Intheswamp
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Post by Intheswamp on Sept 8, 2017 7:36:11 GMT -5
Here is a comparison of Andrew and Irma. Irma dwarfs. Intheswamp . Katrina hit east of New Orleans. New Orleans escaped high wind eye strike. The wind damage was just east in much lower populated Mississippi. This situation different. Large urban area getting direct eye strike. James, That's what I'm talking about....if Andrew did so much damage then what will Irma do? That jogging to the west isn't good...bulldozer through the middle of Florida, NE quadrant tearing up the east coast...west coast getting off "easy" (yeah, right) with the "weak" side. Current path predicted takes some pressure off of Key West...but it wouldn't take much to jog this monster a touch to the west and then we have a beast getting fed jet-fuel from the warmth of the GOM...but, this storm doesn't need jet-fuel...if Harvey was the 500-year flood, then Irma may be the 500-year hurricane. Bad wherever she goes...
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Post by rockjunquie on Sept 8, 2017 7:59:43 GMT -5
I was looking at the path that takes it inland just along the coast. What do you guys think about it taking up energy from all the inland wetlands in Florida? Maybe it won't be dying out so quickly.
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Post by rockjunquie on Sept 8, 2017 8:01:20 GMT -5
I notice there is one steady outlier that puts it over us. My luck, that's what will happen. I haven't so much as bought water. But, since I live in the hurricane zone, I'm otherwise prepared to stay through a strong 2.
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Post by Intheswamp on Sept 8, 2017 8:13:07 GMT -5
A side effect of the actions of whatever genius decided to close down the beaches is that ALL the hotels/motels on the beaches (LOTS of them, this is a tourist area) have to kick everyone out. So folks that evacuated the east coast and came over here or came up from down further south now have no where to stay. Everything north of inland from here is already booked solid. So now thousands (easily) are without shelter or anywhere to go within a reasonable distance. pure genius ... Yeah, pure genius...I would say, though, that neither coast is safe at this point. Without fuel or funds(?) many of these people are stranded. For a storm like this a peninsula like Florida is so very vulnerable. Reports are that Dothan, AL and Montgomery, AL hotels are all booked up...takes lots of hotel rooms for tens (hundreds?) of thousands of folks. Reports that Birmingham, AL hotels are filling up and even Nashville. Georgia appears to be pretty well getting filled, too. Saw an article from Tifton where their 1200 hotel rooms are filled up. People trying to flee the wrath of Irma and keep their families safe... This may very well be the most catastrophic hurricane that I will see in my lifetime. Wind damage and storm surge will, I'm afraid, be the hallmark of Irma though rainfall will not be insignificant. Katrina and Harvey were both monsters...Irma may be their big sister. I hope I'm wrong as the US economy/government is already strained with Harvey and with just trying to do regular business. This might be an interesting link....Cuban radar. There is tiny island called Ragged Island that is sitting under the eye right now....I wonder how it got it's name. I wonder if it'll even be there after the storm passes... www.met.inf.cu/asp/genesis.asp?TB0=PLANTILLAS&TB1=RADARES
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Post by grayfingers on Sept 8, 2017 8:18:05 GMT -5
jamesp, I imagine you are glad you do not have your Florida property to worry about. Sorry to hear that Georgia is in the possible track of the storm. I suppose our ol' pal Helen is headed inland...think she is in Orlando.
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Post by Intheswamp on Sept 8, 2017 8:27:58 GMT -5
I was looking at the path that takes it inland just along the coast. What do you guys think about it taking up energy from all the inland wetlands in Florida? Maybe it won't be dying out so quickly. As big as Irma is, if she goes up the middle of Florida she will probably be able to draw energy from both the Gulf waters and the waters of the Atlantic...both warm. I'm sure it could pick up some energy from the everglades, etc., as well...how much I haven't a clue. She's going to kick and scream the entire path most likely. Irma has been speeding along over the Atlantic, hopefully when she hits lands she won't stall and pull a Harvey. Turning northward I think Irma might pick up tracking speed, though...we don't won't this giant squatting on land. If she continues westward, the opposing westerly winds might slow her down...but this would most likely mean she's entered the gulf.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 8, 2017 8:39:19 GMT -5
At this minute they are leaning toward a west coast track captbob Intheswamp. One track headed for Alabama. High pressure over mainland messing with their predictions the whole time Irma has been in action. Yea Ed, no storm has compared to this one. A miracle this scenario has not yet occurred(bad Miami strike). Too late for much slow down. They are concerned about strengthening when she turns north and leaves Cuba into open hot water. Storm has increased in size overnight also. Hopefully strike may be a bit west of Miami. West tip of Florida much less populated. Economically, a Miami strike is bad day, long term for entire country. Aggravated with humanity building so much on beachfront. We are USA, we know better. Educated and aware. Gluttony and selfishness getting ready to pay the piper. This is what happens when building inspectors get paid off. Government corruption. Neglecting Mother Nature. Like insurance companies have enough money to pay for such damage. Doe Trump have a tower in Miami ? Well Mr. Trump, you could not have picked a worse spit of land to build your Towers
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Post by rockjunquie on Sept 8, 2017 8:40:10 GMT -5
Yes, this is looking awful! I think Andrew was one of the worse for Florida in terms of damage, this will dwarf it. captbob, are making any plans? Probably too late if you wanted to. Keep us up to date.... though I think it would take more than a hurricane to take you out.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 8, 2017 9:00:45 GMT -5
jamesp, I imagine you are glad you do not have your Florida property to worry about. Sorry to hear that Georgia is in the possible track of the storm. I suppose our ol' pal Helen is headed inland...think she is in Orlando. My place took a direct hit from Francis, 130 MPH. Came in from east. Broke a dozen 20 inch trees 100 feet into lake shore, wind then slowed due to thick forest. Lake waves were breaking 300-400 feet back into forest. Lake 8 miles across, wind accelerated over lake. Doubt Irma will come close to repeating that wind speed, as Francis was a direct hit. I built camp 600 feet from shore, no damage. Every dock on west shore of lake was removed and piled on point. Lake was 6 feet deeper on west bank, east side of lake was empty. Francis was Cat 2. A nothing storm compared to Irma. For some reason not worried about Mrs. Helen. That one from the land of typhoons.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 8, 2017 9:02:32 GMT -5
Yes, this is looking awful! I think Andrew was one of the worse for Florida in terms of damage, this will dwarf it. captbob, are making any plans? Probably too late if you wanted to. Keep us up to date.... though I think it would take more than a hurricane to take you out. Probably out installing storm shutters Tela. He said he bought on high ground. Good thing.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 8, 2017 9:26:32 GMT -5
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Post by captbob on Sept 8, 2017 10:01:49 GMT -5
Harvey dumped almost no rain on Zapata. Bet txrockhunter's Jacinto river will have a new load of agates. Zapata peaceful and traffic free. You ready ? Figure after Irma passes everyone would be headed this way while I head that way! Probably no gas anywhere though. Wonder if the flooding that remains in Texas would be a barrier. Not putting up shutters - yet. Keeping a weather eye on the horizon. Ready to spring into action in a quickness. Just went to grocery store for last minute items (read: more beer and lizard food) not crowded and had water stacked in the middle of the aisles. Traffic light here in town, wouldn't want to be on the interstate - TV news show it to be at a crawl.
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Post by meviva on Sept 8, 2017 10:37:22 GMT -5
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Post by captbob on Sept 8, 2017 10:50:15 GMT -5
All good here so far, thank you. We are on the "weak" side of the track. Donnie down in the Keys is a concern. Hurricanes Irma, Harvey are nature's 'wrath' for Trump victory, Jennifer Lawrence claimswww.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/09/08/jennifer-lawrence-says-hurricanes-may-be-natures-wrath-for-trump-victory.htmlOscar-winning actress Jennifer Lawrence suggested the devastating hurricanes in Texas and approaching Florida were signs of “Mother Nature’s rage and wrath” at America for electing Donald Trump and not believing in man-made climate change.
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How does anyone make it through life being this freakin' stupid?
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Post by jamesp on Sept 8, 2017 10:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by coloradocliff on Sept 8, 2017 11:09:32 GMT -5
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Post by captbob on Sept 8, 2017 11:45:01 GMT -5
Wife unit pestering about hurricane shutters which I do not believe are necessary.
*sigh* Hot as heck out there today!
Be 48 hours or more before one of us can say "I told you so."
May lose this one, as being wrong won't be any good ...
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Post by jamesp on Sept 8, 2017 11:45:32 GMT -5
I named my ocean boat "Land Ho". Long since sold.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 8, 2017 11:46:41 GMT -5
Put the shudders on Bob.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 8, 2017 11:47:29 GMT -5
Tampa looking at mandatory evacuation. Bob.
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