neural
starting to spend too much on rocks
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Post by neural on Sept 25, 2022 21:10:02 GMT -5
Anyone been following Artificial Intelligence and it's uses in art? I fed an AI a picture of an opal I cut (just an opal on a piece of paper with a measurement line). I asked the AI to create: "24k gold pendant with bezel set opal" This was one of the results: Clearly the AI needs to practice it's burnishing, but.. what is great about it to me is that I can just have it generate idea after idea until one inspires me, and then I can work with it from there.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Sept 25, 2022 21:18:31 GMT -5
That's pretty cool! What AI did you use? BTW, you do know that 24k gold is way too soft to make setting out of, don't you?
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neural
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Post by neural on Sept 26, 2022 0:03:25 GMT -5
That's pretty cool! What AI did you use? BTW, you do know that 24k gold is way too soft to make setting out of, don't you? I'm using Stable Diffusion for the AI. And yes, I know 24k gold is too soft, but I'm also trying to figure out how to get the point across to the AI. For example, I tried having it come up with a rose that has gold petals, but it doesn't quite get the idea that I want gold as in the metal, not gold as in a color.
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Post by Pat on Sept 26, 2022 0:30:24 GMT -5
WOW!! Just wowwwwe! Thanks.
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Post by jasoninsd on Sept 26, 2022 7:15:11 GMT -5
Creepy! (But cool!)
I've been watching too many shows about AI lately (Westworld...Exmachina)...and it's NEVER a good outcome for humans when AI gets involved! LOL
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neural
starting to spend too much on rocks
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Post by neural on Sept 26, 2022 9:18:11 GMT -5
Creepy! (But cool!) I've been watching too many shows about AI lately (Westworld...Exmachina)...and it's NEVER a good outcome for humans when AI gets involved! LOL The problem with AI is it is Artificial. Hence the "A" in "AI". Any AI no matter how extensive is only going to develop a world view based on the information it is given. It might be measurably more intelligent than its creators on a very large scale, but it will not develop a sense of morality, rights, or feelings that are not based on what humans have told it. In this way it is much like a young child. While there are exceptions, most children have the potential to grow up liking geology.... if they are exposed to geology in a way that is exciting or interesting for them. Why don't all children love rocks? Because some children are raised by parents who enjoy raising horses, or playing music, or other things. The Stable Diffusion AI, while not an easy thing to create, is still at the level of what I would call a "gimmick" also. It is pretty clear, after staying up until midnight last night just messing around with it, that the process it uses to create an image goes something like this: 1: scan the input for the keywords (example: blue exotic sports car with chrome rims and a spoiler ) 2: do a search on the internet for images using those key words 3: filter out images that don't match as well (this is somewhat ambiguous as it's likely weighted based on the key words, where "blue" and "car" are "heavier", so an image that doesn't have a lot of blue in it would be rejected) 4: build the new image by piecing together the hundred or so sample images 1 result: It's actually just a high end proces of creating a collage from various images. This explains, for example, why it has such a hard time with hands. Hands are ... well, if you're easily disturbed, don't go looking for pictures of people done by AI. The faces are getting better, but the hands.. just... monstrosities. To be fair, hands are also one of the most difficult things for artists to master as well, so it's only fair that it's that way for AI, but the reality is that the current batch of AI software is just mashing other images together. Given, they are often something new, or they incorporate elements that the viewer might not have thought of. For example: 24k gold pendant with hammered bezel set opal This used an opal as a reference image, but for me this was the exact result I wanted. Not because it's perfect, but because the AI designed something I would not have thought of. Specifically, I didn't ask for an opal inlay in the bale. It will be interesting to see where this leads. My talent has always been more on iteration of existing design, then outright design creation.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Sept 26, 2022 9:50:38 GMT -5
That's pretty cool! What AI did you use? BTW, you do know that 24k gold is way too soft to make setting out of, don't you? I'm using Stable Diffusion for the AI. And yes, I know 24k gold is too soft, but I'm also trying to figure out how to get the point across to the AI. For example, I tried having it come up with a rose that has gold petals, but it doesn't quite get the idea that I want gold as in the metal, not gold as in a color. Is there any way to teach it that gold is a material, not just a color? Maybe use Au instead of gold? Of course, you may have to upload the whole Periodic Table so it can learn.
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pebblesky
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Placed another order in rockshed. Happy 2024 everyone!
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Post by pebblesky on Sept 26, 2022 11:06:44 GMT -5
Very interesting topic! I tried a plume agate cabochon, silver wire wrapped. Apparently AI doesn't yet understand what "plume agate" is That's fine. I didn't know that a month ago. Let's post more plume agate pictures to educate AI
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pebblesky
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Placed another order in rockshed. Happy 2024 everyone!
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Post by pebblesky on Sept 26, 2022 11:09:02 GMT -5
But, I am quite entertained by some of the wire wrapping results it rendered.
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neural
starting to spend too much on rocks
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Post by neural on Sept 26, 2022 11:58:55 GMT -5
Very interesting topic! I tried a plume agate cabochon, silver wire wrapped. Apparently AI doesn't yet understand what "plume agate" is That's fine. I didn't know that a month ago. Let's post more plume agate pictures to educate AI I'm still running some tests. It seems that with the img2Img (image to image) feature, that if you wanted to do something like plume agate in a gold bezel with a V shaped bale, you can get the best results via taking pictures of examples off the web, and then using something like MS Paint, GIMP, or Photoshop to mash them together into a mockup of what you would like the general result to be, then use that is the image origin.
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neural
starting to spend too much on rocks
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Post by neural on Sept 26, 2022 13:05:54 GMT -5
Ok, last one for now. This is a series of 36 pendants. No reference/origin image used. These are all first iteration, but there are a few of them I am anxious to use as reference/origins to see where it goes. What's great is that I can set it up to do numerous images (which on my computer take around 2minutes each) and then go outside and do yard work etc. while the AI is creating things to inspire me.
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Post by parfive on Sept 29, 2022 0:53:28 GMT -5
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