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Post by HankRocks on Sept 12, 2024 5:23:22 GMT -5
These were done on the Vibe Lap Anyone care to guess what this material is? It surprised me when I cut it in half. It is South Texas Petrified Wood. I have never seen agate replacement like this before. Cut a flat base on the whole piece and then cut it in half. Another one that really needs to go in the cabinet. jamesp you were right about that South Texas Wood, the variety and colors are really something. IMG_6068 by Findrocks, on Flickr Here's a thick slab of material from Needle Peak. Not sure if this agate has a specific name. victor1941 you have any idea. I have 2 more large pieces to slab up. Could not get a good closeup but if you zoom into the upper right corner there is a small thunderegg type inclusion with a stalactite and a waterline formation. IMG_6072 by Findrocks, on Flickr Thanks for looking Henry
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Post by rockjunquie on Sept 12, 2024 7:08:18 GMT -5
Very cool! I wouldn't have guessed the first one is wood.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 12, 2024 10:53:03 GMT -5
It is a challenge to know what is/isn't Texas petrified wood Henry. Sometimes a given rock will reveal only a small section of wood and the other 90% is replacements. Texas palm behaves the same way. It is also tricky to know if it is wood/fern/cycad/palm-like or hundreds of varieties of vascular/dicot/monocot and wood like petrifications. It is also tricky to know if it was silicified by volcanic ash or diatomaceous rich limestone sources. Much of the local Texas wood seems silicified by diatomaceous limestone sources, or limestone outcrops in the area are often peppered with a monoculture of similar pet wood if that means anything.
Good to see you got the vib-lap dialed in.
Some wood even has conglomerate filled sections. Locals have names for Texas wood like rotwood, shrinkwood, black wood, etc. Lots of various root petrifications too.
One report claimed over 400 species of pet palm in Texas. America probably has had only a dozen palm species since it was settled by Europeans. Must have been a diverse palm forest back in ancient times.
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Post by victor1941 on Sept 12, 2024 11:56:52 GMT -5
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Post by HankRocks on Sept 12, 2024 12:07:30 GMT -5
A gentleman has brought me about 250 to 300lbs of various varieties of wood from South Texas which I have been tumble polishing and Lap polishing for halves. It pretty neat material. It includes Shrink Wood, Rot Wood, Palm Wood, Snake Skin Wood and a few that defy identification. The strangest is the Toreado Wood with the some of tubes agate filled.
The piece pictured is from an old collection I have access to. Was not sure where it was from or that it was definitely wood until I cut and polished a smaller piece from the rocks mentioned above which had much more wood grain on the outside and had an almost identical interior.
Hoping he brings a few larger pieces next time so I can cut and polish some larger cross sections. When the weather cools he and I may attempt a trip to one of the ranches, if he can make the contact again. Unfortunately most of the places have newer younger owners who want nothing to do with collectors. You have to find older long time land owners who can be a bit more accommodating to collectors.
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Post by HankRocks on Sept 12, 2024 12:18:39 GMT -5
It would have been a real collectors dream to been able to collected at Needle Peak back in the 50's. About 30 years ago one of the little Shows in Lajitas at Thanksgiving had a field trip out there and one of the folks found the best piece of PomPom agate I ever saw. It was probably a solid 4 pound piece with lots of clear to translucent with bright yellow PomPoms scattered throughout the piece.
There was a spot on the NE corner that was accessible driving about 1 mile past the dead Cottonwood tree to the east. Within about 200 yards of my Bronco there sharks teeth, fossil oyster shells, small fossil bones, pet wood, multiple agate varieties. Of course some years the creek had washed out and you could not get to the spot.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 13, 2024 9:38:37 GMT -5
It would have been a real collectors dream to been able to collected at Needle Peak back in the 50's. About 30 years ago one of the little Shows in Lajitas at Thanksgiving had a field trip out there and one of the folks found the best piece of PomPom agate I ever saw. It was probably a solid 4 pound piece with lots of clear to translucent with bright yellow PomPoms scattered throughout the piece. There was a spot on the NE corner that was accessible driving about 1 mile past the dead Cottonwood tree to the east. Within about 200 yards of my Bronco there sharks teeth, fossil oyster shells, small fossil bones, pet wood, multiple agate varieties. Of course some years the creek had washed out and you could not get to the spot. The quality of rocks along Lake Falcon increased with remoteness and hard-to-reach locations. Of course permission to enter was the biggest challenge. I just happened to be collecting on a remote gravelled road when a well connected ranch owner stopped and invited me to collect on his ranch and his nephew's/uncle's/cousin's adjacent ranches. Collectively about 5000 acres. I think I walked about 1% of 1% of the collective properties, never made a dent. I will say that west Texas ranch owners wanted nothing to do with granting permissions but the folks around L Falcon were very open to hosting such permissions on multiple occasions. Different mentality all together. Most of the ranches had gravel pits which were gold mines for agates and wood. The third time I asked the initial ranch owner if I could bring a buddy(Captain Bob). He agreed but asked if he could borrow $700 which seemed to translate that he wanted a $700 payment for us to maintain permissions. So I paid him the money and never requested he pay me back. Money well spent considering the experience and fine rocks collected over a total of 6 weeks divided into three collecting trips.
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Post by rockjunquie on Sept 13, 2024 10:05:58 GMT -5
It would have been a real collectors dream to been able to collected at Needle Peak back in the 50's. About 30 years ago one of the little Shows in Lajitas at Thanksgiving had a field trip out there and one of the folks found the best piece of PomPom agate I ever saw. It was probably a solid 4 pound piece with lots of clear to translucent with bright yellow PomPoms scattered throughout the piece. There was a spot on the NE corner that was accessible driving about 1 mile past the dead Cottonwood tree to the east. Within about 200 yards of my Bronco there sharks teeth, fossil oyster shells, small fossil bones, pet wood, multiple agate varieties. Of course some years the creek had washed out and you could not get to the spot. The quality of rocks along Lake Falcon increased with remoteness and hard-to-reach locations. Of course permission to enter was the biggest challenge. I just happened to be collecting on a remote gravelled road when a well connected ranch owner stopped and invited me to collect on his ranch and his nephew's/uncle's/cousin's adjacent ranches. Collectively about 5000 acres. I think I walked about 1% of 1% of the collective properties, never made a dent. I will say that west Texas ranch owners wanted nothing to do with granting permissions but the folks around L Falcon were very open to hosting such permissions on multiple occasions. Different mentality all together. Most of the ranches had gravel pits which were gold mines for agates and wood. The third time I asked the initial ranch owner if I could bring a buddy(Captain Bob). He agreed but asked if he could borrow $700 which seemed to translate that he wanted a $700 payment for us to maintain permissions. So I paid him the money and never requested he pay me back. Money well spent considering the experience and fine rocks collected over a total of 6 weeks divided into three collecting trips. I remember that trip you and Bob made. What a great thread! Maybe it's time to resurrect it. Do you remember the title?
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Post by rockjunquie on Sept 13, 2024 10:17:04 GMT -5
found one of the links. Great pics and awesome finds! It was fun looking through it again.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 15, 2024 8:58:54 GMT -5
found one of the links. Great pics and awesome finds! It was fun looking through it again. The RTH bunch and Bob kept me motivated the whole 2.5 weeks Tela. Well, the purdy rocks helped . Had to be the best adventure ever. I almost got permission to hunt a massive quarry along the river upstream from Zapata. They cranked out many tons of these cobbles and gravels per day and had industrial grade scrubbers to clean the caliche off for easy ID. The best collecting advice I could give is to take a large lake boat like a bass boat on Lake Falcon and collect the gravel bars along the north lake shore(of course stay away from the south shore and Mexican side).
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