weaselguys
having dreams about rocks
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Post by weaselguys on Sept 9, 2020 21:00:39 GMT -5
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 11, 2020 17:56:31 GMT -5
This one looks like wood. The thing in the back left of the photo is a fossilized Bison tooth. Here's a link to a thread with more info on fossil teeth.
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Post by Mel on Sept 11, 2020 20:14:14 GMT -5
Nice finds. I really like the tooth, I never would've guessed it was from a bison.
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RWA3006
Cave Dweller
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Post by RWA3006 on Sept 12, 2020 19:11:01 GMT -5
Yep, all wood except the tooth which is identical to bison teeth I've found.
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Post by rmf on Sept 12, 2020 19:24:18 GMT -5
now you need to find a petrified wood pecker.
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Post by stephan on Sept 12, 2020 21:54:11 GMT -5
Bison tooth? Looks like horse to me.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 13, 2020 0:14:45 GMT -5
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weaselguys
having dreams about rocks
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Post by weaselguys on Sept 13, 2020 0:41:32 GMT -5
Well I can understand it being a bison tooth since it was found down stream from Yellowstone NP,I am guessing it would have to be pretty old then. Thank you for verifying the pet wood also, I was pretty sure that was what it was just wanted to know for sure.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 13, 2020 5:56:12 GMT -5
Well I can understand it being a bison tooth since it was found down stream from Yellowstone NP,I am guessing it would have to be pretty old then. Thank you for verifying the pet wood also, I was pretty sure that was what it was just wanted to know for sure. Not the bison currently found in Yellowstone. "Bison occidentalis is an extinct species of bison that lived in North America, and potentially in Siberia and the Japanese archipelago from about 11,000 to 5,000 years ago, spanning the end of the Pleistocene to the mid-Holocene." Wikipedia
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Post by stephan on Sept 13, 2020 18:37:30 GMT -5
Hard for me to see if there is a stylid in that pic. As for length to width ratio, fossils do break. Seems like it could go either way. Looks like both continue growing throughout the life of the animal. As for it being found in Louisiana, does that skew it one way or the other? Nice find, either way
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 13, 2020 18:57:34 GMT -5
Hard for me to see if there is a stylid in that pic. As for length to width ratio, fossils do break. Seems like it could go either way. Looks like both continue growing throughout the life of the animal. As for it being found in Louisiana, does that skew it one way or the other? Nice find, either way Horse teeth don't have them. One could tell a broken tooth, as one end is the chewing surface, the other end the root. Were it broken, you would have a sheared end. Both extinct horse and bison had wide ranges. I'm sure both were found in Louisiana. Or are you talking about the one Randy's wife found? Pretty sure fossilized horse teeth can be found in WY, I know Bison occidentalis lived there in the past. Do what I do - Google it!
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Post by RickB on Sept 13, 2020 19:19:58 GMT -5
It's a bison tooth. Found a few through the years.
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Post by stephan on Sept 13, 2020 20:59:21 GMT -5
Hard for me to see if there is a stylid in that pic. As for length to width ratio, fossils do break. Seems like it could go either way. Looks like both continue growing throughout the life of the animal. As for it being found in Louisiana, does that skew it one way or the other? Nice find, either way Horse teeth don't have them. One could tell a broken tooth, as one end is the chewing surface, the other end the root. Were it broken, you would have a sheared end. Both extinct horse and bison had wide ranges. I'm sure both were found in Louisiana. Or are you talking about the one Randy's wife found? Pretty sure fossilized horse teeth can be found in WY, I know Bison occidentalis lived there in the past. Do what I do - Google it! Right. What I was saying is that my old eyes on a small picture don’t see a stylid. Also, getting info to look at some of the teeth in my collection to see if I need to revise any IDs
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Post by stephan on Sept 13, 2020 20:59:33 GMT -5
Hard for me to see if there is a stylid in that pic. As for length to width ratio, fossils do break. Seems like it could go either way. Looks like both continue growing throughout the life of the animal. As for it being found in Louisiana, does that skew it one way or the other? Nice find, either way Horse teeth don't have them. One could tell a broken tooth, as one end is the chewing surface, the other end the root. Were it broken, you would have a sheared end. Both extinct horse and bison had wide ranges. I'm sure both were found in Louisiana. Or are you talking about the one Randy's wife found? Pretty sure fossilized horse teeth can be found in WY, I know Bison occidentalis lived there in the past. Do what I do - Google it! Right. What I was saying is that my old eyes don’t see a stylid on weaselguy’s small picture. While I don’t see a stylid, I also can’t say there isn’t one. Also, I’m getting info to look at some of the teeth in my collection to see if I need to revise any IDs, given that I have no location info. Yes Google it. What could possible go wrong? 😂 Btw, on both my phone and computer, I have trouble seeing photobucket images
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 14, 2020 0:21:56 GMT -5
Right. What I was saying is that my old eyes don’t see a stylid on weaselguy’s small picture. While I don’t see a stylid, I also can’t say there isn’t one. Also, I’m getting info to look at some of the teeth in my collection to see if I need to revise any IDs, given that I have no location info. Yes Google it. What could possible go wrong? 😂 Btw, on both my phone and computer, I have trouble seeing photobucket images Sorry, was not trying to be obtuse. You are correct, the image in the original post is small, and the stylid could be easily overlooked. It may be easier for me to see because I know what I am looking for and where to look? Perhaps we could get weaselguys to take a couple more photos so we can get a better look? It looks to my 62 year old eyes that it is there, but some new photos could clear that up. BTW, I was not aware of this until today, but "stylid" is the term used for this protuberance when the tooth is from the lower jaw, it is called a "style" when the tooth is from the upper jaw. It is always found on the "lingual," or tongue side of the molar. I have found plenty of first-rate information by Googling. There is so much information available online these days. But it does help when you know the words to search for, the questions to ask. I admit there is a lot of false information out there, you just have to be able to sift through it. Sorry about the Photobucket images. That photo was from an old post from when I used Photobucket. No longer do, but I have not gone back and re-uploaded photos from all my old posts onto Cloudinary, and fixed beaucoup links. I tend to forget about the "Photobucket brand" on my photos, as I don't see it when on my phone.
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weaselguys
having dreams about rocks
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Post by weaselguys on Sept 14, 2020 19:09:02 GMT -5
I will get some picture of the tooth tomorrow and post them here the day after since I have to work late. The tooth was not meant to be in this post it was just forgotten on the table.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 15, 2020 10:30:49 GMT -5
Aren't you glad it was left on the table? Were you already aware that it was a tooth?
Looking forward to seeing new photos of the tooth. Thanks for doing that.
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weaselguys
having dreams about rocks
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Post by weaselguys on Sept 16, 2020 18:42:33 GMT -5
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