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Post by toiv0 on Jul 3, 2018 3:37:47 GMT -5
jamesp and I was talking about not being able to draw and I mentioned I had seen some threads on here where the smith drew out their piece then cut stones and and do the silverwork to match. So the question is how many of us do this. I don't, can't draw, have a stone and silver and it becomes something. I guess it shows sometimes. If you do draw it out first could you post the drawing and then the finished piece. I guess that is another question do you save your drawings? Thinking about it I can't even trace worth a hoot, just as Pat how crooked her spoon is..
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Post by Pat on Jul 3, 2018 8:23:25 GMT -5
toiv0 The spoon you made for me is much better than the ones I made! I have not given up on the spoons, but will be trying different styles and methods. Current plan is to make it in two parts --- bowl and handle. This gives me lots of options.
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Post by MsAli on Jul 3, 2018 10:11:59 GMT -5
I cant draw worth crap. I can see what I want to do, but it doesn't translate to paper.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jul 3, 2018 10:23:40 GMT -5
I will sometimes sketch out basic shapes and designs, especially if I am going to do cut out work on the metal. A lot of times I will use a stone I already cut and try to design something around that stone. It's mostly basic stuff, not anything really complicated because I don't have all the correct tools for that, but I get some stuff done.
I don't save sketches (they usually get destroyed during sawing or whatever). Actually, my jewelry sketches are probably about par with stick figure drawing!
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Post by drocknut on Jul 3, 2018 12:14:21 GMT -5
I don't draw well either. I try sometimes to draw out designs or doodle them, as I call it, but usually the end result isn't anywhere near what the doodle looks like so I just go with it. I call it letting the rock tell me what it wants. Guess I'd call it wrapping by the seat of my pants. I see a lot of jewelry artists who sketch their designs and wish I was one of those. As far as silversmithing, I do the same as my wrapping and let the stone dictate the design although I would much rather be able to sketch the design and have it come out at least similiar to what I sketched. I haven't done much silversmithing since I don't have the equipment so I guess that's a good thing.
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Post by fernwood on Jul 3, 2018 14:02:20 GMT -5
I used to draw designs for rings and bracelets on thin metal. Then place the selected settings/stones on them. Attache with double sided tape or poster goo. There is a recent thread here somewhere about using photos of the stones to utilize with computer software.
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Post by kk on Jul 3, 2018 17:48:34 GMT -5
Seems to be a common tendency about drawing here. Me to. I cant draw. What I do usually is, copy basic proportions of a subject with carbon paper onto the stone, and then cut from there onward freehand. That allows me to copy other peoples ideas, yet produce something very different in the end.
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goatgrinder
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Post by goatgrinder on Jul 3, 2018 18:50:51 GMT -5
I cannot draw for squat either. Having said that a drawing is merely a measured map to follow. Don't have to stick to the map though.
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stonemon
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Post by stonemon on Jul 3, 2018 20:53:51 GMT -5
The best I can do is draw a shape on a slab then cut it. When I fabricate, it is off the cuff and not planned. Maybe I will try to draw something....
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Post by Rockoonz on Jul 3, 2018 20:59:44 GMT -5
I draw poorly from scratch, but pretty good with straight edge, french curve and templates to help. I mostly use it to make templates for specific stones but sometimes to remind me of setting ideas I have. I have a project I'm working on right now devising a setting for a different kind of cab I started making. The first off, which I'm doing in copper, is just barely started. I'll probably get far enough in class Thursday to start a thread, better start taking pics.
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Post by manofglass on Jul 3, 2018 23:17:15 GMT -5
I don’t work with silver But if someone want to use the pattern Your free to do that If it is to small I can enlarge it for you
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zekesman
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Post by zekesman on Jul 4, 2018 13:52:22 GMT -5
I think I am somewhat like you toiv0, I grab a stone , some silver and see what comes out. I will sometimes add embellishments as needed. LOL
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barclay
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Post by barclay on Jul 4, 2018 14:28:40 GMT -5
I have recently started going beyond filling the setting with a stone. I am still firmly in the stick figure drawing camp I have no talent drawing so the stick figure gets me pointed in a direction (not necessarily the right one) and adjust and readjust the plan until I am happy with the result.
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Post by toiv0 on Jul 5, 2018 17:07:56 GMT -5
I don’t work with silver But if someone want to use the pattern Your free to do that If it is to small I can enlarge it for you It would not matter to me if I had a pattern or someone else drew it out. I would have to stay in the lines and that has never happened.
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metalsmith
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Post by metalsmith on Jul 6, 2018 1:06:32 GMT -5
I cant draw worth crap. I can see what I want to do, but it doesn't translate to paper. You're drawing doesn't have to be a Renoir nor a blue-print, it just needs to be able to contain the info you need. I can draw, at least I used to, but the drawings I produce for cutting stones are either technical on gemcad or a few scratched lines on a piece of paper splashed with water and half smeared with mud - but they will suffice and yes, the numbers often change!
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Post by opalpyrexia on Jul 10, 2018 14:05:16 GMT -5
Except for the most simple of rings — bezel + band — I always sketch designs. Sometimes I do about 5 to 20 or so rough sketches before deciding on one. Once I've got one that I like I may also refine it. If the design has bends and curves in the metal I often refine the shapes by bending and working trial pieces in copper before cutting up the silver.
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