carloscinco
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Post by carloscinco on Oct 18, 2009 19:52:35 GMT -5
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stoneviews
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Post by stoneviews on Oct 18, 2009 20:39:01 GMT -5
Nice looking stones, I like your quarter too, Arizona!!
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carloscinco
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Post by carloscinco on Oct 18, 2009 21:09:25 GMT -5
I'll be in Arizona on Wednesday, peering into the depths of the Grand Canyon, via Las Vegas. A first me and I'm looking forward to it.
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Post by montanamuskrat on Oct 18, 2009 21:49:17 GMT -5
Nice stones, good color. More pictures when you polish them. Debby & Tom
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Post by Toad on Oct 18, 2009 21:53:59 GMT -5
Really nice, wherever they came from.
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stoneviews
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Post by stoneviews on Oct 18, 2009 23:12:11 GMT -5
Cool, I hope you have fun, it's a great place to just sit back and take it all in.
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Oct 18, 2009 23:46:18 GMT -5
Very nice stones. Those are probably ' Rainflower Pebbles" a nodular form of agate similar to bots and lakers from Nanjing, China. I've been seeing them at shows last few years. Wonder if there were a few bots mixed in though. Most Chinese agate I've seen tends more toward Laker like colors of reds, whites, oranges etc, not the purple grays but maybe they've got both there because it is an alluvial agate deposit probably with agate from several different deposits. Also, your bot looking examples appear to have rougher surfaces similar to bots which come straight form the matrix rather than the stream rounded smooth forms usually seen from China....Mel
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carloscinco
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Post by carloscinco on Oct 19, 2009 7:19:18 GMT -5
I've got numerous "Rainflower Pebbles" but this material is different. It was the surface and remains of matrix on some that looked so much like Botswana material. The windows showing the banding, shadow and the color on some was the icing on the cake. Some of the agates were stream worn. A few were orange or had hints of green within. Some were waterline agates which I hadn't seen in a Bot yet. Thanks, Carlos
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NDK
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Post by NDK on Oct 19, 2009 19:01:33 GMT -5
Very cool!
Nate
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rockdewd
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Post by rockdewd on Oct 20, 2009 16:20:46 GMT -5
Interesting. Makes me wonder if some of the bots I have are from China...
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Post by frane on Oct 20, 2009 19:28:30 GMT -5
I don't care where those are from, they are really pretty! I think I like the one in the 3rd picture best that kind of looks like a flower! Fran
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Post by Bejewelme on Oct 23, 2009 8:59:35 GMT -5
Who cares where they are from, they are freaking cool!!! I love bots, love banded agates, now I want chinese agates!!!Wahhhhhhhhhhhh Amber
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bouldergal
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Post by bouldergal on Oct 25, 2009 18:06:08 GMT -5
I'm with Amber on this......I don't care where they're from either. I want some, too!!!!! Susan
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elementary
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Post by elementary on Dec 11, 2011 20:32:37 GMT -5
I was running through Carlos' history looking for Zapata agates when I saw this posting.
I heard a story recently that might add a different spin on this.
At a show a while back I was talking to a vender who has a lot of connections and we wound up talking about Bots for a few minutes. I said it was annoying that they only export semi-polished stones now. He indicated that I should watch for sources coming from China. He said Botswana brought in a large amount of Chinese construction companies to do infrastructure work and that these groups exported quite a few barrels of unworked Bots back into China.
I have no other source other than this dealer, but it was an interesting conversation.
As Rod Serling said so well: For your consideration...
Lowell
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peachfront
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Post by peachfront on Dec 12, 2011 10:24:05 GMT -5
What Lowell said. Nice stones, very nice, but it frustrates me when the actual source gets forgotten or intentionally distorted because the group that exported the barrels may, or may not, have done so in a legal fashion. Not that I can talk, since the actual source of so many of my stones was forgotten/lost through death of the original owners, since I got most all of my rough from various estates...It does affect the value of your stones when you can't be sure of the source though.
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Post by johnjsgems on Dec 12, 2011 16:33:00 GMT -5
Daniel posted some pretty nice "bots" a while back he cooked up somehow. I'm guessing China can jazz up rocks to look like bots too.
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agatemaggot
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Post by agatemaggot on Dec 12, 2011 19:19:56 GMT -5
There was a party in Southern Iowa selling these on E-bay, said they came from the Yellow River. The Agates they had were about the size of a Quarter or larger and looked like Yellow Lakers. The price they asked was about 3 times what Bots were bringing . They looked great but a little rich for me.
You have some nice looking Agates there, nice score !
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carloscinco
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Post by carloscinco on Dec 12, 2011 19:31:25 GMT -5
They polished up really nicely. Thanks for the clue as to the potential source for these agates. I'm inclined to believe that story with little other proof than the Botswananess of the agates. Olive gray matrix, purple brown agate with bright white forts. It's a small world.
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