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Post by deb193redux on Jan 6, 2013 21:53:12 GMT -5
Phil: there are similar patterns on the other side, but not as distinct or separated.
Jim: I think you meant "calibrated" or some such where you said "preform" because even freeform pieces are preforms. It is not certain that I will stick to the symmetry when I cut. I always look at the overall balance and often include some asymmetries. Your suggestion that there is no "art" in template shapes is ludicrous. This is tantamount to saying there is no art to framing a 35mm photograph, or to working within the constraints of poetic rhythm or sonnet format. It is art to select an irregular outline to achieve a spectacular effect, and it is also art to seek the best composition within a template shape. It is also art to make stones small enough to fit into wearable pieces, as well as cabs large enough to be cabinet displays.
You are welcome to show a freefrom using one of the photos provided. I might agree with your choice, and try to cut it. Great art is often unexpected. But, IMO, any great "freefrom" will need to select and exclude parts of the slab as much as what I had envisioned. You have expressed and underscored a semi-vauge opinion. I welcome that. I like to hear opinions and critiques (too much mutual admiration here) - but reasoned and elaborated ones. Perhaps you can make you point visually.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 1:15:11 GMT -5
Ok, incorrect terminology on my part. I agree that there are all kind of art that we take for granted and I also agree that there is too much mutual admiration here. If I make s--t I want people to tell me I made poo poo or make suggestions as to how it might be improved. To me the art of doing calibrated cabs is getting the damn things perfect to fit in the round or oblong thingies. Too much precision for me. I tried to get Larry to do a freeform and did not get that accomplished either, If we were all the same there would be no reason to have this great forum and everyone would be bored to death. I have seen that "place a shape on the slab then move it to the side thing" but I have no idea how it is done. What program do you use for that. Maybe I should get it. Pretty cool and I imagine like flying an airplane, easy if you know how. I am sure that what ever you choose it will be beautiful and I am sure they will fit right into what it was cut for. But I would also have to say that whatever I made of it would not be ugly, just different. Jim
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Post by deb193redux on Jan 7, 2013 19:59:00 GMT -5
Jim, I use homegrown methods in PhotoShop. I think most of what I do would also be available in PhotoShop Elements. I also thin the free editor GIMP would work too, but I am familiar with Photo Shop menus and stick with it.
If pressed, you can also print images (try to get the ruler the correct size) and cut with scissors. Photograph and share your results.
I For ovals, rectangles, and some trapezoids, I just use select tools in PhotoShop. But for teardrops and rounded shields, I make a quick template by taking sections from a scan of a template. I can send you (or anyone) a PhotoShop file with multiple layers and templates and this image if you have access to PhotoShop.
I like symmetry, but I also like to go beyond the oval. Don't cut grandma's oval! I use the RTH templates with many many available shapes, but I often stick to just a few of the symmetrical ones. In the case of this slab, I actually marked the slab using a physical template, sliding it around and changing shape until it popped. I reproduced my choices in PhotoShop so I could share them here.
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Post by NM Stone Supply on Jan 11, 2013 9:56:51 GMT -5
Daniel, That is a great slab and I can't wait to see some finished cabs from it. Your photoshop tricks are cool. Jason
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Post by robsrockshop on Jan 11, 2013 19:04:34 GMT -5
Nice. I may have to come over and see that lol. Havn't been doing too much in the way of rocks lately dads really been taking up some time. I'll bring some rainbow obsidian and you can show me how to cut up.
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Post by deb193redux on Jan 11, 2013 19:27:49 GMT -5
Visits welcome. Sad to hear the issues with you dad continue. Be warned, the shop does run a bit cold. The kerosene heater only can help so much.
I have not fussed with rainbow very much. With all obsidian, the tip is to cut across layers at 5-10 degree angle. If you want a bullseye on rainbow cabs, you cut a bit less than 5%
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