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Post by deb193redux on Jul 16, 2013 15:47:04 GMT -5
no way softball on a 7" tile saw. are you talking 10" tile saw? I only see those in overhead configuration, and I do not like those.
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yardrocks
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Post by yardrocks on Jul 17, 2013 6:19:39 GMT -5
well, I'm not sure what to do about the tile saw. I've not yet taken the drive into that research. any suggestions would be great. It does sound like a good idea to get a wet tile saw from a hardware store, maybe even use the blade it comes with to "trim" as much as the blade would last. when the blade says it's done, then replace it with a diamond blade. I purposely only buy already slabbed stones because I don't want to get into having this saw and that saw. I just want a saw that will trim as well as slice small rocks the size of a golf ball,.. maybe up to a softball size.. it appears a 7" won't do that I guess. I've only used a 6" lortone trim saw at the shop I have access to. Maybe I should just stay with that size? would love to buy a lortone or other nice trim saw, but since I'm gonna go with the Genie... I need to cut expense where I can. any suggestions would be greatful.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jul 17, 2013 7:13:51 GMT -5
If you get a tile saw, the blade they come with is diamond. It will do you for a long time. I just chose to upgrade the blade when I bought it and kept the blade it came with in reserve for emergencies. I can cut golf ball size, but not softball size. I'm glad I got the tile saw. BikerRandy is the one who recommended it to me and he showed me how to use it. I want a bigger saw, too, but this 7" will always have a use. It's quite good for trimming precabs/preforms.
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Jul 17, 2013 8:37:56 GMT -5
I've been looking at the K-N stainless rig as a possible replacement for my Genie. I really like it except I would add the light and have them put on genie Nova type wheels which I don't think you can beat. I've had my genie for a long long time. And I don't like the water pump system, the motors that burn up ( I'm on #3), the dumbass base that is not waterproof and has bowed like a rocking chair rocker, or the stupid detachable hoods which always seem to move all over the place. Everything on the Genie is expensive to replace. The stainless rig looks to me as if it would be a lot more trouble free as the base and hoods are one unit etc. I don't mind the overhead gravity water source as the spritzers, to me are somewhat unreliable, and unlike what some have said, give me a bath the entire time I'm working which in cold weather sucks.....Mel
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Post by deb193redux on Jul 17, 2013 9:09:23 GMT -5
Mel, it is just a little more to get the Lortone unit. I do think the the welding is not as good on the K-N Chinese copy. K-N does sell a nice 6 drip overhead system, and a tank on a stand. I would get that too.
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Post by deb193redux on Jul 17, 2013 9:17:13 GMT -5
well, I'm not sure what to do about the tile saw. I've not yet taken the drive into that research. any suggestions would be great. It does sound like a good idea to get a wet tile saw from a hardware store, maybe even use the blade it comes with to "trim" as much as the blade would last. when the blade says it's done, then replace it with a diamond blade. I purposely only buy already slabbed stones because I don't want to get into having this saw and that saw. I just want a saw that will trim as well as slice small rocks the size of a golf ball,.. maybe up to a softball size.. it appears a 7" won't do that I guess. I've only used a 6" lortone trim saw at the shop I have access to. Maybe I should just stay with that size? would love to buy a lortone or other nice trim saw, but since I'm gonna go with the Genie... I need to cut expense where I can. any suggestions would be greatful. Just do the math. The most a tile saw (or trim saw, i.e., it has a table) can do straight through is about 1//3 the blade. If the fork is favorably shaped you can roll it to get a max of 2/3 the blade. Softball's are 10+ inches! Do you mean baseball? You would need a 15" blade and good rolling. It is possible that if you could cut through 3" deep all the way aroun d(with a 10" blade) that you could then break the rock with a wedge because the middle 3-4 inches would not be that strong. However any rolling (especially rolling and breaking) does not give a clean surface. It only gives pieces that can be further blocked down to a size that can be done in a single pass. Some 7" tile saws have diamond blades that can't do anything hard. You can trim a few slabs and decide if it is worth using the blade it comes with. You can add a good $35-$45 blade and use that for a while. A long time trim-only, or as short as a few months if you are always rolling 3" rocks.
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majkjems
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Hi everyone. Evidently I haven't been here in awhile. Forgot I was a member already! Hello!
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Post by majkjems on Aug 20, 2024 13:28:15 GMT -5
sorry about the double post,... just curious on if anyone sees me or not. Newbie ya know. if it were my choice I would ditch the shop-for now- and buy the best machine to hone your skills on. The shop can come later, the experience and working the rock would be my priority. Best to ya whichever way you go!
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