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Post by captbob on Jun 3, 2017 18:47:24 GMT -5
No official word yet on just who the perpetrators of this latest attack in London are, but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that it wasn't the Amish. Quote from London's muzzie Mayor... Yeah, just part of big city life. Get used to it.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 3, 2017 20:49:21 GMT -5
No official word yet on just who the perpetrators of this latest attack in London are, but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that it wasn't the Amish. Quote from London's muzzie Mayor... Yeah, just part of big city life. Get used to it. I'm so sure that quote is comforting to the victims. /sarcasm
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Post by gemfeller on Jun 4, 2017 1:05:46 GMT -5
They're just celebrating Ramadan, per instructions from ISIS to kill Christians during the month wherever they may be. If you'd like to put the meme that Islam's the "religion of peace" to the test, just read the Koran. And familiarize yourself with the term dhimmitude. I am not an Islamophobe but when it comes to radical Islamists who are preparing to kill me and my countrymen, I keep my powder dry.
I predict (very sadly) we can probably expect similar random attacks here in the U.S. before the June 24 end of Ramadan.
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Post by captbob on Jun 4, 2017 13:40:04 GMT -5
I'm SURE that there are still LOTS and LOTS of good people in the UK. WHEN are they going to take their country back from the PC types? WHAT does the body count need to reach before they are willing to "fight them on the beaches" once again? WHERE is the line crossed that the good majority tells the PC minority. "piss off, enough is enough!" ? Canada ain't far behind - www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/24/canadian-parliament-passes-controversial-islamophobia-motion/oooooh, we mustn't upset the muzzies! They are the religion of peace™... (where is the vomit smiley thing?) Ignore the murders. Ignore the rapes. Ignore the female mutilation practices. Ignore the sharia law. I could extend this list considerably and much more graphically ... Ignore, ignore, ignore! run and hide! OOPS THAT
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Post by spiritstone on Jun 4, 2017 17:49:56 GMT -5
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Post by captbob on Jun 6, 2017 0:41:21 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 17:30:30 GMT -5
Just brought home a G23 Gen 4. Haven't shot it yet. But I will!!!
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Post by captbob on Jun 6, 2017 17:53:35 GMT -5
I didn't know people still bought .40cal handguns! 10 round mags in Cali? Ya'll allowed to conceal carry out there?
Get shootin'!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 18:36:10 GMT -5
I didn't know people still bought .40cal handguns! 10 round mags in Cali? Ya'll allowed to conceal carry out there? Get shootin'!! Yeah 10 rounds. 45 too hot for this newbie and 9mm too whimpy for the sheriff to issue CCW. CCW in my county is doable and takes 7 months. With the congressional reciprocity mandate on the horizon, I may just get the Utah one and start carrying. Time will tell. Shooting this weekend.
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Post by aDave on Jun 6, 2017 19:43:06 GMT -5
I didn't know people still bought .40cal handguns! 10 round mags in Cali? Ya'll allowed to conceal carry out there? Get shootin'!! Yeah 10 rounds. 45 too hot for this newbie and 9mm too whimpy for the sheriff to issue CCW. CCW in my county is doable and takes 7 months. With the congressional reciprocity mandate on the horizon, I may just get the Utah one and start carrying. Time will tell. Shooting this weekend. Don't get me started. 9mm is more than adequate, especially with improved bullet technology over the years. This would be in my wheelhouse. Rocks are not, as I'm still learning. .40 is a great round. Wanna start a gun thread? I'm all in. Dave
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Post by coloradocliff on Jun 6, 2017 20:12:36 GMT -5
OH Crap.. The penguins.. I am Sorry.. Running, looking over shoulder, pants wet, cying. Allah save me!! never mind !!
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Post by Sabre52 on Jun 6, 2017 20:38:34 GMT -5
Yeah, 9mm technology has improved to the point where 9mm is plenty good for stopping power and you can carry 18 rounds or more in the mag as long as you are in Merica and not some fuggin furrin place like Commiefornia. Sheriff in Ventura County CA issued almost no CCWs. Here in Texas, it's super easy to get one cause after all, this IS America! Nobody messing with your ammo supply either.
That being said, I do love my Springfield 40's when out walking with the dang hogs. Really fond of the grip safety feature when reholstering and they all fit my hand super well. Lately though, I've redeveloped an interest in wheel guns. I do brass exchange and it's just so much easier not to have to hunt brass when some of them pistolas throw it all over heck. Just got some semi custom ammo for my big Webley. Get to shoot it tomorrow for the first time. Hundred years old so I hope I keep all my fingers. I'm always intrigued that a gun is one of the only machines that keeps on ticking for way over a hundred years.....Mel
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Post by aDave on Jun 6, 2017 21:11:40 GMT -5
Yeah, 9mm technology has improved to the point where 9mm is plenty good for stopping power and you can carry 18 rounds or more in the mag as long as you are in Merica and not some fuggin furrin place like Commiefornia. Sheriff in Ventura County CA issued almost no CCWs. Here in Texas, it's super easy to get one cause after all, this IS America! Nobody messing with your ammo supply either. FWIW, there's been quite a change in the stance the VC Sheriff, and many folks are getting their CCW now where it was previously much harder. "Stopping power" is a myth, no matter what round is used. Placement is key...especially with handgun ammunition. Dave
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 21:38:00 GMT -5
Yeah, 9mm technology has improved to the point where 9mm is plenty good for stopping power and you can carry 18 rounds or more in the mag as long as you are in Merica and not some fuggin furrin place like Commiefornia. Sheriff in Ventura County CA issued almost no CCWs. Here in Texas, it's super easy to get one cause after all, this IS America! Nobody messing with your ammo supply either. FWIW, there's been quite a change in the stance the VC Sheriff, and many folks are getting their CCW now where it was previously much harder. "Stopping power" is a myth, no matter what round is used. Placement is key...especially with handgun ammunition. Dave Look. I'm going by the wishes of the man who signs off on the CCW
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Post by aDave on Jun 6, 2017 21:46:13 GMT -5
FWIW, there's been quite a change in the stance the VC Sheriff, and many folks are getting their CCW now where it was previously much harder. "Stopping power" is a myth, no matter what round is used. Placement is key...especially with handgun ammunition. Dave Look. I'm going by the wishes of the man who signs off on the CCW He's mandating caliber?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 21:52:12 GMT -5
Look. I'm going by the wishes of the man who signs off on the CCW He's mandating caliber? Not so exactly. But says he won't permit 9mm... I'll have to look it up. I can handle the 40 Smith so no issues. Need to look into liability of handloads used in self defense
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Post by aDave on Jun 6, 2017 21:55:05 GMT -5
Not so exactly. But says he won't permit 9mm... I'll have to look it up. I can handle the 40 Smith so no issues. Need to look into liability of handloads used in self defense Wow. Interesting. Nothing wrong with the 9mm in a competent, factory round. Don't use handloads for self defense. It's not a liability issue. It relates to testing after the fact if you ever get involved in a shooting. We can talk more in detail off-line and over the phone.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 21:59:16 GMT -5
Not so exactly. But says he won't permit 9mm... I'll have to look it up. I can handle the 40 Smith so no issues. Need to look into liability of handloads used in self defense Wow. Interesting. Nothing wrong with the 9mm in a competent, factory round. Don't use handloads for self defense. It's not a liability issue. It relates to testing after the fact if you ever get involved in a shooting. We can talk more in detail off-line and over the phone. And that testing goes to liability. I had a feeling. I'll find an accurate factory load in an efficient configuration.
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Post by aDave on Jun 6, 2017 22:10:57 GMT -5
It's not liability in the sense you simply used a hand-loaded round. In all fairness, that doesn't really make a difference.
What comes into play is the ability to replicate the round if you ever get involved in a shooting. There's simply far too many variances in a hand-loaded round when you're doing them at home. Why is that important? If you have a particular story about what happened, the ammunition may come into play with how it stippled at close range, for instance. At least with a factory round, there are some inherent expectations the round will perform the same way every time. With hand-loaded rounds, you might be fighting an uphill battle when it comes to performance and the evidence that it leaves with each round fired.
For your gun, I'd be looking at Winchester Ranger T or Federal HST in 180 grain. Both are superior self defense rounds.
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Post by Sabre52 on Jun 7, 2017 7:51:52 GMT -5
Best ammo to use in self defense is the same ammo your local police use. That way there's no gripe about you using "special" man killer handloads. Your argument would be, if it is a good round for the police to use to protect themselves, it should be good enough for you too.
Heck placement is important no matter what kind of shooter you use. How's that old saying go? "Two in the heart, one in the head, makes damn sure he's good and dead" Shooting someone in the little toe obviously ain't a man stopper.
I find 40's are a bit snappier in recoil and a bit harder to shoot than 9mm's, especially in double taps. I think that's why most PD's are returning to 9mms. Plus, those extra big maxi-magazines in the nines. Three mags is almost sixty rounds......Mel
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