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Post by gr on Mar 4, 2013 21:27:49 GMT -5
Dang Nancie, looks like you've been cutting dirt clods! Lol A dirty saw is a happy saw ;D
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RockIt2Me
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Post by RockIt2Me on Mar 4, 2013 21:34:50 GMT -5
Dang Nancie, looks like you've been cutting dirt clods! Lol A dirty saw is a happy saw ;D My saws are happy-happy!
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Post by Rockoonz on Mar 4, 2013 21:47:48 GMT -5
My first guess for the red sludge was a thunderegg batch. Red rhyolite gets a saw nasty in a hurry. Quite often if I leave for a few days and the saws sit idle I just get a bucket and putty knife and scrape most of the thick settled out snot into the bucket to reclaim, then add oil to bring it back up to operating level.
Lee
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Post by Peruano on Mar 4, 2013 22:30:34 GMT -5
Lee, If I hear you correctly, you don't try for a clean oil pan just a cleaner one. You are removing the sludge from the bottom and leaving some oil and residue and topping it up to keep going. I was tempted to do that but there's something pleasing about looking into a clean vat of oil. I recently cut a bunch of rhyolite and that apparently pushed me over the edge. When the top of the drips stayed elevated versus immediately blending into the surface layer, it was obviously time. I had started with 3 gallons in the saw, and once everything grunge and oil were in the paper bags filtering, I was able to catch about 1.5" of oil in a 5 gallon bucket in 24 hrs, another 1/2" in the next 24 hrs, and its going slower now. That 2 " of oil probably was about 1/2 of what I needed to achieve my working 3 gallons. I must admit, the saw seems happy now that it's "cleaner" (not necessarily clean). I'm leaving for Africa for a month in two days so the residue of oil in the sludge bag will have plenty of time to seep out while I'm gone. Yes I'll try to bring a rock or two, but airline baggage requirements being what they are, I'll limit my collections to symbolic ones.
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quartz
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Post by quartz on Mar 4, 2013 22:47:13 GMT -5
Methinks this might qualify as a "mud saw".
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RockIt2Me
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Post by RockIt2Me on Mar 5, 2013 7:06:29 GMT -5
Methinks this might qualify as a "mud saw". My saw takes exception to that...
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Post by The Dad_Ohs on Mar 5, 2013 8:40:44 GMT -5
Surely there must be a commercial use of rock puddin'? Place it into a press let it sit for 40+ yrs and then sell it as the new version of Gary Green.. call it Butt ugly brown !!!!
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Post by Rockoonz on Mar 6, 2013 0:04:47 GMT -5
Tom, Yep, just cleaner. They only get a thorough cleaning when they need repair.
Lee
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Post by RockIt2Me on Mar 6, 2013 7:05:04 GMT -5
Lee: That's why I was holding off for warmer weather. The bolts that hold the front of my vise assembly are leaking oil. I want to gasket and caulk the area in hopes of slowing down the seepage. Last summer I replaced the hood hinges with a HD piano hinge, made a rubber gasket and some quality caulk and eliminated that leak. I know it will never be leak free, but I like to take care of favorite saw.
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Post by Rockoonz on Mar 7, 2013 0:09:51 GMT -5
My saw loads up if i let it gets that dirty(Covington 18 inch).I recently switched to kerosene and it is cheap and cuts very well.Just stinks bad. We bought some rock this summer from a guy who used to cut with kerosene. Got it cheap because of all the soot and whatnot from his rock shop burning down. :2cents: Lee
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 19:26:43 GMT -5
I hope to buy a saw this summer. I wonder if anybody utilizes the dead space under the vice?
Put an appropriate size "milk crate" or similar but a pillowcase inside it and at the start of every cutting session use a putty knife to scoop the rock snot into the pillow case, the oil pours out back into the saw 90% clean. Then the pillow case gets close to full pull it out and turn inside out over your trash can. Replace pillow case and lather rinse repeat.
This apparatus would sit in the dead space and be available to partially filter the oil once a day or week or month or whenever you decide to do it. The oil will have more consistent viscosity for more consistent cutting. The oil would never need replacement but simply topping off periodically.
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Post by NM Stone Supply on Mar 8, 2013 10:21:12 GMT -5
Ha Ha I think Chuck has us all beat. Here is my dirty saw. Red from Rhyolite. This is my new old saw that may look like the other after it runs all weekend.
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Post by phil on Mar 8, 2013 11:33:32 GMT -5
I hope to buy a saw this summer. I wonder if anybody utilizes the dead space under the vice? Put an appropriate size "milk crate" or similar but a pillowcase inside it and at the start of every cutting session use a putty knife to scoop the rock snot into the pillow case, the oil pours out back into the saw 90% clean. Then the pillow case gets close to full pull it out and turn inside out over your trash can. Replace pillow case and lather rinse repeat. This apparatus would sit in the dead space and be available to partially filter the oil once a day or week or month or whenever you decide to do it. The oil will have more consistent viscosity for more consistent cutting. The oil would never need replacement but simply topping off periodically. Wouldn't work in my saws. They sling a lot of oil everywhere when working that the pillow case would always be soaked with oil.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 15:37:00 GMT -5
Wouldn't work in my saws. They sling a lot of oil everywhere when working that the pillow case would always be soaked with oil. Of course. You need a little more oil in the saw to account for the pillowcase absorption volume. I see no other downside. But I've never owned a saw. So, what's the downside?
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cherdarock
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Post by cherdarock on Mar 19, 2013 3:38:59 GMT -5
You TAKE that sludgy ol' cuttin' mud, and you GO MUDDIN'! YEEHAWWWW!
Seriously tho, if your working your saw with that kinda paste, when you DO clean it, check all the contact moving parts. When you cut, you get slabs, AND ABRASIVE SLURRY. Them pictures show ABRASIVE MUD, and that makes abrasive CAKE as the oil drains back down to the sump.
Oh, clean that mud with solvents, and use as pre-polish for tumbling. GRADE IT! if you cut lotsa agates and quartz, excellent pre-polish material.
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cherdarock
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Post by cherdarock on Mar 19, 2013 3:42:16 GMT -5
OH! DO NOT PUT ANY KIND OF PILLOW CASE OR OTHER FABRIC IN YOUR SAW, BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN.
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