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Post by 1dave on Aug 1, 2018 2:29:55 GMT -5
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Post by rockjunquie on Aug 1, 2018 5:12:59 GMT -5
Thanks 1dave! I don't know why I never do this myself. But, then again, you seem to know all the interesting places. I had no idea Mt. Rushmore was so isolated.
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Post by fernwood on Aug 1, 2018 5:33:22 GMT -5
I was there briefly (like 45 minutes) in the 1990's. One of those places that photos can never do justice to. At the time there were rock climbers ascending.
I like the surrounding area views.
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Post by fernwood on Aug 1, 2018 6:21:53 GMT -5
Here is my little piece of Mt Rushmore and the story that follows the stone. It was given to me several years ago by a good friend. She received it from a Tribal Elder with the following story which I modernized when transcribing from the tattered piece of paper. I have edited it to post here. Prior to an expedition by New York Attorney Charles Rushmore, Mt. Rushmore was known to the Lakota as Six Grandfathers. The Lakota name had been an important part of their oral tradition and their association with the land. The area was visited often by Medicine Men and Elders. Many ceremonies were held there. Begin transcription: Many years ago, a Medicine Man journeyed to ask the Six Grandfathers for guidance and special medicine to protect his tribe. He was granted permission to remove two pieces of stone from what is now Mount Rushmore. The Grandfathers told him that whoever had these stones would receive protection and guidance from them. The caretakers of the stones had to nurture the stones, as they were the medium through which the Grandfathers strength and guidance would be transmitted. A person is only to keep a stone for as long as they need the protection and guidance from the Grandfathers. They are then to pass it on to someone else along with this story. The recipient has to be part Native American, or respect and follow the beliefs of Native Culture. They must be ready to accept and understand the great Medicine held within this stone and the Grandfathers. End transcription My friend had this stone for 25 years. I have posted this stone here before, but never the full story. Below is a photo of my special link to the Grandfathers and one of what is now called Mount Rushmore in the 1920’s. 1 Mount-Rushmore-Before-It-Was-Carved
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Post by 1dave on Aug 1, 2018 9:00:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the story fernwood, AND the photos. I heard somewhere that the land was Cheyenne until the Lakotas captured it somewhere around 1776. Who did the Cheyenne take it from?
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Post by 1dave on Aug 1, 2018 9:35:31 GMT -5
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Post by fernwood on Aug 1, 2018 9:52:38 GMT -5
That question goes back too far for me. I am just aware of Lakota heritage on the land. The land where I grew up in NW WI was the site of the largest Native battle in WI, but because the area was so remote, there is little info about it. 4 tribes. The Lakota won the battle for hunting/gathering rights. The Ashinaabee had controlled the land for many years. The Ashinaabee are the remaining Tribe in the area. Sometime along the way, they won another battle. So many Tribal wars are undocumented, but very important in the big picture of things.
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Post by Fossilman on Aug 1, 2018 10:21:24 GMT -5
Great photos Dave... Did you go into the small caves below the monuments? Tammy and I did, we did some great photo shots from there with the mountain.. Thanks for sharing...
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Post by 1dave on Aug 1, 2018 11:26:23 GMT -5
That question goes back too far for me. I am just aware of Lakota heritage on the land. The land where I grew up in NW WI was the site of the largest Native battle in WI, but because the area was so remote, there is little info about it. 4 tribes. The Lakota won the battle for hunting/gathering rights. The Ashinaabee had controlled the land for many years. The Ashinaabee are the remaining Tribe in the area. Sometime along the way, they won another battle. So many Tribal wars are undocumented, but very important in the big picture of things. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hillsen.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dakota
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Post by 1dave on Aug 1, 2018 11:28:40 GMT -5
Great photos Dave... Did you go into the small caves below the monuments? Tammy and I did, we did some great photo shots from there with the mountain.. Thanks for sharing... Last night on Google Earth is as close as I have been. I'd love to see any photos etc. you can share.
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Post by aDave on Aug 1, 2018 13:32:43 GMT -5
Last night on Google Earth is as close as I have been. I'd love to see any photos etc. you can share. Dave, thanks for sharing. The wife and I went there last September for the first time, and the area is pretty amazing. We spent a short 5 days there, simply did sightseeing (no hounding), and we could have used a few more days. The closest town to the monument is Keystone, where the Rock Shed is located. Our first stop of the trip was Rushmore at night, but the Rock Shed was the next day. Flat out, the area is gorgeous. The Black Hills, Crazy Horse Monument, Badlands, Spearfish, Custer State Park, are all places to see IMHO. I'd truly like to get back there again for at least double the time we spent. Since you asked for some additional photos, here are some of Rushmore and the surrounding area. I could hijack this thread with others, but I won't. 1. This view is from the road out of Keystone. 2. 3.
4. 5. Along one of the scenic drives taken just outside the park. 6. Train that was taken out of Keystone to Hill City. 7. And, the nearby Rock Shed. 8. 9.
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Post by 1dave on Aug 1, 2018 13:58:46 GMT -5
Please do!
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Post by 1dave on Aug 2, 2018 21:04:04 GMT -5
Thanks aDave, I hadn't noticed what state The Rock Shed was in, much less what town. it is the first place you come to. Is that Shawn standing out front? What a fantastic location!
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