oriongal
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Post by oriongal on Mar 3, 2008 15:45:53 GMT -5
Okay, so mine are definitely well-used, don't think I'll get too many comments about mine being too clean... <grin> Lot-O Single, from front:  Single, from side:  Lot-O dual, from front:  From side:  The base they come on might not hold up well to drilling/bolting, and you'd also want to be sure not to disturb the dowel that you see under the metal strips, just at the back of the housing from the side view (it's a load balancer). Hope that helps... |
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L.L.
starting to spend too much on rocks
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Post by L.L. on Mar 3, 2008 16:03:22 GMT -5
Does the double back tape actually hold this thing? It sure seems like it wouldn't hold very long with all the vibration. I was going to drill the base so I could use concrete screws.
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Post by captbob on Mar 3, 2008 16:33:36 GMT -5
Tumbler clean-up on aisle 5 ! I'm making it harder than it needs to be, but that's just the way I am... You mentioned that you want it up off the floor L.L., so I'd make a form and pour concrete into it. Concrete weighs 150 pounds per cubic foot. You could make it 12" x 12" and 4" deep giving you well over the 40 pounds that it says you need. 4" should give you around 50 pounds and 3.5" would give you just over 40 pounds. Depends on your mix... I (being anal) would drill 4 holes, 1 in each corner of the base of the tumbler to mount it. In the concrete form, I would sink 4 eye bolts (eye down and don't get cement on the exposed threads) to go thru the 4 drilled holes.  Make a template out of cardboard if you need to to get them in the right spot. Once everything sets, you could use wingnuts and a washer on each corner to hold the tumbler. This way, you could move the tumbler by just undoing the wingnuts when you wanted/needed to. I have a couple of my shop machines attached to wooden bases using this method, just with bolts and not eyebolts.  Personally, I would also put a rubber mat between the concrete and the tumbler for noise reduction. But remember, I never do anything the easy way...  Edited to add: PLEASE tell me the base on those Lot-Os isn't partical board! |
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oriongal
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Post by oriongal on Mar 3, 2008 17:00:37 GMT -5
So far, the adhesive has held mine just fine - the single has been in use since early summer last year, and the dual since late summer (with a few breaks while I was traveling this fall/winter). Haven't heard anyone else say that theirs has let go.
The Lot-O's are fairly quiet and what noise mine has made wouldn't have been reduced by having anything between the tumbler and concrete base. Between the concrete base and the floor or wherever else it is put, yes - but it adheres to the base well enough to vibrate the concrete itself (vs. vibrating against the concrete) so I don't think it would make any sound difference. It might also reduce the action, damp the vibrations a bit too much.
The base it comes with is also not metal, it's sort of a veneered pressboard. I don't know how well holes drilled in that might hold up under the constant vibration - even if sleeved with metal, the holes might well tear themselves apart over time.
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oriongal
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Post by oriongal on Mar 3, 2008 17:03:16 GMT -5
Sorry, cap'n, it is something like that, yes. Still seems to hold up just fine all the same, though. I have to say, I wasn't impressed with the way they look when I first saw one - but I definitely can't argue with the results they give.  |
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Post by connrock on Mar 3, 2008 17:05:30 GMT -5
I mounted mine on four 10"concrete building blocks.One on top of the other which brings the unit to the right height for me to work with. This is the type of block I used.  Clean the concrete floor VERY good with no lumps and or bumps,grease oil,etc. Give the floor 2 coats of latex outdoor house paint. Clean both "open" sides of 3 cement block and 2 flat sides of one block give the open surface a coat or 2 of the same paint on 2 blocks and the flat sides of one block. Put 1 block down on the floor and trace around it with a black marker. Using clear silicone,make a 1" "bead" inside the traced mark on the floor.Set the block in the silicone and kind of swoosh it from side to side while pushing it down. Check to make sure it's level and repeat this process until you have the 3set and add the 4th block with the flat sides facing up and down. Mount the unit to the top block as per the directions. Make sure you clean the floor and blocks VERY good with a stiff brush to get rid of the concrete dust. Make sure the column is level in both directions. Let this set for a day or so before you use it. connrock |
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Post by captbob on Mar 3, 2008 17:06:41 GMT -5
Not sure I'd do the drilling holes thing in particle board... if the adhesive tape works, go with what works (until it doesn't!)
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Post by Jack ( Yorkshire) on Mar 4, 2008 4:06:34 GMT -5
Hi all Here is my Lot "O" set up  I just heaped up a few concrete blocks 4" X 9" X 18" and placed a old Kerb stone on top painted it and stuck the Lot "O" on it when the paint had dried out . Simple and works a treat Jack Yorkshire UK |
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Gem'n I
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Post by Gem'n I on Mar 8, 2008 13:32:03 GMT -5
Before I would start drilling the base....you might consider using "C clamps " on the base in the open holes of the concrete blocks...they work just fine. Also I use a home made clamp to keep the top on the barrell....mine had a way of popping off and making a mess (a metal strap...two springs...two "s" hangers)...I don't have a digital camera...so I cant take pics....Sorry....Larry
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Post by puppie96 on Mar 8, 2008 13:44:37 GMT -5
I know the subject of vibe tumblers has come up time and time again, but I can't seem to find an answer to my question on any of the previous threads. After deliberating for quite a while on whether to get a UV-10 or a Lot-O I've finally decided to go with the Lot-O. My question is now whether to get the single barrel version or the Lot-O-Twin. From what I can find out they both seem to use the same motor so I am wondering whether or not the double barrel version is as reliable as the single. Hi, I am here on a drive by right now so I haven't read the other responses. Sorry if this is repetitive, but I have the double barrel model, I love it, it's been running continuously for ? 2 years maybe? It makes it really nice because you can have different stages going all at once. I purchased a third barrel for exclusively polishing, but you could keep one of the two as an always polish barrel and the other for grit. Only drawback is that these puppies hold a lot of rock and both sides have to be loaded when you run it, sometimes it's hard to keep it fed. However, you can always just fill a barrel with completed rocks and water just to have something in the barrel and that does the trick. Shawn at the Rock Shed talked me into Lot-O when I was about to buy another type and I am so glad that he did. |
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Post by puppie96 on Mar 8, 2008 13:52:30 GMT -5
OK, more -- about the mounting -- I was going to attach it to concrete block of some sort but changed my mind and stuck it to the floor in the corner of the basement laundry area. I am glad I did. It really isn't a problem not having it higher up. There's not enough to do with its maintenance to cause a problem with bending over or anything. I just keep a jug of water next to it so it's easy to add water when I need to. The sticky tape has held for all this time just fine. I did read someplace to avoid spilling water where it seeps under the base because that will loosen the tape. I've had absolutely no problems and I suspect that you are best off attaching it to a solid floor like I did, for a couple of reasons, not the least of which is that I suspect that this is the quietest performance you'll get.
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L.L.
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Post by L.L. on Mar 8, 2008 14:24:22 GMT -5
I think I'm going to go ahead and put it down on the floor, but even though it is concrete I'm still going to have to make a slab to get it up an inch or two, maybe just a concrete stepping stone just to get it right off the floor. Right now I have a bit of a water leakage problem in my shop when it rains and the floor gets wet right where I want to put it. I know the particle board base wouldn't hold up long sitting in puddles of water, and since it's rained so much this week I have wet spots alll over out there.
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Post by deb193redux on Mar 8, 2008 14:31:24 GMT -5
The floor is a problem if you want to ever take it out somewhere. I did nto intend this when I bought the unit, but I ended up bringing it to several kids fairs, and two grade school classroom.
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L.L.
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Post by L.L. on Mar 8, 2008 17:40:32 GMT -5
Yeah, I figure that's another reason to still put it on a seperate slab even if I put it on the floor.
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Post by puppie96 on Mar 8, 2008 20:11:45 GMT -5
Since the slab has to weigh so much to be functional, I realized that sticking it on a slab wouldn't improve the portability, really. I figure if I need to move it I will try to loosen it from the floor by allowing water to seep under, which I have read will unstick the tape. I'm sure I could always get more of the tape, if nothing else it should be easy to get from either Shawn who I bought it from or directly from the guys who make them.
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Post by L.L. on Mar 8, 2008 20:49:10 GMT -5
I think I'm going to make a couple of brackets like this to hold the unit in case I want to move it around later.  |
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daman
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Post by daman on Mar 11, 2008 11:45:50 GMT -5
How loud is the the lot-o-tumbler. I currently have a minisonic and a raytech. There is a definite difference in the loudness of these two. I am looking at getting a l-o but I don't want it to be real loud.
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Post by L.L. on Mar 12, 2008 0:46:52 GMT -5
I finally got the Lot-O mounted. I went ahead and just used the double back tape. Now I just need a batch of rocks to finish the rough grind so I can actually try it out. I thought I would have a batch of amethyst and citrine ready, but they needed a few more days in the rotary. I might get to try it out one of these days. I hate a having a new toy around that I haven't even played with.
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Post by puppie96 on Mar 12, 2008 2:24:54 GMT -5
Just for experiements you can always throw some rough rock in there. I do this sometimes like a sneak preview. It won't do much to improve the rocks but it does take some of the dull outer layer off and give you a better look.
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Post by connrock on Mar 12, 2008 6:30:30 GMT -5
Hey Pups,,,,
Bein 5'-8" and weighin near 1/8th of a ton gettin down to the floor and back up agin is kinda like a giraffe bending down to pick up a dime with his teeth!
If I didn't have the unit mounted on blocks I'd be doin that "giraffe thing" all the time!LOL
connrock
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