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Post by velodromed on May 9, 2023 15:45:58 GMT -5
velodromed Feel free to borrow away. I borrowed the idea from another member. I wish he was still here to provide his input. His name was Vince. He was very innovative and always had good ideas. Here’s a better picture with the fence actually bolted down. I included an aftermarket bit that is slightly thinner than the Gryphon bit. It required a brass bushing to fit the machine’s shaft. I ordered the bushing from McMaster-Carr. I had to sand it a little to fit the bit plus drill a hole for the set screw to go through. You can see the bushing inside the bit in the photo.  Nice bit of rigging that you have there. I figured that’s how you did the screws and I had noticed you use the different bit. Using a brass bushing is the same way I’d attach a larger pinion to a thinner motor shaft, so it totally makes sense. Out of curiosity, do you use the thinner bit for thinner cabs or do you just prefer to use thinner wire for all? What gauge wire do you typically use? Thank you very much! |
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Post by Starguy on May 10, 2023 11:29:15 GMT -5
Just for thinner wire.
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Post by velodromed on May 10, 2023 16:04:07 GMT -5
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Post by jasoninsd on May 11, 2023 18:35:05 GMT -5
Velo, I've been using 20 gauge wire for my wire wraps. It seems to be just right for the sized "bit" I use.
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Post by The Dad_Ohs on May 13, 2023 19:33:43 GMT -5
Inward curves in the shape of your cabs might be part of the trouble, your wire may want to pull out flush when tight and not keep to the shape of your cab. If the cabs had a standard round / oval shape i bet the groove wrap would be much easier. Bails are my personal bane but imo yours look pretty good. Thank you very much! Man, I thought the bails looked awful. I feel a bit better now lol. I spent an hour just working on these three and was getting frustrated. I’ve been using a wooden dowel to help tap the wire into the odd shape of the rock, but I’m realizing I didn’t grind the groove quite deep enough. I think I’m going to use square wire next, but I’ll ‘adjust’ the grooves a bit more first. My ultimate goal is to learn how to make cabs but we cannot swing the cost of the machinery at this time. So until I figure out how to make them with more basic tools (I’m working on that) I’ll be practicing on these. Thanks again! If you are using half hard wire you should not have any issues with he wire pulling out during normal wear and tear. However, if you are worried about it a drop of super thin CA in the groove after the wire is installed will keep it there and can be buffed after to bring the shine back to the wire. the reason I say after is that the glue spreads rapidly and the wire will help it travel along the groove and not all over your hands. I have only ever had to glue 2 out of maybe 50 or so groove wraps including one where the wire floated over an inward cut in the stone as opposed to following the groove. |
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Post by velodromed on May 14, 2023 9:12:55 GMT -5
Thank you very much! Man, I thought the bails looked awful. I feel a bit better now lol. I spent an hour just working on these three and was getting frustrated. I’ve been using a wooden dowel to help tap the wire into the odd shape of the rock, but I’m realizing I didn’t grind the groove quite deep enough. I think I’m going to use square wire next, but I’ll ‘adjust’ the grooves a bit more first. My ultimate goal is to learn how to make cabs but we cannot swing the cost of the machinery at this time. So until I figure out how to make them with more basic tools (I’m working on that) I’ll be practicing on these. Thanks again! If you are using half hard wire you should not have any issues with he wire pulling out during normal wear and tear. However, if you are worried about it a drop of super thin CA in the groove after the wire is installed will keep it there and can be buffed after to bring the shine back to the wire. the reason I say after is that the glue spreads rapidly and the wire will help it travel along the groove and not all over your hands. I have only ever had to glue 2 out of maybe 50 or so groove wraps including one where the wire floated over an inward cut in the stone as opposed to following the groove. Thank you, I was wondering what glue would work. Initially, I was thinking some e6000, but superglue makes more sense. I love the way super glue works like that, I use it to glue RC tires and just a little drop will spread all the way around the rim evenly. I’m using dead soft wire, but I did recently get some half hard to see what that was like to work with. I also got some square wire to try. Many thanks!! |
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