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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 16, 2017 16:10:45 GMT -5
Hello all, Researching for a trip to Florida and Rucks pit. Would love to collect agatized coral. JamesP you mentioned "North of Zephyr Hills. Close to this creek which crosses under Handcart Road" I see on google maps that their are several. Will any of these have corals or only certain ones? Are there other places that I can walk to? Not afraid of mud or work. Thank you Withlacoochee is your best bet but like jamesp said gotta watch the water levels. When ya comin? There are times when it is low that you can walk and collect the coral from the Withlacoochee.
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 16, 2017 15:57:59 GMT -5
Hello all, Researching for a trip to Florida and Rucks pit. Would love to collect agatized coral. JamesP you mentioned "North of Zephyr Hills. Close to this creek which crosses under Handcart Road" I see on google maps that their are several. Will any of these have corals or only certain ones? Are there other places that I can walk to? Not afraid of mud or work. Thank you Withlacoochee is your best bet but like jamesp said gotta watch the water levels. When ya comin? There are times when it is low that you can walk and collect the coral from the Withlacoochee.
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 9, 2017 15:34:36 GMT -5
I don't have really cool tree pics like the others, my tree is just simply "menage a tree"
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 9, 2017 13:48:13 GMT -5
Ok James and rockjunquie here is a pic of something I found a bunch of at Honeymoon Island. It is actually pretty and has some druzy pockets (or whatever it's called) Petrified death plate. = petrified algae in Florida lingo. It is simply a petrified slab of ocean muck. Common with coral. Can be beautiful. Probably full of little critters and snails/shells. Really? ? That's all well crap and I lugged a bunch back
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 9, 2017 13:14:01 GMT -5
So jamesp I heard you said Santa Fe, where on earth on that river, can't be the parts I've paddled a million times, must be the upper. Also, I've paddled the withlacoochee from Madison Blue to the confluence where it meets Suwannee. I looked and looked, saw no coral and it was super low when I went, actually had to walk the big shoals at the end because it was too low to paddle. Erg, I was near Alachua ? Does that sound right ? Close to I-75. Water colder than.... I did not find any coral that was colorful or hollow so I did not return. Now the place I find coral at the 31 bridge is upstream 3-4 miles and the best is at a big shoal 2 miles down stream. And going past 3 miles down stream the coral was no good. So I would suggest down stream at about 1.5 to 2.5 miles guessing. It is a hale and hearty paddle to the downstream spot. Let me see if I can give you a GE map. So jamesp here I go again asking questions. Where do you find any laws about collecting coral on the Suwannee? I never found any and I guess TG I've never been stopped especially when I had that 97lb'r plus probably another 100 lbs in my yak on my very first collecting trip.
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 9, 2017 12:46:02 GMT -5
Same stuff Tela. Guessing different chemistry but both similar. The hollow corals in Valdosta and Tampa are what geologists call a pseudomorph. The biologists have a another name for the appendage on the tree lol. I went to Honeymoon Island ISO of coral, found some regular white (as I call it) and then some weird stuff which I'm guessing may be the agate??? I will take a pic and post when I'm home unless I can find one on my facebook. Ok James and rockjunquie here is a pic of something I found a bunch of at Honeymoon Island. It is actually pretty and has some druzy pockets (or whatever it's called)
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 9, 2017 12:15:00 GMT -5
If it's that big newer bridge on the fl/ga line I've been down stream about a mile or so, lots and lots of the dense white coral, then upstream maybe a mile found some nice coral. I can do down stream probably 3 miles and back but not when it gets dark so early. Is that the spot, the fl/ga line bridge? Down where those 5 red pins are, from the 31 bridge. I believe they call it the GaFl bridge and it was recently re-done to like 4 lanes or rebuilt. Better coral all around is at the bridge you went to last weekend. Hard to beat that spot. That is why I use my little boat, not enough hours in the day to paddle those long runs. And carry 600 pounds of coral. Boat goes about 8 MPH lol, slow but 4 miles in 30 minutes ain't bad. Yeah, I want to go back where I went last weekend but this time I intend on getting an earlier start. It is such a peaceful run, not a soul in site soooo, depending on the weather (which I haven't checked yet) I'll be there again sometime this weekend.
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 9, 2017 11:53:05 GMT -5
Erg, I was near Alachua ? Does that sound right ? Close to I-75. Water colder than.... I did not find any coral that was colorful or hollow so I did not return. Now the place I find coral at the 31 bridge is upstream 3-4 miles and the best is at a big shoal 2 miles down stream. And going past 3 miles down stream the coral was no good. So I would suggest down stream at about 1.5 to 2.5 miles guessing. It is a hale and hearty paddle to the downstream spot. Let me see if I can give you a GE map. Oops more like 4 miles downstream where all those red pins are. The first of the 5 pins down there has real nice coral. LONG haul for a day kayak trip. Yeah, I won't make that in a day, not this time of year anyways. I think I could probably handle going back upstream 4 miles because it sure as heck isn't flowing much right now.
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 9, 2017 11:51:22 GMT -5
So jamesp I heard you said Santa Fe, where on earth on that river, can't be the parts I've paddled a million times, must be the upper. Also, I've paddled the withlacoochee from Madison Blue to the confluence where it meets Suwannee. I looked and looked, saw no coral and it was super low when I went, actually had to walk the big shoals at the end because it was too low to paddle. Erg, I was near Alachua ? Does that sound right ? Close to I-75. Water colder than.... I did not find any coral that was colorful or hollow so I did not return. Now the place I find coral at the 31 bridge is upstream 3-4 miles and the best is at a big shoal 2 miles down stream. And going past 3 miles down stream the coral was no good. So I would suggest down stream at about 1.5 to 2.5 miles guessing. It is a hale and hearty paddle to the downstream spot. Let me see if I can give you a GE map. If it's that big newer bridge on the fl/ga line I've been down stream about a mile or so, lots and lots of the dense white coral, then upstream maybe a mile found some nice coral. I can do down stream probably 3 miles and back but not when it gets dark so early. Is that the spot, the fl/ga line bridge?
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 9, 2017 11:22:04 GMT -5
Trees don't need to concern with ED. Watch out Liz, your thread may slowly become the erection thread. Drifting threads and hijacked threads is the best part of this forum. This thread is at 5 pages and may be a record for not drifting lol. Where's that coral thread ? Hey, better than those 3 word sentences on FB. Liz, Ballast Point @ Tampa Bay was attacked back 20 to 30 years ago. It was covered w/fine hollow corals. It got so bad the government stopped collecting Tampa Bay Coral/agate. On Honeymoon too. Florida also got strict about collecting in the Suwannee and Santa Fe. Georgia just don't give a damn. I put in on Georgia bridge HWY 31 and take boat downstream on Withla into Florida where the Florida wardens rarely go and collect in Florida. One of my coral hunting buddies got cited(warning) collecting in Santa Fe and cannot afford the next level of punishment. Had to quit. So don't get caught in Florida.... Yes my coral thread has taken the off ramp lol but its fine with me
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 9, 2017 11:20:09 GMT -5
Trees don't need to concern with ED. Watch out Liz, your thread may slowly become the erection thread. Drifting threads and hijacked threads is the best part of this forum. This thread is at 5 pages and may be a record for not drifting lol. Where's that coral thread ? Hey, better than those 3 word sentences on FB. Liz, Ballast Point @ Tampa Bay was attacked back 20 to 30 years ago. It was covered w/fine hollow corals. It got so bad the government stopped collecting Tampa Bay Coral/agate. On Honeymoon too. Florida also got strict about collecting in the Suwannee and Santa Fe. Georgia just don't give a damn. I put in on Georgia bridge HWY 31 and take boat downstream on Withla into Florida where the Florida wardens rarely go and collect in Florida. One of my coral hunting buddies got cited(warning) collecting in Santa Fe and cannot afford the next level of punishment. Had to quit. So don't get caught in Florida.... So jamesp I heard you said Santa Fe, where on earth on that river, can't be the parts I've paddled a million times, must be the upper. Also, I've paddled the withlacoochee from Madison Blue to the confluence where it meets Suwannee. I looked and looked, saw no coral and it was super low when I went, actually had to walk the big shoals at the end because it was too low to paddle.
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 9, 2017 9:57:24 GMT -5
OK, since we're all here talking about coral.... Can someone please tell me what is the difference between your pet coral and Tampa Bay agate? Isn't the agate actually coral? Same stuff Tela. Guessing different chemistry but both similar. The hollow corals in Valdosta and Tampa are what geologists call a pseudomorph. The biologists have a another name for the appendage on the tree lol. I went to Honeymoon Island ISO of coral, found some regular white (as I call it) and then some weird stuff which I'm guessing may be the agate??? I will take a pic and post when I'm home unless I can find one on my facebook.
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 9, 2017 9:54:07 GMT -5
Ok, not coral, but a tree pic I took at a park near Jacksonville, Fl. OMG ya'll are funny, now I need to go looking around for tree pics I guess.
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 9, 2017 8:13:49 GMT -5
A local park.... I've been watching this couple for years. The man in the front has his back to the easy woman behind him. He grows more excited every year.
You must have been standing on your head when you saw it. lol so you decided to turn the pic upside down, ya'll are a mess
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 8, 2017 15:08:45 GMT -5
Uh-oh, you're starting to sound like GrandpaPatrick. You should see some of those trees. Bad example in that photo. Ya got super model skinny legs, fat bottom girls, joggers, short, tall, long, etc. like I said it gets kinda quiet down there. Grandpa Patrick my man. I showed one to my wife and said it looked like her - did not go over so good baseball sized coral hurling past here you go jamesp this one's on the with....what's it look like to you. Attachments:
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 8, 2017 12:58:23 GMT -5
You did a great job finding good stuff. Don't be surprised if jamesp asks for tips on finding the best. ...............................MrP
PS Sorry James had to take the shot!
LOL. I am concerned about going on an expedition with Liz. I know for a fact I will have to eat my Wheaties to keep up with her Michael. She is probably about like me, I do push to find the good stuff. Looking at her flickr photos I would say she don't need much help. Well done Liz. Lots of fine corals, you obviously have an eye for finding them. Guessing that spot was a great score for you. Lol we need a big coral expedition and "others of our kind" come along. I hate going along, well ok sometimes I do enjoy the peace and quiet. All I can say is I'm not a whiner or quitter even if I fall and break something.
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 8, 2017 11:18:20 GMT -5
Ok captbob, Jim and everyone else. Here is a link to about 60 pictures I took last night because I hate to disappoint. Trying to tag....lets see captbob you had better look, I'd hate for you to go through withdrawals. I just started using flickr so forgive me if I mess up, here is the link. www.flickr.com/photos/152193414@N03/?If that doesn't work then I'm sure one of you will let me know in large font size lolAnd most of it is from With, not all from this past Sunday, I threw in a couple from the Suwannee just for fun. Unfortunately most can fit in the palm of my hand however such beautiful colors and character.You did a great job finding good stuff. Don't be surprised if jamesp asks for tips on finding the best. ...............................MrP
PS Sorry James had to take the shot!
Thanks MrP, Jim is the one that has been schooling me on more places to go. I am so addicted I just don't have much knowledge.
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 8, 2017 10:08:36 GMT -5
Now I would have been all over that trip! Yes, that is what she said. You know men are babies. She thought it was the adventure of a lifetime. Not jamesp. Was half dead for the next day's trip lol. I was anyway. Never underestimate a lady's endurance. Lesson learned. Lol men are babies and we have babies, that is why we are so tough....pregnancy and childbirth, etc. I don't underestimate any men either however there are a few of us women out there that are full of adventure and stamina!
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 8, 2017 9:30:10 GMT -5
So did you go almost to the Florida line the first day, then all the way back upstream??? You did 'take one for the team' with that trip. Do you still think an overnighter through trip is worthwhile? Or did this show otherwise? I did go almost to Florida. You know the water level effects the trip so much. In an attempt to go so far down I did not sample coral veins much. Passed dozens. Found a spot at bottom of trip that had white clay w/hollows, so I collected there. I believe this shoal known as 'rapids #6' is going to kill a Jon boat passage at low water levels. I have come to it from bridge 31 and it stopped me dead in tracks. Yes, OK for a kayak/canoe portage. Doubt a mud boat or Go-Devil boat can be passed or portaged passed it. This one rapid kinda kills a Jon boat over nighter from 376 to 31 I believe. The blue line left to right is GA/FL state line. You can find this on GE. GE photo is there. Me and my neighbor attempted an overnighter on kayaks back in 2006. We got to rapid #6 and found the river totally impassible due to 2 foot high water hyacinth. Had to drag kayaks several miles thru the forest. Got back to truck at 4AM. She(did marathons) thought it was an adventure. Not me. Just saying, you never know if someone sprigged water hyacinth in the river. Never saw that one coming. Now I would have been all over that trip!
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Post by flmermaid744 on Nov 8, 2017 9:09:25 GMT -5
Ok captbob, Jim and everyone else. Here is a link to about 60 pictures I took last night because I hate to disappoint. I just started using flickr so forgive me if I mess up, here is the link. www.flickr.com/photos/152193414@N03/?If that doesn't work then I'm sure one of you will let me know in large font size lolAnd most of it is from With, not all from this past Sunday, I threw in a couple from the Suwannee just for fun. Unfortunately most can fit in the palm of my hand however such beautiful colors and character.
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