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Post by parfive on Sept 10, 2020 17:37:23 GMT -5
Books? Somebody said books? : ) Here’s a couple of good reads.
The Snake Charmer: A Life and Death in Pursuit of Knowledge by Jamie James
Bushmaster - Raymond Ditmars and the Hunt for the World's Largest Viper by Dan Eatherley
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Post by Bob on Sept 10, 2020 22:42:38 GMT -5
OMG,that must be bait designed for me. Alas the fish will not bite. Wasn't easy though.
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Post by lordsorril on Sept 12, 2020 7:13:46 GMT -5
Photo #30 A few pieces of Petrified Wood.
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Post by 1dave on Sept 13, 2020 13:41:06 GMT -5
Don't apologize, KEEP IT UP! iF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE WORLD, I it!
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Post by lordsorril on Sept 14, 2020 5:50:16 GMT -5
Photo #31 Tree Agate -- This piece reminded me of a mountain with a snowy peak so I interrupted the tumbling process and sent it to polish. As I mentioned previously: I have no compulsion to make perfect spheres. The snake color is a little odd as it is an adult Pastel Axanthic (same genetics as the one from Photo #13). Adult coloration for most variations fade over time...there are certain exceptions of course and certain genes will stabilize color into adulthood.
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Post by lordsorril on Sept 16, 2020 6:51:28 GMT -5
Photo #32 Here are a few pieces from Nipomo California (collected in the 60's). The rough material was in super bad shape when I got it (like swiss cheese)-still managed to break it up and tumble some decent pieces... I call this the 'blue variant', I have tumbled a similar material in Photo #23 I call the 'red variant'. This material is multi-mohs, it undercuts, fractures, and pits--at some point during the tumbling/polishing process I have to say 'good enough'. The blue variant tumbles a lot better than the red variant...
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Post by Bob on Sept 17, 2020 14:56:32 GMT -5
Do you know what those rocks are? Did a lot of black weird floating crud appear in the water like happens when you tumble rhodonite with significant manganese oxide in it? These rocks, and your description of what happened, remind me a lot of material I've found in the headwaters of the Ark River north of Leadville, CO. Although mine do not have any color other than black and grey. If you had IDd these it might help me ID mine.
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Post by lordsorril on Sept 17, 2020 17:33:44 GMT -5
Do you know what those rocks are? Did a lot of black weird floating crud appear in the water like happens when you tumble rhodonite with significant manganese oxide in it? These rocks, and your description of what happened, remind me a lot of material I've found in the headwaters of the Ark River north of Leadville, CO. Although mine do not have any color other than black and grey. If you had IDd these it might help me ID mine. The guy I bought it from owns a rock shop in California: he sold me a wide selection of his 'discard material'. He said the blue and red material I tumbled is Agate with Marcasite. I haven't really noticed anything odd about the tumbling slurry. I am working on a apple sized piece of red stuff right now (without too many pits)--can't use anything coarser than 120 SiC on it...have to coarse grind with cushioning or else it will fracture...ughhh...going to take a long time...
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Post by lordsorril on Sept 17, 2020 19:05:28 GMT -5
'Red' Variant Photo #33
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Post by Bob on Sept 18, 2020 11:46:32 GMT -5
When I first started trying to understand rocks, I made lots and lots of notes and got them organized and I refer to these notes a lot. I just looked up Marcasite in those notes. It only appears as marcasite agate in CA. That I wrote only CA after it should mean that it was found only in that state. And I noted further "named for feature (inclusion of Marcasite--metal related to Pyrite)" because I tried hard to find out why all rocks are named the way they are, whether for place, person, feature, inclusion, etc. So apparently no way what I found in CO could be this. Your rocks in that photo are some of the most unique, and beautiful, I have ever seen.
If you want to trade one not yet done for something I have, I'd enjoy that. I'm about to start the process, contemplated for several years, of diluting Epoxy 300 in acetone, and soaking porous rocks in it for several weeks, curing after for several weeks, etc. in order to hopefully produce some tightly polished results from material that is problematic. For instance, I have a grapefruit size piece of gorgeous ocean jasper, but anyone who has worked with this unusual material knows what I mean about voids. This process might work with your marcasite agate material. My notes reveal that I found it for sale somewhere for $25/lb, but I noted not where.
That mostly silvery one just above the real red one in the lower left just blows my mind. I will be in LA heading up toward Atascadero this fall. If you know of any places I might find some of this or buy some of this, I'm very interested. My goal would be to get a few sizeable pieces rather than a lot of small pieces, but I won't be picky either.
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Post by lordsorril on Sept 18, 2020 13:33:07 GMT -5
So apparently no way what I found in CO could be this. Your rocks in that photo are some of the most unique, and beautiful, I have ever seen. If you want to trade one not yet done for something I have, I'd enjoy that. That mostly silvery one just above the real red one in the lower left just blows my mind. I will be in LA heading up toward Atascadero this fall. If you know of any places I might find some of this or buy some of this, I'm very interested. Thank you for the compliment! Yes on occasion I do get lucky with a sweet tumble, the one you picked out is especially clean and you can see the marcasite floating within. Unfortunately I put this rock into storage last year so I don't have additional pictures until I happen across it some day. I have not come across any more of this material: Any that I have found already I have separated out and tumbled-with the exception of the one larger piece I am still working on (picture below). I have several unopened boxes (somewhere) from this rock shop. My garage looks like a USPS warehouse-I rather enjoy pulling a random box and tumbling whatever is inside-it makes things interesting! If I run across any big chunks I'll give you a chance to trade for them! I did see a seller on Ebay last month with a few small slabs of the red stuff and they sold for ~$20 each. I think finding big chunks of this stuff for a reasonable price would be extremely difficult at this point. I know some people remember where the old mine was and they have made special 'arrangements' with the landowners nearby. As for Epoxy to solidify the rocks: I imagine this may be very possible to accomplish as you are purely working with rotary tumbling. I have had very limited success reinforcing rocks in a vibe tumbler. Note: The rock shown below is bigger than it looks-I just have big man hands. Yes, the tiger salamander totally tried to eat that rock 2 seconds later...
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Post by Bob on Sept 18, 2020 14:18:08 GMT -5
I'm going to refrain from herpetological comments on how super cool that sallie is and how much I know that "about to go for it look" nor will I comment about how it looks like it has chili pepper powder all over its head or that my tiger sallie ate 2 mice in only 4 days last week and how my sallie moves so aggressively in its terrarium that it startles people including me or about the time I found a tiger sallie, huge tarantula, and a giant centipede all living under the same rock in separate dirt compartments.
That is one cool and unusual rock!
I'm not expecting miracles out of the diluted epoxy method. After all, diluting something that is designed to fill voids sounds about as logical as expecting to drink 1 pint of water and feeling full when one normally needs a quart of water. If the acetone evaporates, which it will, no way I can see how voids could be filled. But, my hope is that this diluted epoxy step will "set" the rock in a way no matter how porous such that the rock material itself can't "wick" up fluid. Then, if I later actually pour undiluted epoxy into the voids, after warming the rock slightly so that the epoxy flows readily, the voids might be filled.
I have polished rocks with the epoxy 300 product in some large pits. I'm satisfied with it maybe 50% of the time. It certainly polishes well and in a similar way to the rock itself. But, if the epoxy spot is hit by another rock, it seems to at times fracture itself (the epoxy plug I mean) or make the bonded surface of the epoxy with the rock a little more visible. So it's a mixed bag, but allows saving some rocks for which there are unaVOIDable problems.
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Post by Bob on Sept 18, 2020 15:09:20 GMT -5
By the way, I haven't reviewed the other photos of your snakes for this, but that last one really demonstrates the disruptive coloration pattern that obscures the eye of predators such that the incipient prey just doesn't have a chance. Imagine being a bird that just had the unfortunate luck to land on a rock a few inches in front of that face which doesn't really look like a face. Two seconds later, it's all over...
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Post by lordsorril on Sept 18, 2020 17:51:27 GMT -5
On Cloudinary Now: Photo #34 Warning: Video has audio! My girlfriend gets angry when I do this:
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Post by Bob on Sept 18, 2020 22:53:57 GMT -5
That bowl was just made to be filled by a python...
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Post by NRG on Sept 20, 2020 16:10:46 GMT -5
Very nice snake and an equally magnificent image. Where did you catch it? I've been fortunate enough to collect both southern and northern types. Corvallis was the local for the northern and we saw over 50 that day.
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Post by lordsorril on Sept 21, 2020 17:44:59 GMT -5
Photo #35 A chunk of petrified wood. Nice polish: you can see the snake scales reflect.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Sept 21, 2020 21:28:31 GMT -5
Photo #35 A chunk of petrified wood. Nice polish: you can see the snake scales reflect. Nice piece of wood. I think I may be more impressed that you got that snake to go around a rectangular rock!
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Post by TheRock on Sept 22, 2020 6:27:18 GMT -5
Nice lookin stones I like Snakes too, They taste just like chicken.
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Post by lordsorril on Sept 22, 2020 8:02:12 GMT -5
Nice lookin stones I like Snakes too, They taste just like chicken. A lot of them do!
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