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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 28, 2022 9:33:18 GMT -5
Here's some more material that came via aDave . I did some research on the Spider Web Jasper. There are several materials that use Spider Web Jasper (Spiderweb Jasper) as a trade name. This particular material was originally known as Pegratite...but became known as SWJ somewhere along the way. EDIT - I believe the 3rd picture down is actually Lavic Jasper...not Spiderman/Spiderwoman Jasper like I originally posted. That takes us to the Reyes Agate! The deposit (a very narrow seam) is located near the famous Cathedral agate mines in Chihuahua, Mexico. The pictures are of slabs from three different small chunks. I seriously can't wait to make some cabs from this material!       |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Nov 28, 2022 9:43:00 GMT -5
We bought some of that Spiderweb Jasper years ago. The stuff we got was so crumbly it's still sitting in a box in the saw shop somewhere. Your slab look like it actually may be cuttable. The Reyes Agate is beautiful! Can't wait to see the cabs from it.  |
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Post by gemfeller on Nov 28, 2022 16:04:08 GMT -5
Trade names are the bane of the hobby IMO. I thought it was funny that Spiderman Jasper (which emerged about the same time as the eponymous movie series) had to be renamed "Spiderwoman" to keep pace with Woke culture. This material from Idaho bore the original "Spiderman" name. Don't know what the type you refer to looks like.  |
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Post by khara on Nov 28, 2022 18:01:23 GMT -5
gemfeller I also have a chunk of rough that looks like yours. Bought it years ago, maybe a decade, from an Idaho seller. Pretty sure it was called Spider-Man Jasper when I bought it. Haven’t cut any yet. It’s pretty cool looking stuff though.
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Post by khara on Nov 28, 2022 18:02:34 GMT -5
jasoninsd Looking forward to seeing your finished cabs!
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Post by Rockoonz on Nov 28, 2022 19:04:43 GMT -5
The spiderman and woman have to do with original and subsequent finds, according to the claim holder. There are differences in the red veins but, whatever...
Philip also says it's basinite, not jasper.
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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 28, 2022 20:05:42 GMT -5
We bought some of that Spiderweb Jasper years ago. The stuff we got was so crumbly it's still sitting in a box in the saw shop somewhere. Your slab look like it actually may be cuttable. The Reyes Agate is beautiful! Can't wait to see the cabs from it. Thanks Robin!  That Spiderweb Jasper is SO prone to fractures! I've got some pieces marked out that I don't think have fracture issues...but we'll see! I'm super stoked about working that Reyes!  Trade names are the bane of the hobby IMO. I thought it was funny that Spiderman Jasper (which emerged about the same time as the eponymous movie series) had to be renamed "Spiderwoman" to keep pace with Woke culture. This material from Idaho bore the original "Spiderman" name. Don't know what the type you refer to looks like. Thanks Rick!! I totally messed up the ID on the material in that 3rd picture. I was thinking it was Spiderman/Spiderwoman Jasper...but I think it might actually be Lavic. The colorization is ALL wrong for Spiderman/Spiderwoman Jasper...where it's black with red "webbing" - like yours is! aDave - Is the material in the 3rd picture what you were saying was the Lavic? I thought it was some of the other red material...but now I'm thinking it's this one. gemfeller I also have a chunk of rough that looks like yours. Bought it years ago, maybe a decade, from an Idaho seller. Pretty sure it was called Spider-Man Jasper when I bought it. Haven’t cut any yet. It’s pretty cool looking stuff though. I'm pretty sure I messed up the ID as being Spiderman Jasper. If it's not too much trouble...I'd love to see a picture of your piece if you can. jasoninsd Looking forward to seeing your finished cabs! Thanks! I'm really looking forward to working each one of these! The spiderman and woman have to do with original and subsequent finds, according to the claim holder. There are differences in the red veins but, whatever... Philip also says it's basinite, not jasper. Thanks for chiming in Lee! It's nice to hear what the difference between Spiderman and Spiderwoman is! And of course, it's ANOTHER material labeled jasper...when it really isn't! LOL |
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Post by gemfeller on Nov 28, 2022 20:18:23 GMT -5
The spiderman and woman have to do with original and subsequent finds, according to the claim holder. There are differences in the red veins but, whatever... Philip also says it's basinite, not jasper. As you say, "whatever." It polishes like basanite i.e., it doesn't polish at all like a quartz material. The word "jasper" has come to mean "We can't identify it for sure, or you probably wouldn't buy it if we named it accurately, so we'll call it jasper." It was originally marketed as jasper as I recall. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 28, 2022 20:27:02 GMT -5
The spiderman and woman have to do with original and subsequent finds, according to the claim holder. There are differences in the red veins but, whatever... Philip also says it's basinite, not jasper. The word "jasper" has come to mean "We can't identify it for sure, or you probably wouldn't buy it if we named it accurately, so we'll call it jasper."  |
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Post by realrockhound on Nov 28, 2022 21:06:45 GMT -5
Trade names are the bane of the hobby IMO. I thought it was funny that Spiderman Jasper (which emerged about the same time as the eponymous movie series) had to be renamed "Spiderwoman" to keep pace with Woke culture. This material from Idaho bore the original "Spiderman" name. Don't know what the type you refer to looks like. Excuse me!! It’s spider person! Thank you very much |
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Post by realrockhound on Nov 28, 2022 21:08:19 GMT -5
Jake jacobitz is the dude who found it I believe. Spider person jasper, that is. And it uses they/them pronouns 😂
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Nov 28, 2022 21:08:55 GMT -5
Trade names are the bane of the hobby IMO. I thought it was funny that Spiderman Jasper (which emerged about the same time as the eponymous movie series) had to be renamed "Spiderwoman" to keep pace with Woke culture. This material from Idaho bore the original "Spiderman" name. Don't know what the type you refer to looks like. Excuse me!! It’s spider person! Thank you very much  |
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Post by aDave on Nov 28, 2022 22:21:18 GMT -5
jasoninsd - Yes, that 3rd photo looks to be some brecciated Lavic material. I missed it earlier when I looked at the thread, as I forgot I sent you some. That's a fine piece indeed. Let's just hope it's fully sillicated and will take a polish in all spots. That's the bane of this material for cabbing.
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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 28, 2022 22:34:19 GMT -5
jasoninsd - Yes, that 3rd photo looks to be some brecciated Lavic material. I missed it earlier when I looked at the thread, as I forgot I sent you some. That's a fine piece indeed. Let's just hope it's fully sillicated and will take a polish in all spots. That's the bane of this material for cabbing. I'm only like 2 for 5 on IDing material today! I swear I wasn't drunk when I posted the threads today! LOL I've got a couple preforms of each of these marked out...now just waiting no something above 20 degrees to hit again to get on the trim saw! LOL |
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Post by aDave on Nov 28, 2022 22:50:00 GMT -5
jasoninsd - Yes, that 3rd photo looks to be some brecciated Lavic material. I missed it earlier when I looked at the thread, as I forgot I sent you some. That's a fine piece indeed. Let's just hope it's fully sillicated and will take a polish in all spots. That's the bane of this material for cabbing. I'm only like 2 for 5 on IDing material today! I swear I wasn't drunk when I posted the threads today! LOL I've got a couple preforms of each of these marked out...now just waiting no something above 20 degrees to hit again to get on the trim saw! LOL Can't wait to see it. That piece of Lavic you cut is pretty classic for its reds and yellows. Funny how I've seen folks get nicer stuff than I kept, LOL. But, I really like the stuff. My favorite specimen that I've kept is a piece of brecciated Lavic seen below. Not meaning to hijack your thread, but it's amazing the variations that can come out of this place. While this photo shows it wet, it doesn't need to be. The colors are just as vivid dry. It was literally the last piece I collected on one trip, and I've never seen anything else like it.  |
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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 28, 2022 23:47:25 GMT -5
I'm only like 2 for 5 on IDing material today! I swear I wasn't drunk when I posted the threads today! LOL I've got a couple preforms of each of these marked out...now just waiting no something above 20 degrees to hit again to get on the trim saw! LOL Can't wait to see it. That piece of Lavic you cut is pretty classic for its reds and yellows. Funny how I've seen folks get nicer stuff than I kept, LOL. But, I really like the stuff. My favorite specimen that I've kept is a piece of brecciated Lavic seen below. Not meaning to hijack your thread, but it's amazing the variations that can come out of this place. While this photo shows it wet, it doesn't need to be. The colors are just as vivid dry. It was literally the last piece I collected on one trip, and I've never seen anything else like it. That's a gorgeous piece right there! Ever since I got into rocks I've had a thing for brecciated material! |
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Post by Rockoonz on Nov 29, 2022 10:17:29 GMT -5
Now realrockhoundI like the non binary spider material, great intarsia stuff. I bought a flat rate box from Philip. In fact, I should figure out where it is and make something up with some other stuff I have in a saw right now. Maybe next year... |
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Post by khara on Nov 29, 2022 16:25:43 GMT -5
jasoninsd Pretty sure mine is he/him Spider-man identifying as “jasper” because I procured it way before the she/her version came onto the scene. Unfortunately much of my rock collection got moved and stored out of easy access while we deal with some changes around here. I will keep an eye out for it and post a pic when I find it. It may be a surprise further down the road.
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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 29, 2022 17:15:31 GMT -5
jasoninsd Pretty sure mine is he/him Spider-man identifying as “jasper” because I procured it way before the she/her version came onto the scene. Unfortunately much of my rock collection got moved and stored out of easy access while we deal with some changes around here. I will keep an eye out for it and post a pic when I find it. It may be a surprise further down the road. No pressure on the picture. I was just thinking if it was handy.  After discussing things with aDave on the phone earlier today, the piece that I posted was completely misidentified. The 3rd picture is definitely Lavic...and not Spidey Jasper (I'm just going to start calling it that from now on! LOL) |
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