dreamrocks
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Post by dreamrocks on Jul 27, 2019 6:49:12 GMT -5
This might not be in the right thread but anyways. I have started cabbing again and I have both blue and gold tiger eye and I can not get the eye to lineup the way it should. Could someone tell me what I am doing wrong. I cut it North- South but I get Zorro instead of a eye should I cut in East-West direction instead? I have better material with out so much iron in it. Thank you
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Post by greig on Jul 27, 2019 8:17:02 GMT -5
The sign of Zoro on that cab. ;-)
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Post by rmf on Jul 27, 2019 9:44:23 GMT -5
dreamrocks If you want the "cats eye" to go along the long azis of the stone cut north and south and if you want the axis to go across the short axis of the stone cut east and west. That said there is one more thing you need to look at. That is the edge of the slab to see how the fibers are moving. What gives Tigereye the chatoyance is caused by fibers that were originally asbestos and then it is metamorphosed and more silica is cooked in and the silica replaced the asbestos ("fossil" asbestos if you would). So how the fibers zig and zag through the stone is what causes the "eye". this is where a template on top and bottom work well because the back where you mark the stone may not be the same fiber configuration as the front. Usually the fibers are at an angle and you have to take that into account for the front of the stone. The second thing is your cut, by the look of it, it is a typical dome cabochon. Due to the continuous arc from the top of the cab to the girdle of the stone you will be cutting through fibers that zig-zag. That is what is causing the "z". To get a ore straight line you may want to go to a buff to cab where the top is a low angle and the sides are 10-15 deg angle off of 90 deg ( as in / \ ). Beyond that it is just playing with it till you get it right. One more thing diamond wheels cut faster than Silicon Carbide (SiC). Tigereye is one of those stones that is hard to get a good polish on at the very top of the stone with SiC if you cut across the fibers. This is due to the slowness and dullness of the SiC cutting. This is where diamond out shines SiC big time. It cuts faster with less pressure and does not pull the fibers of the tigereye. This is a bigger problem on low dome and larger stones. The stone in the image appears to be 14x10 to 18x13 so SiC does good on this size in a nice dome like yours. BTW nice stone. Hope this helps.
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dreamrocks
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Post by dreamrocks on Jul 27, 2019 15:58:25 GMT -5
dreamrocks If you want the "cats eye" to go along the long azis of the stone cut north and south and if you want the axis to go across the short axis of the stone cut east and west. That said there is one more thing you need to look at. That is the edge of the slab to see how the fibers are moving. What gives Tigereye the chatoyance is caused by fibers that were originally asbestos and then it is metamorphosed and more silica is cooked in and the silica replaced the asbestos ("fossil" asbestos if you would). So how the fibers zig and zag through the stone is what causes the "eye". this is where a template on top and bottom work well because the back where you mark the stone may not be the same fiber configuration as the front. Usually the fibers are at an angle and you have to take that into account for the front of the stone. The second thing is your cut, by the look of it, it is a typical dome cabochon. Due to the continuous arc from the top of the cab to the girdle of the stone you will be cutting through fibers that zig-zag. That is what is causing the "z". To get a ore straight line you may want to go to a buff to cab where the top is a low angle and the sides are 10-15 deg angle off of 90 deg ( as in / \ ). Beyond that it is just playing with it till you get it right. One more thing diamond wheels cut faster than Silicon Carbide (SiC). Tigereye is one of those stones that is hard to get a good polish on at the very top of the stone with SiC if you cut across the fibers. This is due to the slowness and dullness of the SiC cutting. This is where diamond out shines SiC big time. It cuts faster with less pressure and does not pull the fibers of the tigereye. This is a bigger problem on low dome and larger stones. The stone in the image appears to be 14x10 to 18x13 so SiC does good on this size in a nice dome like yours. BTW nice stone. Hope this helps. Thanks it's a 18x13 I do and use two templates for the reason you talk about I also use it when I have a stone that may not be even or chunks or chips in it the 2 templates are needed to center the stone. I have cut about 5 of these and everyone had a z on them some were smaller with a lower dome. This one I stopped to find out what I am doing wrong I have done everything right far as lining up the eye. I was thinking maybe the next stone I am going to try putting angle away from the eye and see what happens. I took it outside in the sunlight it's even more intense of a z Its stones like this I use every time 2 templates this one and a few others I tossed in the vibe to smooth up rough edges
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dreamrocks
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Post by dreamrocks on Jul 27, 2019 16:17:53 GMT -5
The sign of Zoro on that cab. ;-) Touche
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Post by HankRocks on Jul 27, 2019 20:09:01 GMT -5
dreamrocks If you want the "cats eye" to go along the long azis of the stone cut north and south and if you want the axis to go across the short axis of the stone cut east and west. That said there is one more thing you need to look at. That is the edge of the slab to see how the fibers are moving. What gives Tigereye the chatoyance is caused by fibers that were originally asbestos and then it is metamorphosed and more silica is cooked in and the silica replaced the asbestos ("fossil" asbestos if you would). So how the fibers zig and zag through the stone is what causes the "eye". this is where a template on top and bottom work well because the back where you mark the stone may not be the same fiber configuration as the front. Usually the fibers are at an angle and you have to take that into account for the front of the stone. The second thing is your cut, by the look of it, it is a typical dome cabochon. Due to the continuous arc from the top of the cab to the girdle of the stone you will be cutting through fibers that zig-zag. That is what is causing the "z". To get a ore straight line you may want to go to a buff to cab where the top is a low angle and the sides are 10-15 deg angle off of 90 deg ( as in / \ ). Beyond that it is just playing with it till you get it right. One more thing diamond wheels cut faster than Silicon Carbide (SiC). Tigereye is one of those stones that is hard to get a good polish on at the very top of the stone with SiC if you cut across the fibers. This is due to the slowness and dullness of the SiC cutting. This is where diamond out shines SiC big time. It cuts faster with less pressure and does not pull the fibers of the tigereye. This is a bigger problem on low dome and larger stones. The stone in the image appears to be 14x10 to 18x13 so SiC does good on this size in a nice dome like yours. BTW nice stone. Hope this helps. Ok, every time I read about how to cut Tiger's eye I get more confused. Terms like North and South, East and West don't mean much to me looking at the rough. Does anyone have a video or pictures on the best way to cut tigers eye? Thanks
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Post by rmf on Jul 28, 2019 13:00:11 GMT -5
@hankrocks I was using North-South and East-West based on dreamrocks first two images in this post. I would have to defer to others for a video.
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Post by pauls on Jul 28, 2019 16:39:05 GMT -5
The simple answer is the more of the fibres you can get parallel with the dome the better. Any end of fibre will be just dark.
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