bathing beauties? To pears with a little aging.
Yep! I would bet they make concrete out of much cheaper material and easier to find than SiC.
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Post by notjustone on Jul 14, 2017 10:54:56 GMT -5
Maybe someone will get stoned enough to order 3000 pounds of bulk SiC. Figuring (Vegas)James will certainly come up with a concoction. Just don't try peyote, omg. If you were an indian.. back in college,,,your name might have been " he who walks with red eyes? Mine would have been EL Rey de Chongos. grin.. Bet you're going to be the one who will end up ordering the SiC if it goes. The AO coarse sounds even more interesting than the SiC
cliff the ao-80 coarse is available in smaller quantities as sandblasting media. I believe even home depot and lowes carries it in buckets. keep in mind though your using tablespoons of ao compaired to cups of sic. that's why the bulk sic is so appealing to james its basically 90plus percent of your grit cost.
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Post by catmandewe on Jul 14, 2017 10:59:17 GMT -5
I could use about half of a pallet, I dont mind doing the shipping to the other members either.
Tony
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Post by notjustone on Jul 14, 2017 11:40:39 GMT -5
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Post by coloradocliff on Jul 14, 2017 14:23:51 GMT -5
If you were an indian.. back in college,,,your name might have been " he who walks with red eyes? Mine would have been EL Rey de Chongos. grin.. Bet you're going to be the one who will end up ordering the SiC if it goes. The AO coarse sounds even more interesting than the SiC
cliff the ao-80 coarse is available in smaller quantities as sandblasting media. I believe even home depot and lowes carries it in buckets. keep in mind though your using tablespoons of ao compaired to cups of sic. that's why the bulk sic is so appealing to james its basically 90plus percent of your grit cost. Thanks for increasing my understanding. I saw the 5 gallon buckets of Aluminum Oxide sand blasting material on line. What would you use if given the choice? AO coarse and let it smooth down and then a ninal polish or the hard grind of coarse SiC? You're in the business and know the material and processes better than any of us.
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Post by coloradocliff on Jul 14, 2017 15:43:21 GMT -5
No no zekester55 . Way to heavy for most pick ups. Don't even go there ! Now a tandem 3500 pound axle trailer would handle it just fine. My one ton dually flies a 2 ton camper at 110 mph but it aint there.
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Post by zekester55 on Jul 14, 2017 18:07:07 GMT -5
Points well made captbob. Sounds like that could be a long backbreaking weekend in Lampus re-packing.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 14, 2017 18:42:42 GMT -5
I could use about half of a pallet, I dont mind doing the shipping to the other members either. Tony The pallet deal works best if someone wanted a large quantity. I guess it would be best to offer you a some booty if you want to send it out to members. Not to be greedy, I would take 200 pounds. Or up to 400 pounds. Gladly pay LFRB shipping for 200 to 400 pounds. To help finance effort, how about $100 per LFRB ? $400 for 200 pounds $800 for 400 pounds I am certainly comfortable with it's performance. Actually prefer it's time release. Let me know Tony.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 21:54:15 GMT -5
I could use about half of a pallet, I dont mind doing the shipping to the other members either. Tony The pallet deal works best if someone wanted a large quantity. I guess it would be best to offer you a some booty if you want to send it out to members. Not to be greedy, I would take 200 pounds. Or up to 400 pounds. Gladly pay LFRB shipping for 200 to 400 pounds. To help finance effort, how about $100 per LFRB ? $400 for 200 pounds $800 for 400 pounds I am certainly comfortable with it's performance. Actually prefer it's time release. Let me know Tony. I just bought a LFRB of 36 grit from a dude in Seattle. $90 shipped.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 14, 2017 22:04:15 GMT -5
The pallet deal works best if someone wanted a large quantity. I guess it would be best to offer you a some booty if you want to send it out to members. Not to be greedy, I would take 200 pounds. Or up to 400 pounds. Gladly pay LFRB shipping for 200 to 400 pounds. To help finance effort, how about $100 per LFRB ? $400 for 200 pounds $800 for 400 pounds I am certainly comfortable with it's performance. Actually prefer it's time release. Let me know Tony. I just bought a LFRB of 36 grit from a dude in Seattle. $90 shipped. A dude or a company ? Is this a one time deal ? Link if it is a company please.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 22:07:39 GMT -5
I just bought a LFRB of 36 grit from a dude in Seattle Portland. $90 shipped. A dude or a company ? Is this a one time deal ? Link if it is a company please. It's a Craigslist ad. He is a fireman operating a grit and polish biz on the side. portland.craigslist.org/clk/mat/6151395181.html
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Post by MrMike on Jul 14, 2017 22:14:12 GMT -5
I bet it's Abrasive Armory, looks like 40lbs or $2.25/lb with shipping
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Post by notjustone on Jul 14, 2017 22:48:12 GMT -5
cliff the ao-80 coarse is available in smaller quantities as sandblasting media. I believe even home depot and lowes carries it in buckets. keep in mind though your using tablespoons of ao compaired to cups of sic. that's why the bulk sic is so appealing to james its basically 90plus percent of your grit cost. Thanks for increasing my understanding. I saw the 5 gallon buckets of Aluminum Oxide sand blasting material on line. What would you use if given the choice? AO coarse and let it smooth down and then a ninal polish or the hard grind of coarse SiC? You're in the business and know the material and processes better than any of us.
I'm not in the business but the coarse ao-80 will not do the rough grind like the sic will. its more like it eliminates the 2 or 3 grit steps between coarse and polish. when I first set up my homemade tumbler I was running 30ish sic. when they were nicely rounded I would send them to the smaller tumblers through the 60/90sic, 150/220sic, 500 sic, then ao polish for a week in each stage. now I let them roll in bulk sic till nicely rounded or pit free then to ao80 for four or five days in the vibe. then 1 or 2 days in polish. I bought 10 lbs ao-80 off ebay a while back. I probably still have 9 3/4 after running probably 75 lbs of bulk sic. the point I was trying to make is the ao-80 cost isn't a huge deal cause you really use so little. if you can find a price reduction on coarse grind its the most bang for your buck. but from the sounds of it jamesp is willing to pay almost as much for the convienence of not having to open the barrels as much
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