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Post by hummingbirdstones on Mar 20, 2020 21:09:43 GMT -5
Just had some interesting news. My grandson's best bud's mother is sick. She went to the dr. She was told to go home and self isolate. Not sure what that really means. Does that mean she has the virus, is at risk for the virus or just keeping an eye out for the virus. Those 2 boys practically live together and my grandson was at my place all day yesterday. She has 4 kids. Wouldn't they all be at risk, if they sent her home to them? She must not have the virus, but what do I know?
I would think they suspect it's the virus. Otherwise, there's no reason to self isolate. They sent her home because she's not ill enough to hospitalize. Anyone who has been near her has already been exposed to it.
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reynedrop
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Post by reynedrop on Mar 20, 2020 21:56:21 GMT -5
Most medical staff are NOT busy during this time. Hospital staff- yes. But clinics, no. The clinic I work in is seeing half patient load right now, and we may be asked to close, too. I’m not sure what use a dermatologist and dermatology-certified technicians / MAs and LPNs would be in this case. Emergency medicine and probably pulmonology will be most needed. If your speciality isn’t needed, you may not even know how to best help. I’ve already volunteered unpaid time off. I’m fortunate; husband’s job can be done remotely and he makes a good amount. We do not have kids. I figure, keep those with kids and no spouse employed as long as possible. Husband and I can work through this better than many families can. All of this has now cancelled my honeymoon. In just over 3 weeks, we were supposed to be in Mexico. Now we may be out $5k (hopefully we can get refunds). I’m really not pleased, as we have no idea when we can even take a honeymoon now, but 🤷🏻♀️ Everybody is making sacrifices now. I have to roll my eyes a bit at everybody complaining at having their kids home. I know I’m a bit jaded and biased, but honestly? Don’t have kids if you aren’t happily willing to care for them in times of crisis. I know there are nuances here, but in general, this is 100% what you agreed to if you intentionally had a child. Buck up and let your child feel loved. The more you complain about having them around, the shittier they feel. Tears me up a bit. Cant speak for others but I'm thrilled to have daughter home from school until at least 4-19. And more than happy to step in as teacher while off school. However, I think those that express frustration at kids being home from school for extended period of time likely stems from kids not having an outlet to burn energy and just be a kid. Imagine owning an active playful dog that normally has a big yard to play in and then locking it in a crate for most of the day. Dont matter how much u love that dog, wont take long for the dog to start driving u up a wall with its barking, whining, scratching and anything else it does to get your attention for u to let it out so can resume its normal life. Kids can act the same. Especially when at the age where they get amusement at irritating you. Dogs need freedom to be a dog and run and play and smell things. Kids need time to interact with other kids their age. And outlet to burn energy. When u get a dog u know what it entails to raise it but doesnt mean u wont or shouldnt want to just let it out in the backyard for a while and leave u alone for a bit.. just my 2 cents I’m not talking about the people who just express concern for their child’s social well-being or disdain for the disruption to normal schedule. I mean I’m literally hearing people ACTUALLY complain about being “forced” to spend time with their grade-school-aged kids. Like being a parent is a burden to them. There a difference between “I am sad for my children” and “I’m pissed for myself.” At the psych hospital I used to work at, those parents made up probably a fair portion- where they just actively resent their kids. I saw what that does to the kids and thinking about the kids now that are getting that vibe makes me really sad. We do send our dog to daycare because we believe that socialization and playtime is good for him. It’s sucks for him when daycare closes, but I also know that when I agreed to adopt him, I agreed to care for him in whatever capacity he needs. A lot of parents I know are treating this like a huge inconvenience and not a crisis. When we are in an actual crisis, it’s just not the time to act like having your kids at home puts you out so much. I’m over all the memes about how they want to expel their kids or give them detention or whatever, like it’s SO hard to parent their kids for three days. (FWIW, I also know many people who want to be parents but have not been successful in pregnancy, have lost multiple pregnancies including past the point of viability. I come from that place here)
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oldschoolrocker
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Post by oldschoolrocker on Mar 20, 2020 23:02:33 GMT -5
Cant speak for others but I'm thrilled to have daughter home from school until at least 4-19. And more than happy to step in as teacher while off school. However, I think those that express frustration at kids being home from school for extended period of time likely stems from kids not having an outlet to burn energy and just be a kid. Imagine owning an active playful dog that normally has a big yard to play in and then locking it in a crate for most of the day. Dont matter how much u love that dog, wont take long for the dog to start driving u up a wall with its barking, whining, scratching and anything else it does to get your attention for u to let it out so can resume its normal life. Kids can act the same. Especially when at the age where they get amusement at irritating you. Dogs need freedom to be a dog and run and play and smell things. Kids need time to interact with other kids their age. And outlet to burn energy. When u get a dog u know what it entails to raise it but doesnt mean u wont or shouldnt want to just let it out in the backyard for a while and leave u alone for a bit.. just my 2 cents I’m not talking about the people who just express concern for their child’s social well-being or disdain for the disruption to normal schedule. I mean I’m literally hearing people ACTUALLY complain about being “forced” to spend time with their grade-school-aged kids. Like being a parent is a burden to them. There a difference between “I am sad for my children” and “I’m pissed for myself.” At the psych hospital I used to work at, those parents made up probably a fair portion- where they just actively resent their kids. I saw what that does to the kids and thinking about the kids now that are getting that vibe makes me really sad. We do send our dog to daycare because we believe that socialization and playtime is good for him. It’s sucks for him when daycare closes, but I also know that when I agreed to adopt him, I agreed to care for him in whatever capacity he needs. A lot of parents I know are treating this like a huge inconvenience and not a crisis. When we are in an actual crisis, it’s just not the time to act like having your kids at home puts you out so much. I’m over all the memes about how they want to expel their kids or give them detention or whatever, like it’s SO hard to parent their kids for three days. (FWIW, I also know many people who want to be parents but have not been successful in pregnancy, have lost multiple pregnancies including past the point of viability. I come from that place here) Yeah, I cant wrap my head around any parent that finds any aspect of parenting more inconvenient than a blessing.Sadly, it's all too common these days. I wrongly assumed you were speaking of ppl just venting about the disruption to their routine and such.
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pizzano
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Post by pizzano on Mar 21, 2020 0:15:16 GMT -5
I’m not talking about the people who just express concern for their child’s social well-being or disdain for the disruption to normal schedule. I mean I’m literally hearing people ACTUALLY complain about being “forced” to spend time with their grade-school-aged kids. Like being a parent is a burden to them. There a difference between “I am sad for my children” and “I’m pissed for myself.” At the psych hospital I used to work at, those parents made up probably a fair portion- where they just actively resent their kids. I saw what that does to the kids and thinking about the kids now that are getting that vibe makes me really sad. We do send our dog to daycare because we believe that socialization and playtime is good for him. It’s sucks for him when daycare closes, but I also know that when I agreed to adopt him, I agreed to care for him in whatever capacity he needs. A lot of parents I know are treating this like a huge inconvenience and not a crisis. When we are in an actual crisis, it’s just not the time to act like having your kids at home puts you out so much. I’m over all the memes about how they want to expel their kids or give them detention or whatever, like it’s SO hard to parent their kids for three days. (FWIW, I also know many people who want to be parents but have not been successful in pregnancy, have lost multiple pregnancies including past the point of viability. I come from that place here) Yeah, I cant wrap my head around any parent that finds any aspect of parenting more inconvenient than a blessing.Sadly, it's all too common these days. I wrongly assumed you were speaking of ppl just venting about the disruption to their routine and such. Sadly, it's "all to common today" started happening when it became "common place" for both parents working full time.........early to mid 80's census showed 70% of couples with kids, were both earning incomes. Necessitating the day-care evolution and public school pre/post hour baby sitting.
We raised our children during this time period and watched the separations unfold..........the disconnect was telling, and still to this day there are "parents" using the term loosely (thousands), that can't understand why their kids (families) didn't "turnout" like they had planned or wished for, and thought by having more to give (materialistically) with two incomes, they could provide a "better" life and upward mobility..............Well, we now know how that has turned out...!
We were fortunate enough to be able to have Mom at home full-time up until both kids were in 2nd grade. After that, Mom worked at the same school they both went to until the oldest was in 6th grade. We had Grandma and Aunt available when Mom had to get a higher paying job to supplement our income when the Company I worked for (10yrs) went belly-up........I was out of work for almost 6mos. (mid 90's recession).........from then on, Mom has worked full-time ever since.
Once you get settled into a "standard" of living, it's very difficult to transition in the opposite direction (it's happened to us more than once), it puts a lot of pressure on relationships, but the foundations you build as a "family" during the children's early years make the bonds stronger over time.........There's nothing better for child than to know, without hesitation, Mom & Dad will always be there, to share and care, when they need us the most........whether they liked it or not.........LOL
Now, that both kids are raised, on their own, have their own kids, they occasionally acknowledge how glad they were raised with a Mom & Dad, that both worked hard (and at times long hours), but managed to always find time to be a part of their lives (the key to success, IMHO)..........and both are applying those same principals with raising (not bringing up) their children.......we couldn't ask for a more satisfying compliment.......and I'm more than happy to help as Papa Day Care, now that I have the time, when needed.....!
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Post by miket on Mar 21, 2020 5:00:00 GMT -5
I have to roll my eyes a bit at everybody complaining at having their kids home. I know I’m a bit jaded and biased, but honestly? Don’t have kids if you aren’t happily willing to care for them in times of crisis. I know there are nuances here, but in general, this is 100% what you agreed to if you intentionally had a child. Buck up and let your child feel loved. The more you complain about having them around, the shittier they feel. Tears me up a bit. I'm sure the kids aren't too thrilled to be stuck at home with their parents, cooped up in their homes with their normal schedules disrupted, either. I can't think of many sane parents who actually relish these circumstances. Parents love to complain about their kids as much as kids love to complain about their parents. But, at the end of the day, they all know they love each other- except for the monsters who don't. I must be insane, then. I love having my teenage daughter at home. I don't see her much under normal circumstances. Course she's the last one at home... 😊
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Post by knave on Mar 21, 2020 10:02:30 GMT -5
miket If we had a contest for “least insane RTH member”, you would be in the finals.
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Post by miket on Mar 21, 2020 10:11:41 GMT -5
Thanks, Evan but some days I'm not so sure... I think the rocks help, though. 😎
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Fossilman
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Post by Fossilman on Mar 21, 2020 10:21:51 GMT -5
Most everything is shutting down in our area... Restaurants, bars, fast food, some stores.. Large churches, schools, daycare, businesses..Some banks are drive up only.. My wife and daughter work a job that puts them at risk, but they still have to be there, no lay offs for them. I watch two of our grandkids, because there is no daycare out there as of now... I'm usually a home body anyhow, just to my shop once in awhile or yard chores... We are stocked up and will help others when the time comes... This too, shall pass!!
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Post by fernwood on Mar 21, 2020 10:30:52 GMT -5
Just had some interesting news. My grandson's best bud's mother is sick. She went to the dr. She was told to go home and self isolate. Not sure what that really means. Does that mean she has the virus, is at risk for the virus or just keeping an eye out for the virus. Those 2 boys practically live together and my grandson was at my place all day yesterday. She has 4 kids. Wouldn't they all be at risk, if they sent her home to them? She must not have the virus, but what do I know?
I would think they suspect it's the virus. Otherwise, there's no reason to self isolate. They sent her home because she's not ill enough to hospitalize. Anyone who has been near her has already been exposed to it. Locally, they are telling anyone who may have a virus to stay home. Not come in to be checked. If someone who is vulnerable is exposed to anyone with anything, it may lower their immune system if they become sick. There was a nasty virus in the Upper Midwest, that I had. Not Covid 19, but much worse. My employer mandated I stay home until I had 48 hours with no fever. Some co-workers were sick with a fever for over 2 weeks. They had to stay home, too. My point is that there are still other seasonal flues out there.
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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 21, 2020 11:14:41 GMT -5
Just had some interesting news. My grandson's best bud's mother is sick. She went to the dr. She was told to go home and self isolate. Not sure what that really means. Does that mean she has the virus, is at risk for the virus or just keeping an eye out for the virus. Those 2 boys practically live together and my grandson was at my place all day yesterday. She has 4 kids. Wouldn't they all be at risk, if they sent her home to them? She must not have the virus, but what do I know?
Update: After a lot of texts and phone calls, I got the whole story abt the mother. She had bronchitis that wasn't abating. She never had a fever, so they wouldn't test her. She has been sick for at least 2 weeks. No one in her large household has gotten sick in that time frame, so I think she's good. I'm still taking all necessary precautions.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Mar 21, 2020 11:21:33 GMT -5
That's good to hear. Makes it a little less worrying.
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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 21, 2020 11:24:45 GMT -5
My BIL who is very ill with 2 broken ribs, probably a punctured lung and pneumonia was told by his Dr to stay away from the hospital at all cost. Catching something in the ER will kill him. Not a good time to be sick with anything.
DH decided to go to walmart for a couple things and went before they opened. He was #4 in line for 1.5 hours. When the doors opened, there was a crush of abt 150 people to get in. People were crazy. Everyone made a dash for the TP. There was ONE case available. DH went for the nitrile gloves in the paint dept for my daughter who works at a pharmacy. There were 2 boxes. She is essential personnel at Rite Aid, but they don't supply masks and gloves which pisses me off. I'm giving her some of mine. DH was wearing a mask and gloves but he was the only one in Walmart with them on which is weird to me. If you are there because of the virus, wouldn't you want to take precautions against the virus?
My Lithuanian friend just repeats - "This is all so surreal...." It's crazy everywhere.
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Post by Pat on Mar 21, 2020 11:34:11 GMT -5
Our nephew makes boats and repairs boats on a small island off the Washington coast. Says the weather is good and he is going to self-isolate out in the bay with his fishing pole. Smart man!
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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 21, 2020 11:41:46 GMT -5
Our nephew makes boats and repairs boats on a small island off the Washington coast. Says the weather is good and he is going to self-isolate out in the bay with his fishing pole. Smart man! Nice!
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Post by miket on Mar 21, 2020 12:16:25 GMT -5
My BIL who is very ill with 2 broken ribs, probably a punctured lung and pneumonia was told by his Dr to stay away from the hospital at all cost. Catching something in the ER will kill him. Not a good time to be sick with anything.
DH decided to go to walmart for a couple things and went before they opened. He was #4 in line for 1.5 hours. When the doors opened, there was a crush of abt 150 people to get in. People were crazy. Everyone made a dash for the TP. There was ONE case available. DH went for the nitrile gloves in the paint dept for my daughter who works at a pharmacy. There were 2 boxes. She is essential personnel at Rite Aid, but they don't supply masks and gloves which pisses me off. I'm giving her some of mine. DH was wearing a mask and gloves but he was the only one in Walmart with them on which is weird to me. If you are there because of the virus, wouldn't you want to take precautions against the virus?
My Lithuanian friend just repeats - "This is all so surreal...." It's crazy everywhere.
So crazy. I'm working at Walmart right now. We haven't had any lines, the store has run out of a few things but most of it is here within a day. I've only seen one or two people shopping with gloves or a mask since this started. I guess sometimes it's not too bad living in a small community.
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Post by parfive on Mar 21, 2020 12:49:13 GMT -5
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Post by amygdule on Mar 21, 2020 13:49:19 GMT -5
Our nephew makes boats and repairs boats on a small island off the Washington coast. Says the weather is good and he is going to self-isolate out in the bay with his fishing pole. Smart man! Nice! I'm going to self isolate with a 5 mile walk through the woods Hug a few trees Then across the bridge and down to the bay Maybe I'll find some Fossils & Carnelian and UV Rays
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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 21, 2020 13:50:05 GMT -5
I'm going to self isolate with a 5 mile walk through the woods Hug a few trees Then across the bridge and down to the bay Maybe I'll find some Fossils & Carnelian and UV Rays
I'm jelly.
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Post by amygdule on Mar 21, 2020 23:17:39 GMT -5
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Benathema
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God chased me down and made sure I knew He was real June 20, 2022. I've been on a Divine Mission.
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Post by Benathema on Mar 21, 2020 23:29:35 GMT -5
What's the secret crab meeting about?
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