lastl98
spending too much on rocks
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Post by lastl98 on Mar 17, 2007 13:32:27 GMT -5
How do most of you keep track of your progress with your tumblers & flat laps? Do you keep a handwritten log? Is there an Excel spreadsheet you use? Is there a computer program made for just this purpose? I'm thinking about designing my own with Excel (my wife is an Excel Geek~!) What's out there & just what are you guys/gals using? I started out simple enough with just one tumbler, but have since added 3 other tumblers & vibe tumbler & a flat lap! Good Lord this is addicting~! LOL! What has worked best for most here? If you were to design a program what would you look for in it to be useful & adaptable to your tumbling & lapidary needs/wants. Thanks all & if my wife does come up with something I'd be more than happy to share it here with the members. Thanks for any & ALL input. I'm not doing this to try to sell anything just looking for a simpler more accurate way of tracking everything. Obviously would be a work in progress as are our obsessions with these darn rocks! Last
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Post by Condor on Mar 18, 2007 0:10:05 GMT -5
Having several tumblers, I just write down the day I begin a stage with the kinds of rocks in it. Once a week, I go back to the chart and mark it off whether there is a change or not. I still get confused every now and again though.
Condor
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joanna
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Post by joanna on Mar 18, 2007 4:42:16 GMT -5
I use a notebook that includes the details of content (with any extra notes about the batch), the date started, what grit used, how many days till it needs to be checked and the date it should be done. Then I have a spare calendar (just for rocks)and I write on there what barrel is due to be changed, how many days tumbled and what grit.
Very low tech, but I try to keep it as simple as possible with 10 tumblers and a vibe going. I like to keep all my notes in the shop and don't really like the idea of having to get on the computer whenever a barrel gets changed, no spread sheets here, I'm swimming in enough paperwork.
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Post by Jack ( Yorkshire) on Mar 18, 2007 9:40:24 GMT -5
Hi Last, I got into a right mess a couple of times as im over 65 and do forget so this is what I do
I name all my barrels Sam ,Fred ,Dave, Sally or whatever.
I write in note book a log every time I do something to a barrel
eg, say Sam, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 12th march 07 washed added 80 grit 1st run put a line under this across the page ------------------------------------------------------ off 18th March 07
So I know --- Sam is to be changed on the 18th
the date is in a small colum on the left and days it has been on (6 in this case), in a small colum to the right(of the main notes)
I used to use a calender but with up to 8 barrels it got tooooooooooooooo confusing !!
You canalso add the stage that it is on in a different colour of felt tip under the date if needed, or in another small coloum Hope this is a help
Jack Yorkshire UK
PS I now have a vibe Lot "O" and keep a seperate note book just for it as the change over is so quick.
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agatemaggot
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Post by agatemaggot on Mar 18, 2007 17:27:55 GMT -5
Found a real easy way of keeping everything in order. I only use my 18 lb. Vibro now, so I take the grit off the shelf and set it next to the tumbler while recharging it. After charging I take my measuring cup and wash it out well. When returning grit tub to the shelf I place the measuring cup on the next grit to be used. The only problem I run into is remembering to shut the door so the wife's cat and the grandkids can't get in there and Queer my act !!!
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lastl98
spending too much on rocks
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Post by lastl98 on Mar 18, 2007 18:23:12 GMT -5
Hey all. Thanks for the replies & input. I liked the idea about naming the tumblers! LOL Very helpful members here for sure. I can understand why some wouldn't want to bother putting your log into a computer spreadsheet/program but I think if I can get it polished (pun intended) enough & easy enough as well as fun to use it could to be a huge benefit to those looking for tweaking their formulas & run~times. Of course you'll have the added benefits of charting progress with pretty little pie charts & other types of charts too! We started on it yesterday & already had a little tiff on how to input some of the data. He He~! It's definitely going to take a while but I hope to have something to show & share in the future. Thanks again everyone! Last
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deanf
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Post by deanf on Mar 19, 2007 0:02:10 GMT -5
Here is what I do.
I keep a record of each batch in one of those black and white composition books. I use these headings:
batch # contains: (list rock type) Mohs Hardness: From: (list details of where found,received, purchased)
and then the part of the cycle I'm in (coarse, medium, prepolish, polish, burnish) like this:
coarse (80 Grit) date started to date finished 6 tablespoons grit (I'm mostly using 3 lb tumblers) Weight: x Lbs X oz
When I move to the next section I just fill in my dates and start the new header. I use the space after each section for any notes I want to keep.
For the barrels I number each one with a Brother label maker with the "batch number" and what it contains, either whats in it or "mixed" if it's a bunch of stuff ('cus the 3 Lb tumbler lids too small to write much on it :-) ).
Between these I can look at my book, see what was started and when, the go find the right barrel by the label.
Since I now have 7 barrels going I'm thinking of picking up a small white board (the memo size) and writing down the next operation required on each barrel in descending date order. That way I can see at a glance what is due based on the date.
I'm not usually such a good recored keeper, but I'm still learning so I figure if I have good scientific record of what happened, maybe I can isolate the things I try that work well (and those that don't) faster.
Hope some of this helps.
Dean
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Post by Jack ( Yorkshire) on Mar 19, 2007 3:25:53 GMT -5
Hi Dean, I tried that but got into complications when different barrels come off at different days , I missed some ,
The system I use now (above ) Ijust follow the date,
Jack Yorkshire UK
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deanf
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Post by deanf on Mar 19, 2007 9:40:31 GMT -5
I have had that happen too Jack. What I do now is keep a list. The barrel number, the date and what it's getting changed to (in descending order by date). I still miss the occasional change when I don't have enough time that day, but I'm doing pretty well at keeping up.
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Mar 20, 2007 11:37:04 GMT -5
I have a little note book- I put down the date they need to be checked changed whatever and a box next to it- If the box is Checked then it's been done- I have a seperate barrel for each stage- so it goes like this 3/27/07- Pull Polish 3/27/07 Pull 500 3/27/07 Pull 60/90- recharge
I have tried other record keeping stuff (rock types, length of run, weight ect.) but i would just get lost in the paperwork- So I follow one recipe- and I know when to check evereything
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Post by Cher on Mar 20, 2007 18:51:04 GMT -5
I kept track of mine in an Excel file since I started. It was the easiest way for me to know what I had done, what I was supposed to do next and when to do it.
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Post by LCARS on Mar 23, 2007 13:18:25 GMT -5
I just keep a journal in a small notebook and I mark my barrels at the start of each run. I write down dates & times whenever I check on them or move them along to the next stage. Since nobody else can read my chicken scratch I never have to worry about anyone else stealing my secrets. ;D
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181lizard
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Post by 181lizard on Mar 25, 2007 14:51:07 GMT -5
Oh God! I'm sooooo caveman!
I throw in rocks. Water. Grit. Pinch of borax... & let er rip!
Once in a while, I open it...check it...do whatever needs to be done & let er rip again!
When I like what they look like...I clean em... & send em on to the next stage.
Repeat process until they shine.
Crap...now I'm gonna have to get a notebook....
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lsmike
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Post by lsmike on Mar 29, 2007 17:40:40 GMT -5
I keep a journal too.One thingI do which is fun and informative is to weigh the rock berore and after it goes into my rollers in 60/90 and then figure the % of reduction.
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toucheturtle
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Post by toucheturtle on Apr 12, 2007 6:11:13 GMT -5
Well i'm very low-tech, i've only got 2 barrels but I guess this would work with however many you get... Have a card for each batch of rocks. Put the rock type and any other details at the top. Keep it next to the appropriate barrel. Every time you do something to the barrel, write it on the card with the date and any notes e.g. 'nearly done, check in a week' If the batch has to take some time out of action , just put it away with its data card and when you come back to it you'll know exactly what's happened so far. When the batch is finished file the card away, maybe with a photo of the finished rocks for reference next time.
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Post by Jack ( Yorkshire) on Apr 13, 2007 1:15:32 GMT -5
Hi Toucheturtle, Welcome to the board ,
As above Im 66 so I forget so the main thing for me is to--
Write it down as you have one thing to remember is keep the notes clear of the tumbler !!!!
I put on the date when due off rather than the days on tumbling so I can go through the set and see which needs attention.
And I should have said I have a seperate page for each tumbler (this makes it easier to analize the run , add time or grit, & adjust as nessary ect)
Jack Yorkshire UK
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