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Post by liveoak on Feb 11, 2023 10:46:29 GMT -5
I recently was graciously gifted some Gary Green Jasper from susand24224 (Thank you Susan) , and low and behold one of the rocks was not green inside .
I believe Susan said she purchased this a couple of years ago from someone that self collected it.
On the outside of the question rock there was a small area of typical gary green , but once we cut it, there was no green to be found.
I was wondering if anyone has seen this before, and what would you call it ? Since it's not green.
First rock - typical Gary Green ( very nice)
Second Rock- not green but extremely cool pattern
Patty
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hummingbirdstones2
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Post by hummingbirdstones2 on Feb 11, 2023 10:59:31 GMT -5
Oh yeah, those "non-typical" colors were highly desirable in the old material. Some folks have probably never seen any like that.
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Post by liveoak on Feb 11, 2023 11:29:28 GMT -5
I'm feeling like I got lucky, as it's pretty cool looking stuff.
After looking at some online photos, I'm thinking I should just call this Larsonite .
Patty
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Post by rockjunquie on Feb 11, 2023 11:42:37 GMT -5
I've seen the red "freedom jasper" aka Gary Green go for a pretty penny on ebay.
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Post by hummingbirdstones2 on Feb 11, 2023 11:49:13 GMT -5
I still call all of it "Larsonite". That was the most commonly used name when I started cutting, and I hate when people change "trade names" on stuff.
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Post by rockjunquie on Feb 11, 2023 11:51:21 GMT -5
I still call all of it "Larsonite". That was the most commonly used name when I started cutting, and I hate when people change "trade names" on stuff. I hear ya!
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Post by liveoak on Feb 11, 2023 11:51:48 GMT -5
Well luckily Susan already agreed I could keep it , I did offer to send it back
There's a couple of names I find online,
as you said Tela, rockjunquie"Freedom Jasper" is the new one. But I think I like "Caldera Paint Jasper ", it sounds more exotic.
Patty
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Post by liveoak on Feb 11, 2023 11:54:44 GMT -5
You're right, of course Vince. I laugh at some of the names I see for some rocks. But I do like the "Caldera Paint Jasper"
Patty
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Post by Rockoonz on Feb 11, 2023 14:24:34 GMT -5
It seems that Mr Larson and Gary were disliked by the previous claim owner Dale, and that the current owner John went along with his wishes. Perhaps some rock drama, but I am friends with Dale and John so I have no opinion there. The material with the colors other than green or blue has been called caldera, paint, or caldera paint for some time, perhaps even before Dale. The old greener stuff, generally full of pits and fractures and difficult to work, either got mined out or is now ignored due to the poorer quality, so "green" in the name is no longer applicable anyway. Then there's the "ellipso" which has also been around a long time. I recently cut a couple buckets of rough from the 2022 dig that I got from John last summer.
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Post by susand24224 on Feb 11, 2023 20:45:05 GMT -5
Thank you for tagging me liveoak Patty, and I really enjoyed this history of this rock. I will now be cutting twenty more pounds of it to see if I can duplicate what you've come up with. BTW, the one rock I've cut was quite stable--surprisingly enough! It does look like you have some stable areas there (keeping fingers crossed).
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Post by liveoak on Feb 11, 2023 20:51:02 GMT -5
If the rain ever stops here, that I can get outside to my band saw & cut a pre-form, I'll be the first to let you know, susand24224Exciting, I got 2 for 1 & fun with Gary Green & Caldera Painted Jasper
Patty
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Post by susand24224 on Feb 11, 2023 20:56:02 GMT -5
If the rain ever stops here, that I can get outside to my band saw & cut a pre-form, I'll be the first to let you know, susand24224Exciting, I got 2 for 1 & fun with Gary Green & Caldera Painted Jasper Patty
Deal!
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Post by wpotterw on Feb 13, 2023 13:30:03 GMT -5
I recently was graciously gifted some Gary Green Jasper from susand24224 (Thank you Susan) , and low and behold one of the rocks was not green inside .
I believe Susan said she purchased this a couple of years ago from someone that self collected it.
On the outside of the question rock there was a small area of typical gary green , but once we cut it, there was no green to be found.
I was wondering if anyone has seen this before, and what would you call it ? Since it's not green.
First rock - typical Gary Green ( very nice)
Second Rock- not green but extremely cool pattern
Patty
Hans Gamma discusses these jaspers in his new book. He says they are named after Gary McIntosh and Ray Larson, who were the original miners of those jaspers. He also says they are both bogwood from distinctly different locations, that the colors vary greatly and Larsonite is more silicified than Gary Green. There is also a picture of theheavily grained brown slab with the Larsonite pics that he calls Caldera Jasper.
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Post by wpotterw on Feb 13, 2023 13:31:31 GMT -5
I recently was graciously gifted some Gary Green Jasper from susand24224 (Thank you Susan) , and low and behold one of the rocks was not green inside .
I believe Susan said she purchased this a couple of years ago from someone that self collected it.
On the outside of the question rock there was a small area of typical gary green , but once we cut it, there was no green to be found.
I was wondering if anyone has seen this before, and what would you call it ? Since it's not green.
First rock - typical Gary Green ( very nice)
Second Rock- not green but extremely cool pattern
Patty
Hans Gamma discusses these jaspers in his new book. He says they are named after Gary McIntosh and Ray Larson, who were the original miners of those jaspers. He also says they are both bogwood from distinctly different locations, that the colors vary greatly and Larsonite is more silicified than Gary Green. There is also a picture of theheavily grained brown slab with the Larsonite pics that he calls Caldera Jasper. Meant to say that the Caldera looks like your brown slab too.
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Post by liveoak on Feb 13, 2023 13:42:35 GMT -5
Looks like a nice book Bill wpotterw, I'll have to put in on my wish for list. Thanks, Patty
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Post by rmf on Feb 13, 2023 14:01:04 GMT -5
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Post by Rockoonz on Feb 13, 2023 17:51:19 GMT -5
Hans Gamma discusses these jaspers in his new book. He says they are named after Gary McIntosh and Ray Larson, who were the original miners of those jaspers. He also says they are both bogwood from distinctly different locations, that the colors vary greatly and Larsonite is more silicified than Gary Green. There is also a picture of theheavily grained brown slab with the Larsonite pics that he calls Caldera Jasper. Hans definitely makes a nice picture book, but may listen to the wrong people when it comes to origins. Dale sent out samples, they were examined, and there is zero indication of anything petrified. If the sediment layers, waterline, or whatever it is were organic and that well defined, there would be clear indications that would lead to the specific species.
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Post by rockbrain on Feb 13, 2023 18:10:58 GMT -5
Don't know how good the source is but I've also read that the whole petrified bog wood thing has been completely debunked.
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Post by wpotterw on Feb 13, 2023 18:53:11 GMT -5
Hans Gamma discusses these jaspers in his new book. He says they are named after Gary McIntosh and Ray Larson, who were the original miners of those jaspers. He also says they are both bogwood from distinctly different locations, that the colors vary greatly and Larsonite is more silicified than Gary Green. There is also a picture of theheavily grained brown slab with the Larsonite pics that he calls Caldera Jasper. Hans definitely makes a nice picture book, but may listen to the wrong people when it comes to origins. Dale sent out samples, they were examined, and there is zero indication of anything petrified. If the sediment layers, waterline, or whatever it is were organic and that well defined, there would be clear indications that would lead to the specific species. I had heard of controversy over the Larsonite/G. Green claims, but never dug in. thank you for the additional input. BP
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