Don
Cave Dweller
He wants you too, Malachi.
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Post by Don on Apr 14, 2011 15:22:20 GMT -5
Specifically at one of the pay to dig mines. has anyone done this? did you feel that you got your money's worth? Is the conveyor belt option worth the extra money? My goal is to get a nice stash of carve-able sunstones for less money than what it would cost to buy them retail, and have some fun while I'm at it.
In surfing the web, I've come across two mines so far that offer fee digging: Dust Devil Mine and the Spectrum mine. does anyone have on hand experience with either of these? are there other mines to consider?
Thanks
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Post by Woodyrock on Apr 15, 2011 1:28:07 GMT -5
We have been to both, and satisfied with both. Summertime is hot! Conveyer was not running when we were there, but I have heard good things said about doing it, but both guys were heavy, and not really diggers. Basically, the more dirt you move, the more stones you find.
If you go cheap, which we will do next time we are there, walk for fifteen minutes away from the BLM parking area, then start looking. When you start finding good colour, and or schiller, start digging. The basalt layer will be a bitch to get through, but the paydirt layer will be worth the digging. If you have kids along, turn them loose with a bag to wander the sage brush. Woody
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turkeyvulture
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Post by turkeyvulture on Apr 20, 2011 11:12:54 GMT -5
Hmmm! Woodyrock, your idea sounds interesting. I might have to do that this summer. What tools will I need to get through the basalt layer? I've never done it before. Can you elaborate on "when you start finding color" for a newbie like me? Color of stones on the surface, or would you need to screen some of the surface dirt, or what? Thanks for any help you can give!
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Post by Woodyrock on Apr 23, 2011 1:22:59 GMT -5
Libbie:
First, you are either heat proof, or pretty tough to be doing the sunstone area in summer. It will be hot, so take plenty of water, and some kind of portable shade like a camping sun shelter.
Now, when I say find colour, what i mean is when you start finding sunstone that is not just clear like glass. Red, is the best, also the most rare. Sunstone with shiller is also good, and will make outstanding faceted stones. The 'shiller' looks like finely divided grains of bright copper in a layer in the stone. You may have to turn the stone over in your hand to see this, and when cut, it must be cut so the shiller layer is parallel with the top.
Once you have found an area with promise i.e. you find a lot of good colour, or shiller. You start digging. You will go through dirt for a while, then hit rock (basalt) The basalt has lots of cracks, so you just exploit them with a pick, wedges, and a big bar. When you break through the rock there will be a layer of yellowish sand under it. this is "paydirt" where you will find the most, and best stones. They have weathered out of the baslat where they formed. As you remove the basalt, you will see sunstone embedded in the rock.........no use trying to remove it, you will just break it. Sieve everything you dig out that will sieve. Quarter inch hardware cloth makes the best sieve, The frame can be 1 X 4 pine, and about 12 X 18 or a wee bit larger if you will be shaking by hand. You can go larger if you have a frame like a table with out a top to slide it back and forth on. Remember..........those who sieve the most dirt get the most stones.
If, you get lucky, you may find where some one else has broken through the basalt, and then, you can dig the hole out, and enlarge it...........do not tunnel under the basalt. It will bury you when it falls. Woody
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turkeyvulture
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Post by turkeyvulture on Apr 27, 2011 16:27:24 GMT -5
Great tutorial, Woody! Thanks!!
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SirRoxalot
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Post by SirRoxalot on Oct 24, 2020 14:04:53 GMT -5
An excellent write up! I happen to love moving rock; it’s nice to know there’s an alternative to the very expensive fee dig sites.
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Post by Toad on Oct 25, 2020 13:13:33 GMT -5
ZOMBIE!!!
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rockhoundoz
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Post by rockhoundoz on Oct 27, 2020 15:50:39 GMT -5
Libbie: First, you are either heat proof, or pretty tough to be doing the sunstone area in summer. It will be hot, so take plenty of water, and some kind of portable shade like a camping sun shelter. Now, when I say find colour, what i mean is when you start finding sunstone that is not just clear like glass. Red, is the best, also the most rare. Sunstone with shiller is also good, and will make outstanding faceted stones. The 'shiller' looks like finely divided grains of bright copper in a layer in the stone. You may have to turn the stone over in your hand to see this, and when cut, it must be cut so the shiller layer is parallel with the top. Once you have found an area with promise i.e. you find a lot of good colour, or shiller. You start digging. You will go through dirt for a while, then hit rock (basalt) The basalt has lots of cracks, so you just exploit them with a pick, wedges, and a big bar. When you break through the rock there will be a layer of yellowish sand under it. this is "paydirt" where you will find the most, and best stones. They have weathered out of the baslat where they formed. As you remove the basalt, you will see sunstone embedded in the rock.........no use trying to remove it, you will just break it. Sieve everything you dig out that will sieve. Quarter inch hardware cloth makes the best sieve, The frame can be 1 X 4 pine, and about 12 X 18 or a wee bit larger if you will be shaking by hand. You can go larger if you have a frame like a table with out a top to slide it back and forth on. Remember..........those who sieve the most dirt get the most stones. If, you get lucky, you may find where some one else has broken through the basalt, and then, you can dig the hole out, and enlarge it...........do not tunnel under the basalt. It will bury you when it falls. Woody Thanks for this excellent guidance! I've dug a time or 2 on the BLM area without great success (just wasted time messing w/ the hard rock) & now know why!
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