zarguy
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Post by zarguy on May 16, 2019 11:21:54 GMT -5
I'm looking to buy 50lbs of 46/70 grit. Kingsley North has it for $92.50 + about $18 for shipping. Are there any better deals out there? I'm in a small town. No abrasive dealers (that I know of) nearby, so it'll have to be shipped. Lynn
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Post by aDave on May 16, 2019 12:17:52 GMT -5
Last time I had some shipped to me, I went with Kingsley North after shopping around. I was able to get a LFRB of the stuff which cut down on shipping costs, and your price looks to be about what I paid. The LFRB option was not on the website - I was able to order it by calling directly. If you haven't done that yet you might give them a call if you're not seeing a LFRB on the website.
One caveat though...
When the grit was shipped, it was simply in a plastic bag in a LFRB with no extra reinforcing. As such, a corner of the box blew out which caused delays in me receiving it. Turns out, our local PO held it while waiting for a Haz Mat team to come inspect what was nothing more than grit.
So, if you do call them up to order, you may want to ask them to do some extra reinforcing of all corners to avoid a blowout.
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Post by joshuamcduffie on May 16, 2019 14:21:30 GMT -5
I'm interested in this as well. I just bought a new tumbler setup with two 2 gallon sized tumblers. I'm upgrading from a 1 pound tumbler, so I obviously need to find a better deal on bulk grit. Has anyone got any ideas? I was wondering if any of the industrial supply places might be a better option than shipping it?
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Post by grumpybill on May 16, 2019 15:06:47 GMT -5
...a corner of the box blew out which caused delays in me receiving it. Turns out, our local PO held it while waiting for a Haz Mat team to come inspect what was nothing more than grit... I recently had two packages held up at a USPS regional distribution center while the entire facility, including all the equipment and every package, was decontaminated...because a small mercury thermometer had broken.
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Post by oregon on May 16, 2019 15:24:01 GMT -5
I'm looking to buy 50lbs of 46/70 grit. Kingsley North has it for $92.50 + about $18 for shipping. Are there any better deals out there? I'm in a small town. No abrasive dealers (that I know of) nearby, so it'll have to be shipped. Lynn
The Abrasive Armory folks have always treated me well. Double bagged, reasonable price. Mostly sells through ebay these days. 40lbs I believe is what fits in the large flat rate?
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Post by Rockindad on May 16, 2019 15:54:51 GMT -5
Last time I had some shipped to me, I went with Kingsley North after shopping around. I was able to get a LFRB of the stuff which cut down on shipping costs, and your price looks to be about what I paid. The LFRB option was not on the website - I was able to order it by calling directly. If you haven't done that yet you might give them a call if you're not seeing a LFRB on the website. One caveat though... When the grit was shipped, it was simply in a plastic bag in a LFRB with no extra reinforcing. As such, a corner of the box blew out which caused delays in me receiving it. Turns out, our local PO held it while waiting for a Haz Mat team to come inspect what was nothing more than grit. So, if you do call them up to order, you may want to ask them to do some extra reinforcing of all corners to avoid a blowout.That's a great idea. A few orders back with The Rock Shed I was stocking up with a lot of grit and polish, it was all sent in LFRB's. Every single box on my porch was burst open, thankfully all of the bags stayed intact. I don't think it was TRS's fault, those boxes just take a beating, especially when dropped from waist high as some of them obviously were. Al
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Post by Fossilman on May 16, 2019 17:10:01 GMT -5
My youngest son worked for a postal service and loaded trks at night - He told me about the conveyor tables and belts, they would sort the boxes out to different areas, than drop to a different belt system. Sometimes a foot or so landing, than to another conveyor and another!!! They take a beating even before the transportation begins!! Pack a tight box and a lot of tape - A LOT!!
There is a place just outside Vancouver, Washington that sells grit too, by the bucket loads... Can't remember the name, they do a lot of sandblasting and buy by the tons.. I will ask around...
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zarguy
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Post by zarguy on May 16, 2019 17:17:53 GMT -5
I used to work at UPS loading delivery trucks. Fragile? This side up? Never heard of 'em. Lynn
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Post by rockpickerforever on May 16, 2019 18:21:10 GMT -5
The first time I ordered 50# of grit from Kingsley North, I had called them. The woman I spoke with (forget her name) offered shipping to me in an LFRB. Saved me a helluva lot of money, and I don't recall that there were any issues with box breakage or leakage that time.
I ordered another 50# from their website several months ago. First, let me say that unless you want to pay a huge amount for shipping, don't order online - Call them! I thought that since I had ordered the same thing previously, and they shipped it in an LFRB, that they would do it again. Wrong! My mistake, never assume.
So my debit card gets dinged for this huge shipping amount, so naturally I call them. I mentioned to the guy (this time), that their site still does not have the option for LFRB. Supposedly, the website will be corrected at some time. My order had not been shipped yet, he said they would send via USPS LFRB, and credit my card for the overcharge, which they did several days later. Yay!
Secondly, this box did arrive broken open, with a hole in the bag and leaking grit. My guess from seeing the condition of the box is that it had been speared with a forklift. Not the fault of Kingsley North. My letter carrier delivered it to me in one of the USPS corragated plastic boxes so it wouldn't spill any more. I'm sure the small amount of 30-36 grit lost was much less than the difference of shipping cost.
Bottom line, call them to place your order, and ask for flat rate shipping. It probably wouldn't hurt to ask them to reinforce the box a bit, but it could still get damaged by overzealous USPS employees.
I would purchase from them again, I am a happy camper!
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Post by aDave on May 16, 2019 18:29:06 GMT -5
There is a place just outside Vancouver, Washington that sells grit too, by the bucket loads... Can't remember the name, they do a lot of sandblasting and buy by the tons.. I will ask around... Mike, that might be Abrasive Armory as noted in the Ebay link above. Their stuff ships out of Vancouver. oregon, thanks for the reminder about them. And, you're right about how they bag. I've bought some grit from them in the past and it was double-bagged with VERY heavy duty plastic. Their 40# lot of 46/70 is nicely priced, so I may be giving them another shot.
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jim931
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Post by jim931 on May 23, 2019 20:38:23 GMT -5
What are the benefits to using a grit as low as 46/70. I think I've been starting with 60/90. I'm still new to the game, so any pros and cons would be great.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on May 23, 2019 20:48:36 GMT -5
What are the benefits to using a grit as low as 46/70. I think I've been starting with 60/90. I'm still new to the game, so any pros and cons would be great. The 46/70 will cut faster. The catch is that the stage one grit is kind of matched to the size and speed of the tumbler. A 3 pound barrel does not have enough rise and fall to break down the 46/70 so 60/90 is usually used. 46/70 works great in 6 pound through 15 pound barrels and for barrels larger then that 36 grit can even be used. Chuck
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Post by aDave on May 23, 2019 21:15:51 GMT -5
What are the benefits to using a grit as low as 46/70. I think I've been starting with 60/90. I'm still new to the game, so any pros and cons would be great. The 46/70 will cut faster. The catch is that the stage one grit is kind of matched to the size and speed of the tumbler. A 3 pound barrel does not have enough rise and fall to break down the 46/70 so 60/90 is usually used. 46/70 works great in 6 pound through 15 pound barrels and for barrels larger then that 30 grit can even be used. Chuck Chuck is right, but I will add that 46/70 can work in a barrel such as used in a Lortone 45C. It's a 4 pound barrel on a Lortone frame. That size seems to be the cutoff based upon my experience. Yes, the 6 lb barrel does much better, but the 4 lb barrel can break down the 46/70 as well. Until I got 6 pound barrels, I was running 46/70 in a 4 lb barrel routinely. I was originally running 60/90, but I got a better grind from 46/70 IMHO.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on May 23, 2019 21:18:16 GMT -5
The 46/70 will cut faster. The catch is that the stage one grit is kind of matched to the size and speed of the tumbler. A 3 pound barrel does not have enough rise and fall to break down the 46/70 so 60/90 is usually used. 46/70 works great in 6 pound through 15 pound barrels and for barrels larger then that 30 grit can even be used. Chuck Chuck is right, but I will add that 46/70 can work in a barrel such as used in a Lortone 45C. It's a 4 pound barrel on a Lortone frame. That size seems to be the cutoff based upon my experience. Yes, the 6 lb barrel does much better, but the 4 lb barrel can break down the 46/70 as well. Until I got 6 pound barrels, I was running 46/70 in a 4 lb barrel routinely. I was originally running 60/90, but I got a better grind from 46/70 IMHO. Good to know. I have at least 20 Lortone barrels but somehow I have never owned the 4.5 pound size. That is one that I have zero experience with. Chuck
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jim931
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Post by jim931 on May 23, 2019 21:21:55 GMT -5
What are the benefits to using a grit as low as 46/70. I think I've been starting with 60/90. I'm still new to the game, so any pros and cons would be great. The 46/70 will cut faster. The catch is that the stage one grit is kind of matched to the size and speed of the tumbler. A 3 pound barrel does not have enough rise and fall to break down the 46/70 so 60/90 is usually used. 46/70 works great in 6 pound through 15 pound barrels and for barrels larger then that 30 grit can even be used. Chuck Thank you! Im working with the Thumler MP-1 so its only a 2 pound barrel. Im definitely ready to upgrade. So thank you very much for the info!!!
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quartz
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Post by quartz on May 23, 2019 22:17:39 GMT -5
I've been getting my grit from Kleen-Blast in Portland, OR for several years. They have facilities along the west coast. The prices quoted by them over the phone has always been a little less than on the website. I've always found the best deals on grit at industrial supply places; my experience, not to say someone somewhere won't beat them.
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Post by aDave on May 23, 2019 22:34:27 GMT -5
Good to know. I have at least 20 Lortone barrels but somehow I have never owned the 4.5 pound size. That is one that I have zero experience with. Chuck I'm not surprised. It seems to be the odd size in the overall scheme of things. 3 and 6 pound barrels are offered in a twin setup which probably make more sense for someone venturing into the hobby. But, knowing what I know now, I'd stay away from the 3-pound barrels simply due to inefficiency. The only reason I ended up with a 45C was because it was a gift from my parents to my son. It's what we started with, but after looking for just a bit more, I moved to a QT66. The six pound barrels do far better, as you noted, with something like 46/70.
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Post by rockbiter on Dec 7, 2019 23:49:47 GMT -5
This is a bit cheaper deal per pound on ebay, factoring in shipping: SIC 46-60 50 lbsC'mon Washington Mills, you know you want to open a processing plant in Idaho!
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Post by jamesp on Dec 8, 2019 6:16:22 GMT -5
The Carbolon MA metallurgical grade is about 40% by volume 30 grit and smaller. Washington Mills needs to sell a finer screened version of say 30 or 46 and smaller for the rock tumbling community.
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Post by 1dave on Dec 8, 2019 10:01:03 GMT -5
I'm looking to buy 50lbs of 46/70 grit. Kingsley North has it for $92.50 + about $18 for shipping. Are there any better deals out there? I'm in a small town. No abrasive dealers (that I know of) nearby, so it'll have to be shipped. Lynn Lynn, Sorry I didn't see this sooner. Talk to the local places that do sand blasting. Cedar Memorials across the street from the cemetery ( 562 N Main St) does quite a bit. I had them make a 2' X 6' granite slab for my great grandfathers family plot when I discovered they had never had a marker. He was born in Lanark Scotland, worked as a coal miner there, moved to the coal mines in Almy Utah/Wyoming. When his uncle was killed in a blast went to work for "Brigham's Railroad" building track to Delta Utah and beyond. They sandblasted the names and a picture of a locomotive for me.
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