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Post by Rockoonz on Sept 30, 2011 6:11:18 GMT -5
This is the saw I'm rebuilding for Erik. HP model M-2 14 inch saw. I got this saw awhile back along with some other equipment. Here it is after I took it from the shed. I have another one I have been using till the motor recently died. It's on a crappy plywood base so I thought I would build steel bases for both. I got my dimensions from my "identical " saw. Oopsie. The "identical" saw is 1 inch bigger in all dimensions. Oh well, I planned to build 2 bases anyway. With the help of much penetrating oil it came apart. And the tub glass bead blasted and painted. More to come as I clean it up and set it up. Lee
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Post by deb193redux on Sept 30, 2011 9:42:49 GMT -5
I love to see pics of steb by step rebuilds!
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electricmonk
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Post by electricmonk on Sept 30, 2011 13:54:26 GMT -5
Wow Lee, had no idea what you were in for, really appreciate your attention to detail Looking forward to putting it to good use though I wouldn't dream of rushing you, thats quite a project! Nice to see the pictures to compare with the finished product. Cheers! Erik
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Post by electricmonk on Sept 30, 2011 14:01:44 GMT -5
By the way, do you take requests on the color of the finished body? The wife voted for midnight blue
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Post by NDK on Sept 30, 2011 14:29:21 GMT -5
This is fantastic! Now I can look at very large pix of how a crossfeed is set up. Thanks Lee, keep the pix coming!
Nate
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Post by Rockoonz on Sept 30, 2011 16:24:54 GMT -5
Ha Erik, it's just like Henry Ford said you can have it any color you want as long as it's light machine grey, since I have several cans of it on hand. I glass bead blasted the carriage and crossfeed before work yesterday and the steel is cut for the table. I need to pick up caster wheels today. I plan to weld it together tonight. Nate, I'll take extra pics of the crossfeed and carriage. If building a saw from scratch I would be line-boring and using bronze bushings for crossfeed guides and a brass nut sandwiched between 2 flanges for the crossfeed screw. Replacable parts, relatively tight tolerances, sturdy material choice and easy disassembly for cleaning are all good things on a rock saw. HP did reasonably well with these.
Lee
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Post by grayfingers on Sept 30, 2011 17:06:28 GMT -5
Very impressive restore! I too enjoy getting to see "the guts" in detail, never seen a slab saw in person and really enjoy getting an idea of what goes into one!
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NDK
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Post by NDK on Sept 30, 2011 21:05:51 GMT -5
Thanks Lee. I can't line-bore, but my crossfeed vise seems to be going together fairly well. I'll be careful to get the carriage tight on the rails. That was/is one concern of mine. I don't want it binding.
Nate
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Post by Dicky the Rockhunter on Oct 1, 2011 7:17:41 GMT -5
That is a dandy project. looks fun. In your searches if ya run across a really good buy on a vertical vice like yours let me know. I am serriously considering changing to vertixal verses the horizontal one we have on our 18 inch now. Thanks Dicky
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Post by Rockoonz on Oct 1, 2011 11:45:19 GMT -5
Dicky, Sherman who is selling the new Highland park saws also sells parts. He may sell a vice that could be bolted to the top of your saw, but it will lift your clamping surface and lower the height of rock you can cut with the saw. My 18 inch hydraulic has a horizontal bar vice, I put thin wood strips above and below hard to clamp rocks and it helps. I hope to eventually build an "alligator jaw" type set of jaws for round rocks.
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Post by tandl on Oct 1, 2011 18:53:29 GMT -5
Looking good , Lee . Fun to watch the progress .
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Post by Roller on Oct 1, 2011 22:33:11 GMT -5
awesome and thanks for showing !
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Post by beefjello on Oct 2, 2011 11:17:24 GMT -5
This is shaping up great Lee! You folks that can do restoration projects like this really amaze me!
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Post by Rockoonz on Oct 3, 2011 16:38:05 GMT -5
Ready to begin reassembly, more or less. Got a base that it fits on, just need to attach caster wheels. Got the parts cleaned up. Now I just have to remember where they go I ordered the arbor bearings this morning ($$choke, choke OMG) I still need to get a v-belt pulley for the feed drive on the arbor shaft, it had a half round pulley and was driven by rubber cord that had been stapled to length. Lee
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Post by shermlock on Oct 3, 2011 16:40:06 GMT -5
This is a great thread!
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Post by NDK on Oct 3, 2011 20:04:25 GMT -5
Wow Lee, the parts look great. You sure put some elbow grease into those things!
Nate
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Post by electricmonk on Oct 3, 2011 20:17:09 GMT -5
That is a dandy project. looks fun. In your searches if ya run across a really good buy on a vertical vice like yours let me know. I am serriously considering changing to vertixal verses the horizontal one we have on our 18 inch now. Thanks Dicky Dicky, I emailed Sherman Rowland to get a price for a vise for a 20" saw. I have a Hillquist that I am not fond of vise wise so and I need to add a bit of height to the deck in any case, was thinking of just ordering theirs and bolting it onto my carriage deck...two birds, one stone and all that. Anyhow, here is the response he sent me, maybe it will be of use to you.
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Post by roy on Oct 4, 2011 0:18:36 GMT -5
nice job lee !
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Post by greaser on Oct 7, 2011 14:07:57 GMT -5
wow thats going to be a heck of a turn around from what you started with. nice job.
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Post by Rockoonz on Oct 8, 2011 11:17:50 GMT -5
Photos are deceptive, there was some rust but also a petrified rock snot layer that was about the same color as rust. Also, with a lot of these old saws, since they were saturated with mineral oil over years of use they don't rust too deep. Almost all the nuts and bolts came loose with no extra effort, not at all like restoring old cars (I have done that too).
I am also blessed to work in a shop that has walnut shell and glass bead blasters and a fully equipped tool and die shop. One of the titles I have there is back up tool and die maker so they let me use the shop in off hours, makes a job like this so much easier.
I should have the rest of the pics of the process up by the end of the week, gotta do the honey dos this weekend.
Lee
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