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Post by knave on Aug 21, 2020 13:16:35 GMT -5
jamesp How much rock could you vibe with this motor? It’s on a pallet here where I’m working.
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Post by mohs on Aug 21, 2020 14:20:31 GMT -5
explored the Vulture Mine in Maricopa County , Az Many moons ago. got a lot of fabulous pictures The old machine shop was dangerous spooky and fabulously ghostly The Vulture churned out lots ore in its day
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Post by jamesp on Aug 22, 2020 4:25:57 GMT -5
jamesp How much rock could you vibe with this motor? It’s on a pallet here where I’m working. Looks about like 100 hp 480VAC 3 phase. Better call the militia to tame that beast. I did manage to tame a cell phone to run a Mavic Mini drone yesterday. Programming cell phones my worst fear. Evan uses his phone for everything. Installed the dji drone cell app, got it to take password and register successfully. pizzanoInterpreted all of that highly intuitive wordless icon language. Downloaded the updates. Paired phone to controller. Paired controller to drone. Followed the wordless illustrative commands. Must have watched a dozen 'how to' Youtube videos. How to remove battery/how to turn off, how to this and how to that... To add to complication Android does not link easily to the mavic mini at all. Android 6,7,10 don't like communicating with this drone. My 9 did ok. When all the registering charging linking prompting pairing downloading updating was done she ran and videoed with high accuracy ! I could bring the drone a few inches from me and it would hover +/- 1 inch, amazing GPS feedback loop stability. This drone could easily be set free over several 100 acres of clearcut land and photographically check flat areas for stone artifacts by seeing rock chip debris. Signifying Native encampments. Save me miles of walking. On-board camera is plenty good for this task at 10 feet elevation.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 22, 2020 4:37:06 GMT -5
explored the Vulture Mine in Maricopa County , Az Many moons ago. got a lot of fabulous pictures The old machine shop was dangerous spooky and fabulously ghostly The Vulture churned out lots ore in its day Love the ornamental cast iron sheave Ed. The heavy motor with oil cups. Wide belts. Beaded conduits. looks like hot hard heavy work. Our humidity would have rusted half of that equipment to oblivion lol.
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Post by knave on Aug 22, 2020 6:31:07 GMT -5
jamesp You’re good, it is 480v 3 phase, but it’s 150 hp and 3130 lbs. The drone sounds amazing. Great job taming the Droid with all the fragmentation. Haha wordless hieroglyphics can be good or bad. Do you ever go to IKEA?
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Post by jamesp on Aug 22, 2020 8:21:32 GMT -5
jamesp You’re good, it is 480v 3 phase, but it’s 150 hp and 3130 lbs. The drone sounds amazing. Great job taming the Droid with all the fragmentation. Haha wordless hieroglyphics can be good or bad. Do you ever go to IKEA? Written instruction took 60 years to learn. Now we have an icon alphabet that changes symbols with brands, time, moods, applications, etc. We need to standardize those mysterious beasts. It blows my mind how younger folks can interpret icon definitions. i.e., their intuitive skills are so off the chart. Granted, young folks were introduced to icons when their language learning abilities were peaking via cells and pads. IKEA instructions was one of the first experiences with this symbolic language.
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Post by pizzano on Aug 22, 2020 9:02:32 GMT -5
jamesp You’re good, it is 480v 3 phase, but it’s 150 hp and 3130 lbs. The drone sounds amazing. Great job taming the Droid with all the fragmentation. Haha wordless hieroglyphics can be good or bad. Do you ever go to IKEA? Written instruction took 60 years to learn. Now we have an icon alphabet that changes symbols with brands, time, moods, applications, etc. We need to standardize those mysterious beasts. It blows my mind how younger folks can interpret icon definitions. i.e., their intuitive skills are so off the chart. Granted, young folks were introduced to icons when their language learning abilities were peaking via cells and pads. IKEA instructions was one of the first experiences with this symbolic language. LOL........and how long did it take the Egyptians to develop a written phonetic (Coptic) language.......?
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Post by knave on Aug 22, 2020 9:14:09 GMT -5
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Post by pizzano on Aug 22, 2020 10:12:14 GMT -5
jamesp How much rock could you vibe with this motor? It’s on a pallet here where I’m working. Looks about like 100 hp 480VAC 3 phase. Better call the militia to tame that beast. I did manage to tame a cell phone to run a Mavic Mini drone yesterday. Programming cell phones my worst fear. Evan uses his phone for everything. Installed the dji drone cell app, got it to take password and register successfully. pizzano Interpreted all of that highly intuitive wordless icon language. Downloaded the updates. Paired phone to controller. Paired controller to drone. Followed the wordless illustrative commands. Must have watched a dozen 'how to' Youtube videos. How to remove battery/how to turn off, how to this and how to that... To add to complication Android does not link easily to the mavic mini at all. Android 6,7,10 don't like communicating with this drone. My 9 did ok. When all the registering charging linking prompting pairing downloading updating was done she ran and videoed with high accuracy ! I could bring the drone a few inches from me and it would hover +/- 1 inch, amazing GPS feedback loop stability. This drone could easily be set free over several 100 acres of clearcut land and photographically check flat areas for stone artifacts by seeing rock chip debris. Signifying Native encampments. Save me miles of walking. On-board camera is plenty good for this task at 10 feet elevation. Looks like you're on your way........The latest android software takes an ISO 9 version....as you found out.
The Mavic video quality is great......the optics and field range line of sight on these little cameras have advanced miles from the days when I started. Even the application and function aspects related to the little controllers are "simple stupid" today. Phone applications were not even fully beta tested........I was involved with one of DJI's first couple of mistakes. DJI is the leader in this, in the hobby world. That's one of the major reasons they are so popular and invasive......lol.......The story changes (as you know) when you've got a separate photo recording device hanging off one of these. Operating in step and independent from craft operation........a whole different world.
I'm not that "up" on the current hobby grade software.........but if memory serves, at least on one of my old toys, setting way points, return to home and travel sequences are much easier now. But, data collection, retrieval, like coordinates, altitude, relation to visible horizon (angles of deflection), are still a bit more complicated to transfer onto the PC......?.........Seems almost all of the vitals are now shown within the video screen shot, if programmed to include such as part of the vid....?
Sometime, if I can remember where I stored them, I'll post a vid or two of my explorations and flight travels. I have a few from a couple of rock hounding trips a made 4 or 5yrs ago. Like I mentioned before. I haven't used one of my toys in ages. They are all outdated and none of the newer software is compatible. But the vids still play back.
BTW.........You may find learning the ICON languages to very helpful as you get deeper into the programming aspects. To me, it was like learning CADD tools. Once I put to use and practiced, it became second nature. Saves lots of time and takes the frustration out of relying on text memory application, back and forth redundancy......! But, then again, I have a thing for language learning.......It's like music or math to me........wired at birth for such...........I think you are too......lol
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Post by parfive on Aug 22, 2020 12:31:43 GMT -5
Looks like wide-stance Larry was ahead of his time. Practicing in a stall, however . . . not the brightest move.
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Post by mohs on Aug 22, 2020 13:46:24 GMT -5
Looks like wide-stance Larry was ahead of his time. Practicing in a stall, however . . . not the brightest move. panta rhei apóstasi~~~
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Post by jamesp on Aug 23, 2020 14:33:17 GMT -5
Looks about like 100 hp 480VAC 3 phase. Better call the militia to tame that beast. I did manage to tame a cell phone to run a Mavic Mini drone yesterday. Programming cell phones my worst fear. Evan uses his phone for everything. Installed the dji drone cell app, got it to take password and register successfully. pizzano Interpreted all of that highly intuitive wordless icon language. Downloaded the updates. Paired phone to controller. Paired controller to drone. Followed the wordless illustrative commands. Must have watched a dozen 'how to' Youtube videos. How to remove battery/how to turn off, how to this and how to that... To add to complication Android does not link easily to the mavic mini at all. Android 6,7,10 don't like communicating with this drone. My 9 did ok. When all the registering charging linking prompting pairing downloading updating was done she ran and videoed with high accuracy ! I could bring the drone a few inches from me and it would hover +/- 1 inch, amazing GPS feedback loop stability. This drone could easily be set free over several 100 acres of clearcut land and photographically check flat areas for stone artifacts by seeing rock chip debris. Signifying Native encampments. Save me miles of walking. On-board camera is plenty good for this task at 10 feet elevation. Looks like you're on your way........The latest android software takes an ISO 9 version....as you found out. The Mavic video quality is great......the optics and field range line of sight on these little cameras have advanced miles from the days when I started. Even the application and function aspects related to the little controllers are "simple stupid" today. Phone applications were not even fully beta tested........I was involved with one of DJI's first couple of mistakes. DJI is the leader in this, in the hobby world. That's one of the major reasons they are so popular and invasive......lol.......The story changes (as you know) when you've got a separate photo recording device hanging off one of these. Operating in step and independent from craft operation........a whole different world. I'm not that "up" on the current hobby grade software.........but if memory serves, at least on one of my old toys, setting way points, return to home and travel sequences are much easier now. But, data collection, retrieval, like coordinates, altitude, relation to visible horizon (angles of deflection), are still a bit more complicated to transfer onto the PC......?.........Seems almost all of the vitals are now shown within the video screen shot, if programmed to include such as part of the vid....? Sometime, if I can remember where I stored them, I'll post a vid or two of my explorations and flight travels. I have a few from a couple of rock hounding trips a made 4 or 5yrs ago. Like I mentioned before. I haven't used one of my toys in ages. They are all outdated and none of the newer software is compatible. But the vids still play back. BTW.........You may find learning the ICON languages to very helpful as you get deeper into the programming aspects. To me, it was like learning CADD tools. Once I put to use and practiced, it became second nature. Saves lots of time and takes the frustration out of relying on text memory application, back and forth redundancy......! But, then again, I have a thing for language learning.......It's like music or math to me........wired at birth for such...........I think you are too......lol
I sense the manufacturers have way dialed these devices in to be much user friendly pizzano. The cheaper practice drones were a challenge to fly because they will inadvertently wonder aimlessly or drift in a 10 mph wind. Jumping from $150 to $500 and adding a cell phone to manage the feedback loops turned this Mavic Mini into a very tame and easy to fly machine. If you get in trouble just take you fingers of the controls and it freezes exactly where you left it hovering, fighting the wind by itself. This makes photography so easy. The image stability is mind blowing, steady as if mounted in a tripod. Taking a family portrait ? Shoot with a drone so the cameraman can get in the photo. It returns home at a push of a button. It stays 5 feet above the ground if not at home position. It has sensors to keep it from hitting walls/trees/etc. It warns you verbally about battery levels and calculates fly time and when you need to start back home. So many more functions. My buddy flew it first time effortlessly. I am not yet impressed with the f-stop on the still camera but I believe it can be adjusted mid air for light conditions. No doubt other functions are easy to do. And so many complex functions are available. It came with a smart battery charger. each time I went up one battery lasted 24 to 26 minutes. If switched to sport mode it go fast and eat battery. If in C-mode for photography it sips slowly from the batteries. I will have to study what P-mode is, that the only mode tried so far. Again, if I had this in Texas I would have found the best places to collect quickly by flying low to see the rock exposure/density/type.
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Post by pizzano on Aug 24, 2020 9:31:37 GMT -5
I took the time yesterday and looked up (your) the Mavic mini on the DJI operational website........I understand your enthusiasm, I was familiar with the older version (3yrs). The only draw back I would have with it is the need for a cell phone to live stream visual orientation (way to small for my vision). I gather larger tablets could be used but requires a different frame device to hold against the controller. There are two different types of DJI software available that would allow that mini to pair up with a more advanced controller like a Spektrum DX model (which I use), that will also pair with a laptop (which I use)..........now that would be the ticket for me, but programing skills will be challenged a bit for a newbee, (that's where the ICON language is useful)......:
I also discovered that the Mini's three flight modes C, P, S are just really two modes with the P incorporated as part of the C, allowing all the of the compass and GPS sensor devises to be activated in order to fly at slower speed and remain stationary and stable for longer periods of time, needed for filming, another drawback for me since you can't film (record) in the P mode with any quality unless a modified software tweak is applied (which, I understand, still has bugs).......P mode gives you more mobility, quicker response and flight speed, yet allows for the same (good) stability in breezy conditions, C allows for stability, but sacrifices (manual) quicker response since your fighting the software intelligence over-rides.........which is good and bad if conditions get tricky..........just my take on it.
Although, I'm not that great of a pilot compared to the younger bucks, I've gotten used to 4 axis control and integrated gimbal aspects/overrides used on the larger craft......piloting that Mini would be a kick in the pants compared to my old personal little quads........which are 3axis, hover stability, but no auto throttle response override.......I'm on the sticks continuously.........lol
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Post by jamesp on Aug 24, 2020 10:52:46 GMT -5
The cell phone has some form of control related software icon or software button about every inch along the edge of the cell phone screen pizzano. Thus reducing the amount of hardware controls on the hand held controller. In this case the soft controls are easy to interpret. This makes the cell phone a real treasure because so much information can be illustrated in pop up windows to both warn you and educate you of the result of the individual control you are changing at that moment. A good example would be the camera shutter speed, simply tap 100th(default) at lower right corner of cell and a window pops up for you to pick 120-160-200-240-280-etc etc shutter speeds. On the fly. And the image instantly brightens or darkens on the fly. To make precision shutter speed adjustments simply take your hand off the controls and look at the cell screen closely to judge your image quality. Or even better, drop altitude and make adjustments close to subject to find best shutter speed for best image quality and then go back to high altitude. A tablet would sure help. A 10.5 inch pad would be the ultimate for old eyes. It seems to be doable loading the dji Fly app into an iPad but a longer cord would be required, a common Mini USB to phone plug. Half eye reading glasses work well so you can look over them for distance vision, down for cell visibility. My initial flight training was done with a $20 super fast super lightweight tiny Proton that got bullied by a 3 mph wind. Quite unstable and had no interest in staying in one spot unless you were managing the sticks constantly. This Mavic is dead steady and stays put in a strong wind. Sit in a chair and park in in the air a foot from your head and take a 10 minute nap lol. You can sit and study the controls as you watch the gimbal or rotation or whatever function being operated in total peace in your office for that matter. The gimbal control is a rolling dial on the hand held controller. Your assessment of the flight modes appear accurate but I am not experienced enough to comment.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 30, 2020 5:55:32 GMT -5
I keep a dozen projects going passively. Each project is stored in a container along with a note describing status and possible useful components needed. This project box has 3 extra motors, 6 extra 6mm hubs, 3" flange washers, and a tiny bag of associated metric and Imperial bolts. A couple of 6mm drills would be a good addition. 6mm hubs finally arrived. Work is still in progress but slow. Counterweights will have to be connected to these hubs. Not as beefy a hub as desired but may get the job done. 2mm set screws may not hold up. If not the hubs can be carefully welded to the motor shaft. Spares available, purchased 4 motors since they were inexpensive. Need to order a couple of 6mm drills so counterweights can be drilled directly if these wimpy hubs don't hold up.
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Post by knave on Oct 20, 2021 19:39:40 GMT -5
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Post by brybry on Dec 15, 2021 16:56:56 GMT -5
Did it work?
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Post by jamesp on Dec 17, 2021 13:14:38 GMT -5
Project not completed brybry. Not far to go. Just need to dedicate some time. Thanks
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Post by brybry on Dec 17, 2021 13:30:39 GMT -5
Awesome, I'll wait impatiently then, lol.
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Post by jamesp on Dec 19, 2021 4:11:45 GMT -5
Awesome, I'll wait impatiently then, lol. Stock Lot-O is about 3000 vibes per minute. This one 6000 vibes per minute brybry. Ultrasonic vibration starts at 20,000 vibes per minute. No guarantees that it will work. Guessing it will when using finer abrasives. Or will the abrasive size matter ?
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