momma
starting to spend too much on rocks
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Member since December 2004
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Post by momma on Jan 10, 2005 19:58:04 GMT -5
Hey all, its me again. Aluminum Oxide and Lusterite II. Are these good Polishes? What kind of rocks do they polish better?
momma
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Post by cookie3rocks on Jan 10, 2005 22:56:48 GMT -5
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Post by docone31 on Jan 10, 2005 22:57:38 GMT -5
I like CO2. I prefer it to Aluminum Oxide.
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Post by cookie3rocks on Jan 10, 2005 23:12:41 GMT -5
Right now I use CO exclusively, but am considering branching out. Doc, is there a difference in CO and CO2?
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Post by docone31 on Jan 10, 2005 23:41:08 GMT -5
CO2, is Cerium Oxide. At least from the combined periodic table. The oxide has to be 2 atoms per molecule, it cannot be 1 atom. CO is an abreviation of the base letters, not a chemical description. Water is 2H small 2 O Carbon dioxide is CO small 2 Cerium Oxide is CO2. Carbon dioxide is CO small 2, Cerium Oxide is CO2 There are two Ceriums, two O small 2 per molecule. I think I just confused the daylights out of myself with the small2, large 2, prefix 2-. Cerium Oxide cannot exist with one Cerium (C) and one oxygen (O). It has to have 2 Cerium, 2 Oxygen. Rather than be 2CO, it is CO2. At 2CO, it would be (CO)(CO). The oxygen would be released at that valence and it would reverto to cerium. Notice the difference between Cerium, and cerium. I forget the base material CO2 comes from, but it is not found in natural form as Cerium Oxide. Cerium Oxide is a manmade, high tech, material. It might recquire also 2(CO2) and not 2CO2. That would be (CO)(CO)2. I think that describes it. Math was never my fine point and the calculator on the "puter is hard to find. Any atomic physics folks out there?
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Post by docone31 on Jan 10, 2005 23:45:57 GMT -5
I was wrong. It is CeO2. It is made from nanocrystalline vapor. It is a vapor, and ionically condensed with O2. It is a nanocrystalline structure that condenses up to 10microns in size. It does go back to (CeO)(Ceo) Or Ceo2 rather than 2Ceo small 2.
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Post by cookie3rocks on Jan 10, 2005 23:56:43 GMT -5
All righty then. Cerium oxide is my polish of choice., ie: COe2, CO2, CeOe2, little E Big C yada yada yada, and then they were polished cookie
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Post by creativeminded on Jan 11, 2005 13:34:02 GMT -5
I was at first using the polish I got with the stage package I got from mamas minerals, and then I started using Cerium Oxide. I love the results I got with the cerium oxide, I am sure the aluminum oxide works great for some stones, however, I tumble mixed batches and the CO works the best, especially with the rose, green, white, and clear quartz. You can view my results here andy321.proboards16.com/index.cgi?board=Pictures&action=display&thread=1104173628Tami
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Post by krazydiamond on Jan 11, 2005 18:31:01 GMT -5
sorry guys and gals, i've had really mediocre results with Cerium Oxide....as an overall all purpose economical polish for harder stones i use Aluminium Oxide. for softer stones or a really nice looking batch i push the boat out and go for Tin Oxide or Titanium Dioxide, i've had real good results with those, but kinda on the pricey side. i spent 9 bucks on Chrome Oxide for a batch of jade and it didn't do SQUAT. and it was messy. now that i have started running the polish cycle longer, i seem to be getting better results despite the type of polish i use.. ;D KD
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momma
starting to spend too much on rocks
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Member since December 2004
Posts: 183
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Post by momma on Jan 11, 2005 18:58:07 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. It looks like I might have to go and buy a little of very polish just to be on the safe side. Everyone has such great pictures that IM afraid to even try what I have since my last batch didnt even polish at all. I wish someone knew about Lustrite II and what kind of rock it polishes. I will look for it online somewhere and I'll let ya all know just in case someone else needs it or has it.
Creativemind- you have really nice rocks. I am tumbling Agates and I hpe they turn out looking good.
momma
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