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Post by phil on Jun 22, 2013 19:26:20 GMT -5
I've been trying to use ebay's turbolister to make up some listings offline then load up when ready. I'm on a dialup, so doing them while connected isn't an option.... Is there any other software that allows you to create your listings offline then upload when ready? I'm ready to dump TL, it just doesn't work.
Thanks! Phil
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Post by NM Stone Supply on Jun 22, 2013 23:02:48 GMT -5
Phil, Not any that I know of. Everything these days is connected via wi fi or internet high speed connection.
Good luck though.
Jason
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Post by doneall517 on Jun 22, 2013 23:44:21 GMT -5
I use inkfrog for some of my ebay listing. I would never use a ebay listing service again. They were totally a pain to work with. You can work on inkfrog and set the time and days that you want to list and they host photos for the auctions or buy it now listing. Price in marginal and very easy to use.. I agree with Jason, look into a faster internet connection as well.. Mike
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2013 23:55:14 GMT -5
Phil;
This post is a concept only. Please take with several grains of salt. Halite that is.
ANY advertisement can be composed offline. The ads are text. Microsoft word works if that is what you like. I use Notetab. It is a powerful text editor that replace notepad in windows. It used to be free but is cheap at $20............
Compose the ad in any format you desire. Text only is best......... html in the text editor is better...............
Then highlight, copy to clipboard, sign into ebay (or other listing sight), get into your listing....... , copy/paste into the correct field and you are a selling mutha-F.....
I hope I haven't offended. Not my intent. Just playin' around late on a Saturday nite. You totally can do this. Compose, open ebay, paste and selllllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Easy peezy, buck's-oneezie! My email is in my profile. Hit me up privately and I will put you on the path. I can do this one. I cannot tell you how to find high end agates. I can tell you how to sell them from your machine!!! lol [smile]
Seriosuly, I am 100% your guide. Let's do this!
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Post by phil on Jun 23, 2013 12:25:59 GMT -5
Thanks Scott. yeah, I can do that. And I do. But you still have to fill in those ebay specific fields like type, when, how, etc. Description is the easy part. It's after I get all that done that ebay has a problem. And I have found out what the hang up is... Doesn't matter if you have plenty of money in their paypal account to cover costs and fees, unless you allow them open and full access to your bank account or credit/debit card, you're evidently out. So... I guess I need to get one of those throw away debit cards to link them to, they sure aren't getting free access to my regular bank account or card! Thanks! Phil
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Post by doneall517 on Jun 23, 2013 12:36:49 GMT -5
The listing service I use is perfect for me and cost around $15.00 a month and I can have thousands of photos hosted there as well for the auctions. If one has the ability and time to create auctions in a note pad or excel form then wonderful go to it. I have around 350 listings and that would never work for me.. Good luck Phil-Ebay has a lot of new rules with picture size being the one that has caused some problems with a lot of sellers. Mike
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Post by Rockoonz on Jun 23, 2013 13:50:25 GMT -5
Not sure how a debit gift card will work for you, I think you need a card number and a bank acct. number for a seller account on ebay. Opening an account specifically for ebay is how we did it, since we are registered in our state as a business we got a free biz acct. at a credit union. We don't sell on ebay anymore, fees are too high, but we still do paypal so the acct is still open.
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Post by phil on Jun 23, 2013 20:20:16 GMT -5
Thanks. yeah after checking on several forums I go to, Ebay has lost it's luster.... That leaves me Amazon and ? ? ? Do things sell well on Etsy? Are there any other sites I should consider?
Thanks again everybody. Phil
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Post by doneall517 on Jun 23, 2013 22:05:43 GMT -5
good or bad Phil..ebay gets the most traffic and sales..none of the others are even close at this time (I wish there was one). If you want to judge how some of the other sites do, look at the sellers feedback-a nice way to see if they are selling..I not sure what your selling. I sell one of a kind collectables and also have a web store hosted by Highwire (no advertisement intended). I hope to migrate all from ebay some day soon but that appears to be in the future. Ebays fees are high but I still make money selling there..but then sell something in an live auction and compare the fees. The internet is a neat and exciting menu to sell on. In 1998 I sold an item from the middle of our almond farm in California to a buyer in Asia. It was a McDonalls Happy meal tooth bush. I was hooked..My opinion and my opinion only..to date, for all the hoops one has to jump through-ebay is the best online auction site for sales--and I look forward to weaning myself some day from ebay. just ain't going to happen soon if I want to continue selling items on the net.. just my humble feelings and I look so forward to the day that someone comes up with the next ebay.. Mike
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2013 23:04:50 GMT -5
ebay is a 90,000# gorilla. Too expensive, but they know they are the shiznitt. I will be quitting paypal forever very soon, though. I had a guy make a bogus complaint and wanted partial refund of $35 and they took the entire transaction cost of over $500 from my account. Holding $500+ hostage over a $35 complaint is BS. I offered the guy full refund upon full return of the product and he bailed.
I got my dough, but........... sheesh!!
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Post by Rockoonz on Jun 24, 2013 0:47:23 GMT -5
With ebay and paypal conflict resolution it's innocent even when proven guilty for buyers and Guilty as sin even when proven innocent for sellers.
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Post by phil on Jun 24, 2013 11:45:56 GMT -5
SO I guess the choice is to go Amazon?
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Post by QuailRiver on Jun 24, 2013 23:58:26 GMT -5
I first started selling on eBay in 1997. The first few years were great! I had very good sales numbers back then, and got some good deals too. All at reasonable fees and with courteous U.S. and Canadian eBayers. But after eBay went public and sold stock they became a different creature that in my opinion has evolved into a monster. It was bad enough when eBay changed focus from being an auction site for antiques and collectibles to promoting themselves as an "Online Flea Market" which drew in the junk dealer's and riff raft importers. But then they went International and allowed Chinese Crooks to soil the nest of the very sellers who helped eBay to become successful in the first place. (I've got a shoe box of fake Chinese turquoise bought from Chinese eBayers to prove it). Also I'm astonished at some of the things the Feds have let eBay get away with. Especially as it pertains to Pay Pal. I don't think any Bank or Credit Card Company could have gotten away with the unjustness and bullying that eBay/Pay Pal seems to. For several years after going public, eBay treated their seller's with absolute disrespect and contempt. Not until their profit numbers have started taking a hit more recently have they again started pretending to give a crap about the sellers. But yet that still didn't stop eBay from starting to charge 10% final value fees on shipping costs too. So when a seller sells and item and only charges the actual shipping costs, then that seller automatically loses 14% (including the 4% Pay Pal fees) of shipping costs out-of-pocket. If the seller ads the 14% onto the shipping costs then the customer feels like they are getting gouged and the seller risks taking a hit on their customer satisfaction rating for S&H on eBay's Dash Board star rating system. Which can then cause the seller to lose his/her seller rating which results in the seller having to pay eBay even higher fees. Ebay has gotten so huge that it would take someone with endless resources to ever start-up an online auction site to compete. Not counting advertising costs, imagine the legal costs to avoid getting crushed in the barrage of legal infringement claims eBay's legal team would stack on them. But if a company like Microsoft, Amazon or Yahoo were to open an internet auction site tomorrow. I believe seller's would leave eBay in droves. I'd also bet eBay's stock would drop 25% the first week. I despise what eBay as a company has become. But unfortunately for now, they are the only real game in town.
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Post by parfive on Jun 25, 2013 1:47:46 GMT -5
“But if a company like Microsoft, Amazon or Yahoo were to open an internet auction site tomorrow . . . “ Amazon started an auction site in 1999 to compete with eBay. I used it regularly for a few years – had some excellent book dealers. The Amazon traffic could never match eBay and it just faded away and died by maybe 2006 or ’08.
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Post by QuailRiver on Jun 25, 2013 12:07:54 GMT -5
I didn't remember Amazon having an auction site, but I do remember Yahoo trying one. But that was all before eBay went rogue. Most of the older eBay sellers feel very differently about eBay today than they did in 1999.
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Post by lparker on Jun 25, 2013 16:32:03 GMT -5
I have an eBay store - rockdude68 - not getting rich with it, but it's giving me something to do once in a while. I started it in early February and this month made Top Seller status. So I'm selling stuff, just not high end stuff.
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Post by phil on Jun 25, 2013 17:37:43 GMT -5
-snip- Ebay has gotten so huge that it would take someone with endless resources to ever start-up an online auction site to compete. Not counting advertising costs, imagine the legal costs to avoid getting crushed in the barrage of legal infringement claims eBay's legal team would stack on them. But if a company like Microsoft, Amazon or Yahoo were to open an internet auction site tomorrow. I believe seller's would leave eBay in droves. I'd also bet eBay's stock would drop 25% the first week. I despise what eBay as a company has become. But unfortunately for now, they are the only real game in town. yeah, I used to have a separate bank account that I kept a low balance in so if ebay decided to screw around, it wouldn't hurt too bad... Maybe I'll do that again. If I knew how to write the code that would compare with ebay's when it first started, I'd probably take a shot at it. Ebay started small, there's no reason someone else couldn't. I think if ebay's sellers knew/saw a site that works the way ebay used to before it became too big for it's britches, they'd swarm there in droves. And if they moved over, so would the buyers. But, that's not gonna happen. I have no idea how to write the code required, so we'll just have to wait till the next college student or group of students decide to take ebay down. Thanks! Still think I'll try Amazon....
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Post by deb193redux on Jun 25, 2013 18:25:25 GMT -5
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Post by phil on Jun 26, 2013 15:53:43 GMT -5
By Amazon, I mean selling on www.amazon.com yeah, but as you say, there are other auction sites out there, so ebay doesn't own a total patent. just the specifics for their site. Could be done.... just won't be me, dangit.
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Post by deb193redux on Jun 26, 2013 16:48:16 GMT -5
I am not sure sure those other auction sites did not license under ebay patent. But I think you confuse the technically possible with the remotely feasible. A well developed code with all of the necessary features is way past a few kids in a computer lab. It is serious software engineering with zillions of lines of code. This is why you thought pb developers could just "look" at code an easily fix you SeaMonkey issues. Here aside form coding there are legal issues and then it has to be on a server that has next to zero downtime. There are also law enforcement issues as there are many lawsuits and court decisions (some international) involving host liability in causes of auction fraud and/or counterfeit goods.
If it was so easy to do, a small venture capital effort would have been mounted, and it would have been done. A viable competitor to ebay is possible but it will be very difficult, expensive to startup, and take years to grow.
I understand how ebay policy can feel impersonal and how interacting with a large organization via online screens is yucky. (Don;t even get me started on t-mobile or Verizon customer support.)
But I think folks complain too much about ebay fees. If items were dropped off at a shop on consignment, in addition to risk of shoplifting, the price would likely involve 35% or larger for the shop. If sold to a retail shop at wholesale prices, you would get about 50% of retail. With ebay you get about 87% of retail - after 9% fee and 3% more for PayPal.
It sounds like you are going to register as a seller on Amazon. Exactly what are you going to sell? Finished jewelry? slabs?
The amazon fee for small sellers (< 40 items/mo) is $0.99 per sale (Plus some other selling fees). So any item less then $10.50 and the 9% fee on ebay is cheaper. More importantly you need to be considerably above %10.50 before the savings in fee is substantial. Does the $0.99 include the cc fees (I mean does it compare to ebay 13% with PayPal?). Then it item only has to exceed $7.60 to break even.
But what seller tools are there? And what category will you sell in? None seem to fit either jewelry or rocks.
Can someone tell me how much cheaper Amazon would be for selling twenty $25 pendants a month? Because I am not seeing it.
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