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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 23, 2023 18:36:49 GMT -5
I was doing some pre forming on my Ameritool trim saw (which I like a lot), when I started getting soaked, which was very unusual.
At first, I couldn't figure it out, but then I realized that the saw blade cover was moving out of position to the point where it wasn't really working. I took a little hammer and knocked it back down the rod and into position.
I thought a retainer ring or something might be missing. But, no. I called Ameritool about it. Bob, the tech guy, is out of town for 3 weeks. So, after all that, I put a clothespin on the rod next to the cover. Sure. But, I really would like to fix it without a wooden clothespin.
Any ideas?
I know it's not an end of the world kinda thing. But, if I can't use it, then what good is it to me? I bought it expressly for using in the house.
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Post by khara on Jan 23, 2023 23:12:52 GMT -5
I don’t have any thoughts as I’m not familiar with the saw but I can relate. Just recently my 220 grit wheel, and only that wheel, has developed an errant spray. It sprays me directly in the face. Never did this before and I haven’t figured out what changed that is causing it. I have to sit to the side while working that wheel which makes it really difficult to see what I’m doing. I’m getting much more soaked than I used to! Hopefully we both find resolutions soon! 💦💦💦💦💦
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 24, 2023 2:05:12 GMT -5
I was doing some pre forming on my Ameritool trim saw (which I like a lot), when I started getting soaked, which was very unusual.
At first, I couldn't figure it out, but then I realized that the saw blade cover was moving out of position to the point where it wasn't really working. I took a little hammer and knocked it back down the rod and into position.
I thought a retainer ring or something might be missing. But, no. I called Ameritool about it. Bob, the tech guy, is out of town for 3 weeks. So, after all that, I put a clothespin on the rod next to the cover. Sure. But, I really would like to fix it without a wooden clothespin.
Any ideas?
I know it's not an end of the world kinda thing. But, if I can't use it, then what good is it to me? I bought it expressly for using in the house.
I don’t have any thoughts as I’m not familiar with the saw but I can relate. Just recently my 220 grit wheel, and only that wheel, has developed an errant spray. It sprays me directly in the face. Never did this before and I haven’t figured out what changed that is causing it. I have to sit to the side while working that wheel which makes it really difficult to see what I’m doing. I’m getting much more soaked than I used to! Hopefully we both find resolutions soon! 💦💦💦💦💦 SWIMMING GOGGLES!!  |
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Post by liveoak on Jan 24, 2023 8:36:19 GMT -5
I don’t have any thoughts as I’m not familiar with the saw but I can relate. Just recently my 220 grit wheel, and only that wheel, has developed an errant spray. It sprays me directly in the face. Never did this before and I haven’t figured out what changed that is causing it. I have to sit to the side while working that wheel which makes it really difficult to see what I’m doing. I’m getting much more soaked than I used to! Hopefully we both find resolutions soon! 💦💦💦💦💦 Maybe the felt at the top needs re-adjusting OR maybe the water nozzle (under the top cover) moved to one side of the wheel.
Patty
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jan 24, 2023 9:27:48 GMT -5
Tela rockjunquie, can you post a picture of your trim saw and the area on it that holds the blade cover? |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jan 24, 2023 9:28:25 GMT -5
khara what brand of cabbing machine do you have?
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 24, 2023 9:53:01 GMT -5
hummingbirdstones This is the removable top of the saw. The silver bar is metal. The plastic blade cover is meant to be stationary on it. Not only does it travel right and left, but the cover won't stay up in any position. I think it's just worn out or wallowed out. The weird thing is, it was working fine, then BAM it wasn't. No in between. I'm sure they'll want me to buy a whole new top for like 200.00. |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jan 24, 2023 10:08:31 GMT -5
Does the plastic from the guard extend down past the slit in the metal on the table? It looks like it might in the picture. I would think that is what prevents it from traveling when it's being used. Is is possible the guard wasn't down far enough when you used it? If not, I would think an easy fix would be to just wrap some electrical tape around the rod enough to make a stop so it won't travel.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 24, 2023 10:28:22 GMT -5
Does the plastic from the guard extend down past the slit in the metal on the table? It looks like it might in the picture. I would think that is what prevents it from traveling when it's being used. Is is possible the guard wasn't down far enough when you used it? If not, I would think an easy fix would be to just wrap some electrical tape around the rod enough to make a stop so it won't travel. Electrical tape! That's what I'll try.  |
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Post by liveoak on Jan 24, 2023 12:18:52 GMT -5
Too funny Robin, hummingbirdstones , I was going to say Duct Tape. Duct tape fixes everything doesn't it 
Patty
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Post by opalpyrexia on Jan 24, 2023 13:06:04 GMT -5
The blade guard on my Ameritool trim saw can be removed by pulling while twisting it back and forth on the shaft. Mine still has enough friction to stay in place, but eventually (with continued movement) it will slip like like yours.
Here is a potential fix:
1. Remove the guard and drill a hole in the back side of the guard attachment point (the side facing away from you when sawing).
2. Glue a nut to that side.
3. Insert a screw that will function as a set screw or friction point by pressing on the shaft.
If you want me to do it, just send me the guard.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 24, 2023 13:15:25 GMT -5
The blade guard on my Ameritool trim saw can be removed by pulling while twisting it back and forth on the shaft. Mine still has enough friction to stay in place, but eventually (with continued movement) it will slip like like yours. Here is a potential fix: 1. Remove the guard and drill a hole in the back side of the guard attachment point (the side facing away from you when sawing). 2. Glue a nut to that side. 3. Insert a screw that will function as a set screw or friction point by pressing on the shaft. If you want me to do it, just send me the guard. That's a really good idea! Thanks! And, thanks for the offer, but me thinks you will have a chance to do that to your own soon enough. Mine isn't all that old. I'm a little surprised and also disappointed. |
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Post by parfive on Jan 24, 2023 13:56:23 GMT -5
Try a wrap or two of Teflon tape at the end of the post before you slip on the blade guard.
Electrical tape is probably too thick.
You can also replace your clothes pin with a ty-wrap to prevent the dreaded leftward travel. : )
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Post by opalpyrexia on Jan 24, 2023 14:54:58 GMT -5
The blade guard on my Ameritool trim saw can be removed by pulling while twisting it back and forth on the shaft. Mine still has enough friction to stay in place, but eventually (with continued movement) it will slip like like yours. Here is a potential fix: 1. Remove the guard and drill a hole in the back side of the guard attachment point (the side facing away from you when sawing). 2. Glue a nut to that side. 3. Insert a screw that will function as a set screw or friction point by pressing on the shaft. If you want me to do it, just send me the guard. That's a really good idea! Thanks! And, thanks for the offer, but me thinks you will have a chance to do that to your own soon enough. Mine isn't all that old. I'm a little surprised and also disappointed.
If you decide to do this, use JB Weld and pack some of it up the sides of the nut for added strength.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 24, 2023 14:58:29 GMT -5
That's a really good idea! Thanks! And, thanks for the offer, but me thinks you will have a chance to do that to your own soon enough. Mine isn't all that old. I'm a little surprised and also disappointed.
If you decide to do this, use JB Weld and pack some of it up the sides of the nut for added strength.
I was thinking that. Plus, there is a seam in the plastic on the guard. I'll want to think about placing the nut first and then drilling it. I could use a self tapping screw to finish the hole and go through my bolt bin. |
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Post by opalpyrexia on Jan 24, 2023 15:42:13 GMT -5
If you decide to do this, use JB Weld and pack some of it up the sides of the nut for added strength.
I was thinking that. Plus, there is a seam in the plastic on the guard. I'll want to think about placing the nut first and then drilling it. I could use a self tapping screw to finish the hole and go through my bolt bin.
Great idea! I'm going to do the mod before the problem happens. I've got small taps. I'm in the mood anyway: we have a Repair Cafe on Saturday.
I'll post a photo or two as well.
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Post by khara on Jan 24, 2023 16:14:17 GMT -5
hummingbirdstones and liveoak It’s a Kingsley North. Not many hours on it. I keep tugging at and shifting the felt and also decreasing/increasing water flow. Neither seem to help. I’m thinking the nozzle may need to be shifted. I tried to get my fingers up in there and can’t quite reach and haven’t taken the time to take the top off cause that’s a little bit of a hassle with making sure it goes back together just right. I think what it’s doing is dripping water down onto the wheel at exactly the right spot for that water to just flip right back off forwards as opposed to sliding down the face of the wheel. I may need to give in and try and get under the top to that nozzle. I spent the weekend on my slab saw so just haven’t had time to get over to the cabber to troubleshoot. My felts are getting pretty worn through already. I can see a slight design change could probably be made there to keep them from wearing away so quickly. rockjunquie Hope the electrical tape or set screw does the trick for you!
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 24, 2023 16:15:40 GMT -5
I was thinking that. Plus, there is a seam in the plastic on the guard. I'll want to think about placing the nut first and then drilling it. I could use a self tapping screw to finish the hole and go through my bolt bin.
Great idea! I'm going to do the mod before the problem happens. I've got small taps. I'm in the mood anyway: we have a Repair Cafe on Saturday.
I'll post a photo or two as well.
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Post by khara on Jan 24, 2023 16:23:12 GMT -5
rockjunquie I’m curious now to go take a look at my little Inland flat lap trim saw attachment and see how that guard is held in place. It’s what I used to use for “cabbing”. (In quotes cause I never was very successful or productive with it.) But I’ve been meaning to get the machine back out and maybe use it for actual flat lap purposes and then it’s also got the little trim saw too.
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Post by opalpyrexia on Jan 24, 2023 17:42:44 GMT -5
Here's the modification:
I used a pointed bur in my flexshaft to make a starter depression in the spray shield, and then I clamped it in wood for stability while drilling with a #29 bit to be able to tap with 8-32 threads. (A 1/8" bit would have worked, too.) I chose 8-32 in order to have sufficient threads in the relatively thin plastic.
The hole is drilled:
Threads are tapped and an 8-32 screw is inserted:
And here's the blade guard reinstalled. I tightened it finger-tight, which is sufficient to keep it in place:
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