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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2013 16:47:06 GMT -5
Today in the guardianNot even the PM of GB's daughter can get a CCW in England. This guarantees to criminals all potential victims are unarmed. How convenient.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Sept 19, 2013 17:36:53 GMT -5
Welcome to Canada!! If you want to see what is and what will happen to your gun rights if the progressives get their way. Look north. Progressives never waste a good massacre.
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Post by jakesrocks on Sept 19, 2013 17:42:23 GMT -5
Total gun control = Total government control over its subjects. Only government agencies and criminals will be armed.
Notice, I said SUBJECTS, and not CITIZENS.
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Post by jakesrocks on Sept 19, 2013 21:21:29 GMT -5
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Post by Rockoonz on Sept 19, 2013 23:50:24 GMT -5
I agree. Total gun control only guarantees guns for criminals... and their secret service agents
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 0:11:18 GMT -5
A lib friend said the answer to gun violence is well enforced "gun free zones, just like the white house".
He is a good man and a friend. But I couldn't stop laughing at his inability to grok the fact the Whitehouse is far from gun free. When asked to explain, I did and he either is ignorant or willfully blind. He believes (or claims to) that within the confines of the white house, the secret service carry no weapons, at all. rofl
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Post by robsrockshop on Sept 20, 2013 9:31:54 GMT -5
The elite globalists in the US can stick their NWO gun ban up their asses. It will never work, too many of us will be up in arms over this. Everyone knows what these jackasses are up to. I still think we need to build a giant space ship and load them all in it and we can take that little bitch Piers Morgan and strip him down to nothing but a jock strap and duct tape him to the nose cone and we'll launch this pile putrid straight into the sun. Of course we might aim at a further distant star because that would be the biggest pile of shit exploding that's ever been known.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Sept 20, 2013 13:25:23 GMT -5
The elite globalists in the US can stick their NWO gun ban up their asses. It will never work, too many of us will be up in arms over this. Everyone knows what these jackasses are up to. I still think we need to build a giant space ship and load them all in it and we can take that little bitch Piers Morgan and strip him down to nothing but a jock strap and duct tape him to the nose cone and we'll launch this pile putrid straight into the sun. Of course we might aim at a further distant star because that would be the biggest pile of shit exploding that's ever been known. Rob those words sound really familiar. People all over rural Canada said the same thing. You will have the same problem as we had. The urban folks rule the show. (just like the last federal election you had)The big city people will vote it in and to hell with everyone else. Most people in the cities have no clue or care about the needs of the rural people. They are sheeple and will follow the mainstream media bullshit. Good luck and stop it before its to late. Remember every time a lunatic goes nuts with a gun. You will be one step closer to gun control. Just look at the navy rampage, the bodies were not even cold yet and the mainstream was crying about AR-15's.
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Post by robsrockshop on Sept 20, 2013 13:58:20 GMT -5
The elite globalists in the US can stick their NWO gun ban up their asses. It will never work, too many of us will be up in arms over this. Everyone knows what these jackasses are up to. I still think we need to build a giant space ship and load them all in it and we can take that little bitch Piers Morgan and strip him down to nothing but a jock strap and duct tape him to the nose cone and we'll launch this pile putrid straight into the sun. Of course we might aim at a further distant star because that would be the biggest pile of shit exploding that's ever been known. Rob those words sound really familiar. People all over rural Canada said the same thing. You will have the same problem as we had. The urban folks rule the show. (just like the last federal election you had)The big city people will vote it in and to hell with everyone else. Most people in the cities have no clue or care about the needs of the rural people. They are sheeple and will follow the mainstream media bullshit. Good luck and stop it before its to late. Remember every time a lunatic goes nuts with a gun. You will be one step closer to gun control. Just look at the navy rampage, the bodies were not even cold yet and the mainstream was crying about AR-15's. No, I realize what you're saying. They do it the same way with everything. Little by little. They'll start in the cities, next thing you know the .001% of us rednecks left with a gun will have the rest of the country convinced we should hand them in or face life in prison. Probably a tough choice to make coming up for many when it actually happens. So............has the gov't in Canada got worse since it took the guns??? I think bad things financially are coming to the US and they are wanting the guns prior to this. Anything can still happen i'm not one to say we've lost until it happens there's a pretty nasty core group of people with weapons in the US ready to stand their ground and im one of them.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Sept 20, 2013 14:26:52 GMT -5
They never took our guns. We had 3 choices. 1. Licence and register every long gun. Hand guns have always been a restricted firearm as long as I can remember. 2. Turn in arms if you do not qualify for licence. 3. Shut up and hide your guns. Which I and most people I know did.
The Conservatives have since abolished the long gun registry, but we still need a Firearms Acquisition Certificate to carry, purchase arms and ammo. All arms must be trigger locked while in storage ie: while not hunting or at the range. All ammo must be locked up in a different room. Gun racks in the back window are NEVER seen anymore. If you did, you would have a swat team all over you.
All though they say they destroyed the records. By some act of god, the RCMP knew which homes to confiscate the guns from when High River Alberta flooded. RCMP kicked the doors in after the evacuation and took all the guns. They have returned them after a big public outcry.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Sept 20, 2013 14:38:19 GMT -5
More about Canadian gun control. GUN OWNERS TARGETED IN RCMP SEARCHES: HIGH RIVER RESIDENT Watch the video. www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/gun-owners-targeted-in-rcmp-searches%3A-high-river-resident/2683168789001This is something that should have happened a long time ago. People in High River expressed loud and clear and then louder and clearer their frustration because they didn't know who would pay for the doors kicked in by the RCMP during the flood, along with the broken windows and other damage. Now we know. The province has decided to foot the bill. The RCMP will process the damage claims related to the forced entry of High River homes in the flood. There are about 1,900 claims and most are not processed. Once a claim is processed, it will be presented to the town of High River for payment and they will pay. The town will then submit the bills for the damages to the province as a recoverable flood expense. The province will pay the town and submit it as part of their flood claim to the federal government. A thinking person might figure since the Mounties are not on the hook for actually cutting cheques it will be easier of them to get these damage claims out the door. The result? Cheques will get to the people who need them and they will get them faster. By the way, the province does not have a dollar figure on the damages but it will be in the millions. Rick Fraser is the province's point man in High River. "This is one of those things frustrating for people in town. To alleviate the frustration we're going to cover those doors through our Disaster Recovery Program," says Fraser. www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/straighttalk/archives/2013/09/20130919-073721.html
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 14:39:28 GMT -5
My Canadian colleague buys one new rifle a year. Then he buys 1-10,000 rounds for it. Mostly never fired them. He considered it an investment. Prolly has 20 by now.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Sept 20, 2013 14:45:52 GMT -5
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Post by robsrockshop on Sept 20, 2013 14:49:12 GMT -5
Wow. Thanks for the info. So what was the motive for this? Didn't want desperate people in a emergency to have a gun or what? Sounds like the same stupid jerks in the US. They use all the excuses they can. So in other words they used the search as an excuse to find victims as the video says. Sad. And anyone thinking they got rid of the register is fooling themselves.
Ok......I gota go for now lol. Big weekend ahead. No offense........but im glad to see it happening elsewhere so we may have some sort of chance to show what happens.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Sept 20, 2013 16:00:54 GMT -5
Wow. Thanks for the info. So what was the motive for this? Didn't want desperate people in a emergency to have a gun or what? Sounds like the same stupid jerks in the US. They use all the excuses they can. So in other words they used the search as an excuse to find victims as the video says. Sad. And anyone thinking they got rid of the register is fooling themselves. Ok......I gota go for now lol. Big weekend ahead. No offense........but im glad to see it happening elsewhere so we may have some sort of chance to show what happens. LIBERALSThis is what started it all. For 45 minutes on Dec. 6, 1989 an enraged gunman roamed the corridors of Montreal's École Polytechnique and killed 14 women. Marc Lepine, 25, separated the men from the women and before opening fire on the classroom of female engineering students he screamed, "I hate feminists." Almost immediately, the Montreal Massacre became a galvanizing moment in which mourning turned into outrage about all violence against women. A new gun law that would have made it illegal for Marc Lepine to own the 30-bullet magazine he used in his massacre of 14 women takes effect on this Saturday in 1992. "Hmmmm! been hearing alot about this in the US." After the massacre at a Montreal university, students petitioned the government for more rigid gun control laws. To acquire a gun under the new law and at the time, Lepine would have had to prove he was older than 16 and had no criminal record and he would have had to check a box on the Firearms Acquisition Certificate indicating he was not mentally ill. Though penalties for possession are more severe with the new law, the gun Lepine used is not on the banned list. For this reason an NDP justice critic thinks the law is not strict enough. • Heidi Rathjen, a fourth-year engineering student at the time of the massacre, started the École Polytechnique petition in December 1989. It demanded stricter laws preventing possession of military and paramilitary weapons. In a matter of months Rathjen had collected 500,000 signatures. • In 1978 Parliament passed legislation requiring a Firearms Acquisition Certificate be filled out before purchasing a rifle. Politicians who thought more could be done heatedly debated the legislation. In the end, NDP leader Tommy Douglas said, "Half a loaf is better than none … I believe that someday we will have the techniques to register all guns." • No Quebec member of Parliament opposed Bill C-17 when it passed in the House of Commons. However, five provinces and Canada's three territories did not concur, opposing the act before the courts. Much of the opposition came from hunters and farmers who used rifles. They couldn't understand why the bill didn't target handguns but went after rifles, which were used in less than seven per cent of violent crime involving firearms. In 1999, handguns were used in 75 per cent of gun violence. Ten Myths About Gun Control Al Smithies, Research Director, CSSA 1. �VERY FEW PEOPLE IN CANADA OWN FIREARMS� Exactly the opposite is true: twenty-nine per cent of Canadian homes possess an estimated total of nine million firearms. Other authorities insist that even this figure is too low, and that there is at least twenty million firearms in Canada. The UN reported that Canada ranks third among the developed western countries (behind the United States and Norway) in the civilian ownership of firearms. There is an average of three firearms in every gun-owning Canadian household. The majority of gun-owning households in Canada own rifles and/or shotguns; on a per capita basis, Canadians own nearly as many rifles as Americans. Canadian firearm owners tend to be predominantly male, slightly older than average but with a higher than average income. Wildlife hunters are more likely to be �blue collar� workers or farmers, while handgun owners tend to be �white collar� professionals. Canadians own firearms for target shooting, gun collecting and wildlife hunting; socially innocuous sport and recreational pursuits that generate substantial economic benefits. Canadian target shooters spend at least forty to one hundred million dollars annually on competition-related tourism. Wildlife hunting, the overwhelming majority of which involves firearms, contributes six billion dollars and thirty-three thousand jobs to the Canadian economy every year. It is a recreational activity practised by over 20% of Canadians (excluding aboriginal Canadians). 2. �CANADIANS WANT MORE RESTRICTIVE �GUN CONTROL� LAWS� On the contrary: more than 90% of Canadians do not believe that stricter �gun control� laws are a solution to violent crime, and two-thirds of Canadians believe that passing more severe laws over legitimate gun owners will have very little influence on criminals. Eighty-eight per cent of Canadians favour severe penalties for crimes involving firearms; only 8% favour increasing restrictions over existing firearm owners. Eighty per cent of Canadians do not support the confiscation of firearms from legitimate gun owners. Ninety per cent of Canadians believe that citizen compliance with mandatory firearm registration will be minimal. Two-thirds of Canadians believe that using a firearm in self-defence is justified. Support for more �gun control� dramatically decreases after the Canadian public is informed about existing firearm laws. More here. www.cdnshootingsports.org/tenmyths.html
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Post by Mark K on Sept 21, 2013 19:43:08 GMT -5
Eventually, if, I say, IF they ever come for the guns, whoever does the actual collecting/seizing of the guns will be named publicly and eventually someone will get them at their house. Wrong or not, their family will probably be attacked right along side of them. It would be a cold day in hell when I would want to be the one stealing the guns from the citizens.
Another possibility is that one house will be in the process of being ransacked and the neighbors will have a heads up and the officials who walk out the door with the guns might not make it to the sidewalk. It would be a cold day in hell when I would want to be the one stealing the guns from the citizens.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Sept 21, 2013 20:53:29 GMT -5
Eventually, if, I say, IF they ever come for the guns, whoever does the actual collecting/seizing of the guns will be named publicly and eventually someone will get them at their house. Wrong or not, their family will probably be attacked right along side of them. It would be a cold day in hell when I would want to be the one stealing the guns from the citizens. Another possibility is that one house will be in the process of being ransacked and the neighbors will have a heads up and the officials who walk out the door with the guns might not make it to the sidewalk. It would be a cold day in hell when I would want to be the one stealing the guns from the citizens. You folks bring back so many memories. I remember back in the pre gun control days. All the people were ranting and raving about the government talking about gun control. The bumpers stickers were everywhere. " It will be a cold day in hell before I give up my guns!" or " They will have to pry my cold dead fingers from gun before I give it up!. Yep the Liberals got the last laugh. And they slapped us in the head with gun control. OPEN your eyes people they are not going to go door to door taking your guns. They are mot that stupid. They will wait for the right time when you did something wrong. Your kid has a few friends over and 2 of them start fighting. The police are called and your son gets charged with assault. Now there is a potential criminal living in your house. Sir we have to confiscate your guns. By law sir your have failed your back ground check now that you are harboring a possible criminal and he might get access to you guns. Only took 3 cops and one house down and more to follow. The progressives could give a rats ass about your constitution. They will faze it in so slowly you won't even feel it until its to late. Oh the good old days of gun racks, Sunday gopher hunts or just heading out to the dump to shoot bottles. Yep never though I would be one of those old guys that say. I remember when!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2013 23:16:22 GMT -5
Billy, I must come to Canadia. We must share some beverages and your local cuisine. The fancy part is "I am allowed to bring my shotgun". I called the Canadia consulate about a possible hunting trip and she said at least a dozen times "you can bring your shotgun".
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If that was ever in question I would not be considering a hunting trip!
She musta felt guilty or sumthin'. Apologetic for the anti-human liberals removing folks ability to protect themselves in the event of the need arising.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Sept 23, 2013 23:43:12 GMT -5
Billy, I must come to Canadia. We must share some beverages and your local cuisine. The fancy part is "I am allowed to bring my shotgun". I called the Canadia consulate about a possible hunting trip and she said at least a dozen times "you can bring your shotgun". lol If that was ever in question I would not be considering a hunting trip! She musta felt guilty or sumthin'. Apologetic for the anti-human liberals removing folks ability to protect themselves in the event of the need arising. Scott that could be arranged. Though its a little late in the year. But next fall not a problem. It would would also give me more time to spotting and such, Great goose and duck hunting around here. So many whites all you need is a white suit and a roll of paper towels for decoys and you will limit out. We are in the middle of a major migration route. Seen about a dozen American plates today.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2013 13:17:33 GMT -5
Billy it's on for 2014 fall migration!
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