bendsum
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Post by bendsum on Jan 28, 2011 23:46:07 GMT -5
found this on another board someone has bought the rights to HP and are making new saws and replacement parts check em out www.hplapidary.com/
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Post by catmandewe on Jan 29, 2011 0:26:41 GMT -5
I wouldn't jump on that band wagon yet. Wait and see how this plays out.
Tony
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highplainsdrifter
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Post by highplainsdrifter on Feb 6, 2011 12:33:21 GMT -5
they're running an ad is this month's Rock&Gem, pg.79. the web-site listed below is given, $2200 for an 18" saw, they are also at tucson rgl show at 1201 n. main, would be interesting to see how these look in person, www.color-wright.com
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Post by jakesrocks on Feb 6, 2011 12:45:01 GMT -5
Since they're being made in China, I doubt if they'll be of the same high quality as the original H.P. machines. Don
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Post by Woodyrock on Feb 6, 2011 19:22:36 GMT -5
I had a look at them during the Q Pow Wow. The sheet metal is a wee bit thinner, and there is no viewing window, or light in the hood. One new feature is the replaceable insert in the feed screw nut. That is a very real improvement, and one that should be looked into if you have an old HP with worn out nuts. All parts on these new machines are interchangeable with old HPs. The company building the new HPs is an American company located in China. They are making other machine tools as well as the lapidary tools. All in all, the quality is pretty close to the original HPs Woody
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cabjunky
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Post by cabjunky on Feb 8, 2011 14:20:25 GMT -5
I saw these saws in person at the Tucson show, and was impressed with the quality of the saws, and the improvements made to the saws as previously mentioned in this post. They had ten imported for the Tucson show, and all were sold out by thursday of the first week of the show. I think these saws will prove out in the long run, and they have all of the replacement parts for your older saws, without going through diamond Pacific.
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jcinpc
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Post by jcinpc on Feb 8, 2011 16:55:58 GMT -5
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Post by catmandewe on Feb 10, 2011 1:00:52 GMT -5
The company is saying that they bought the rights to the HP name, but Diamond Pacific who acquired it years ago say they didn't sell it to anyone. Looks like a good saw and for a very reasonable price, but not sure if it will continue or not.
I tried to buy a used HP 24" yesterday, but the price was higher for the used one than for a new one! Go figure.
Interesting to see how this plays out...............Tony
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Post by Roller on Feb 10, 2011 11:19:56 GMT -5
I wonder if they will just stick to saws or start up with cabbing units again ..
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chromenut
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Post by chromenut on Feb 10, 2011 11:28:36 GMT -5
Looked like they were going to start with sphere machines, which I was hoping to see but they don't have any listed, only the cups and other parts.
As to color-wright, good luck with them. I've had nothing but problems trying to get my questions answered by them, finally just gave up. Hope you have a better experience....
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Post by deb193redux on Feb 10, 2011 15:27:24 GMT -5
I too found it hard to communicate with the guy at color-wright. I was just trying to get a ball park (say +/- $100) on what shipping a saw might cost, and after several rounds of messages, because he could not tell me +/- 50 cents, he refused to even help me get a general sense. Said it would just be speculation. Some people can be too literal.
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Post by deb193redux on Feb 10, 2011 15:34:28 GMT -5
I wonder if they will just stick to saws or start up with cabbing units again .. Would depend on what they bought. I think the NAME and the templates/designs might have somehow been sold separately. I would not be surprised to find that DP had gotten the NAME and license to make parts, whereas the new folks may just have purchased the actual templates. Could end up needing lawyers to sort out. The price does look good, but it gets a little less attractive when you realize it is w/o a blade and most saws in catalogs are priced with a blade. Still if it is solid and holds up like the old HPs, it looks like a reasonable deal. Because they have to crate it to ship it here from China, color-wright is not charging a crating fee to reship it in the states. That can also save a few hundred.
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cabjunky
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Post by cabjunky on Feb 10, 2011 22:47:19 GMT -5
The people at color-rite still had not weighed one of the saws in the crates when I was there, which is the reason why they don't want to speculate on the shipping cost. All of the saws that they imported for the show were sold in the first week, and hauled away on trailers. They are now back-ordered aproximatly six weeks. I am considering one of the 24" models, at a third of the price of a diamond pacific, and withoutthe $400.00 crating fee, you can have it shipped, buy numerous blades, rough, and oil.
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spicer m
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Post by spicer m on Feb 10, 2011 23:16:11 GMT -5
I talked to the owner of The Highland Park Lapidary Co John Rowland at Quartzsite POWO. Asked Him how he could use the HP name. He said no one has used it for years so he regesterd the name. He said He bought a 18" & 24" used saw and reverse engineered them. and as Wodyrock pointed out he improved the replaceable insert in the feed screw nut. He is located in Texas and has them built in China. He said He just shiped a 18" saw from Texas to Oregon and the cost was $500. I also thought the quality was very good. E-mail jrowland19@yahoo.com Phone 512-970-9092
Mike
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cabjunky
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Post by cabjunky on Feb 11, 2011 22:16:26 GMT -5
just bought a 24" saw from color-rite, can't wait to run some of the material I purchased in quartzite (Idaho rock shop) and tucson though it. Shipping from tucson to salt lake was $280.00. Someone locally has a used one listed for the same price that looks like its been through a frontal attack!!!! good luck selling it when a new one is the same price.
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Post by bobby1 on Feb 11, 2011 23:00:54 GMT -5
I talked to John Rowland at the TGMS show today and he says the parts that he has are essentially identical to the original and are interchangable. His saws look real good and the prices are super, too. Bob
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Post by Sherman Rowland on Sept 6, 2011 9:01:44 GMT -5
Hi Crossfirebusiness and Chromenut, At present we are not yet doing cabbing units - we're the little guys and we have to be very careful about what we do. We are bringing out a Highland Park style 14 inch slab saw and a brand new designed 10 inch saw with a full roller bearing carriage, power feed, full steel hood, a 'real' vise and dual capacitor motor later this fall. As agate cutters, this is the machine we've wanted for ourselves for years. To your point Chromenut, we did bring out a standard three head sphere machine and our new high speed three head sphere machine. We had a prototype of the high speed unit at QIA in January (I still have one prototype machine left for $2,000). The high speed machine can do 100-125 spheres a week using our diamond cups. It would take more than 35 standard machines to equal this production capacity - we know, we've run that many machines in our sphere cutting shop. Here's a link: hplapidary.com/category/101-sphere-machines.aspx
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deedolce
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Post by deedolce on Sept 8, 2011 2:41:27 GMT -5
Interesting! Care to give a ballpark figure for the 14 inch slab and new 10"?
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Post by mossyrockhound on Sept 9, 2011 14:28:32 GMT -5
At the 2011 Quartzsite show, they also had a bull wheel setup on a double arbor. It looked like it would stand up to some pretty good use. They were also trying to get a slab saw oil recirc/auto cleaning unit patented and ready for sale. I put my name down to get the info on these when they come out. I never heard anything and it's been over 8 months. Garry
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Post by deb193redux on Sept 9, 2011 18:24:49 GMT -5
industrial cleaning/recirculation units I have seen used centrifugal force - could you tell what this one was based on?
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