Cody
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Post by Cody on Nov 26, 2020 17:27:37 GMT -5
Eating through several racks of ribs here when it dawned on me - what would happen if I cut up the bone from my leftover ribs and threw it all in a rotary tumbler as a substitute for ceramic media? Would the bone fracture? Would the stones polish up nicely? Would I get some undesired irregularities in the initial coarse grind phase? Would the bone just disappear into glue? Well I'm about to find out! Let's go on a journey to see what happens if we can substitute our holiday leftovers into an effective replacement for ceramic media!The first step is to clean off these nasty bits of leftovers, And turn them into this! The next step will be to cut them up into manageable chunks. I'll be attempting to cut them into quarter pieces of bone with a hand saw. It'll take a little while since I'll be doing this by hand, so I'll be updating tomorrow with more pictures! From there, I will be tossing these chunks of bone ( I'll be cleaning the marrow out of them) in with several rough Petoskey stones. I'll have two tumbler barrels going, both running with equal weights of rough Petoskey stone though one will be using bone, the other with ceramic media. I'll be using two tablespoons (depending on overall weight of the barrel contents) of coarse grind and tumbling them for two days. Every two days I'll check on them to update you on how they're going, and I'll leave them running for a total of 6 days. Check back tomorrow for an update on the preparation!
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EricD
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Post by EricD on Nov 26, 2020 18:20:10 GMT -5
This will get really interesting
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Post by Mel on Nov 26, 2020 20:26:48 GMT -5
I predict bones full of grit and not much else...
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EricD
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Post by EricD on Nov 26, 2020 21:50:20 GMT -5
I predict bones full of grit and not much else... Ever had bones in your kitchen trash can for a week? If it doesn't blow the lids off the barrels from fermentation/rot, it'll make you pass out or at the very least dry heave when you pop the lid.
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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 26, 2020 22:04:10 GMT -5
I predict bones full of grit and not much else... Ever had bones in your kitchen trash can for a week? If it doesn't blow the lids off the barrels from fermentation/rot, it'll make you pass out or at the very least dry heave when you pop the lid. If you're really going to try this...and it sounds as though you are, Eric is probably right with this assessment unless you boil that marrow out of the bones. If you don't, I predict it will begin to rot before the batch is done...maybe not. This reminds me of a story for some reason... Twenty-some years ago I was working as a garbage man for the city. Pretty much every day we'd stop for lunch at one particular gas station/convenience store to get their hot dogs which were 2 for $1 back then. Well, there was a guy who'd stop in nearly every day at the same time we were there and always seemed to stare over at us. One day he said "Must be a pretty good paying job." Well, I really believed he was being a bit snide, so I said "Yep, $3 an hour and all you can eat!", while reaching into the hopper of the garbage truck. He didn't wait around to see what I was pulling out...which would have been nothing...and he never again looked our way when he was going into the store.
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Cody
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Post by Cody on Nov 26, 2020 22:06:36 GMT -5
Ever had bones in your kitchen trash can for a week? If it doesn't blow the lids off the barrels from fermentation/rot, it'll make you pass out or at the very least dry heave when you pop the lid. If you're really going to try this...and it sounds as though you are, Eric is probably right with this assessment unless you boil that marrow out of the bones. If you don't, I predict it will begin to rot before the batch is done...maybe not. This reminds me of a story for some reason... Twenty-some years ago I was working as a garbage man for the city. Pretty much every day we'd stop for lunch at one particular gas station/convenience store to get their hot dogs which were 2 for $1 back then. Well, there was a guy who'd stop in nearly every day at the same time we were there and always seemed to stare over at us. One day he said "Must be a pretty good paying job." Well, I really believed he was being a bit snide, so I said "Yep, $3 an hour and all you can eat!", while reaching into the hopper of the garbage truck. He didn't wait around to see what I was pulling out...which would have been nothing...and he never again looked our way when he was going into the store. Certainly intending on getting that marrow out. Trying to figure out the best way to do that without compromising the structure of the bone (I don't want to make it anymore soft than it is.)
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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 26, 2020 22:14:13 GMT -5
If you're really going to try this...and it sounds as though you are, Eric is probably right with this assessment unless you boil that marrow out of the bones. If you don't, I predict it will begin to rot before the batch is done...maybe not. This reminds me of a story for some reason... Twenty-some years ago I was working as a garbage man for the city. Pretty much every day we'd stop for lunch at one particular gas station/convenience store to get their hot dogs which were 2 for $1 back then. Well, there was a guy who'd stop in nearly every day at the same time we were there and always seemed to stare over at us. One day he said "Must be a pretty good paying job." Well, I really believed he was being a bit snide, so I said "Yep, $3 an hour and all you can eat!", while reaching into the hopper of the garbage truck. He didn't wait around to see what I was pulling out...which would have been nothing...and he never again looked our way when he was going into the store. Certainly intending on getting that marrow out. Trying to figure out the best way to do that without compromising the structure of the bone (I don't want to make it anymore soft than it is.) See if others chime in, but the only way I can think to do it would be to split the ribs lengthwise then scrape it out. Maybe boil the bones afterward... I'm just throwing out thoughts. Interesting idea and I'll be watching to see the outcome.
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Benathema
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Post by Benathema on Nov 27, 2020 1:04:01 GMT -5
I... I Don't think I could have predicted what I'm reading here when I saw the the thread title... Lol
Um... I am interested in seeing how this plays out. I am curious. Good or bad.
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Post by Mel on Nov 27, 2020 13:12:36 GMT -5
I predict bones full of grit and not much else... Ever had bones in your kitchen trash can for a week? If it doesn't blow the lids off the barrels from fermentation/rot, it'll make you pass out or at the very least dry heave when you pop the lid. Exactly.
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Post by RickB on Nov 27, 2020 15:53:56 GMT -5
Cody I always use this for slurry. Has sugar in it and will stick to the ribs.
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Post by mohs on Nov 27, 2020 16:31:40 GMT -5
that 'sweet baby ray' sauce is cajun and the maker is a proprietor of major eateries in Phoenix I've attend a couple mardi gras celebration there
look up 'Rosie On The House' KTAR Radio
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reeniebeany
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Post by reeniebeany on Nov 28, 2020 20:15:37 GMT -5
CodyW, I am betting if you boil the bones after you saw them into chunks you might be ok. I had similar bones for a craft project that I just boiled and didn't cut. They never got smelly. I didn't enclose them in a tumbler of course. One of the cats thought they were a great toy - The irregular shape makes them less predictable when you bat them around. Please post up the results, it will be interesting to know be it successful or not.
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Cody
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Post by Cody on Dec 11, 2020 9:21:09 GMT -5
Oof. Had a hard few weeks and I haven't even gotten around to the experiment yet! Caught COVID (luckily me and my family are fine.) and I just hadn't been well enough to continue this.
I do know the risks here though! I'm perfectly fine with the risks, the smell, it's an experiment after all! The fun is seeing what happens.
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 11, 2020 9:32:08 GMT -5
Oof. Had a hard few weeks and I haven't even gotten around to the experiment yet! Caught COVID (luckily me and my family are fine.) and I just hadn't been well enough to continue this. I do know the risks here though! I'm perfectly fine with the risks, the smell, it's an experiment after all! The fun is seeing what happens. Wow. Bad news you got it, but thank goodness you guys were amongst the people who came through just fine! That I mean very seriously. Now that the "serious" and "sincere" has been put out there...I have to make the not so serious comments. I've been watching for an update on this experiment. I was afraid you had too much "ribbing" from people to continue it! And of course, if you had lost your sense of smell while you had Covid, that might have been the perfect time to do the experiment! Back to serious...I really am curious to see how this would turn out, and hope you are able to tell/show the results.
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Cody
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Post by Cody on Dec 11, 2020 9:44:18 GMT -5
Oof. Had a hard few weeks and I haven't even gotten around to the experiment yet! Caught COVID (luckily me and my family are fine.) and I just hadn't been well enough to continue this. I do know the risks here though! I'm perfectly fine with the risks, the smell, it's an experiment after all! The fun is seeing what happens. Wow. Bad news you got it, but thank goodness you guys were amongst the people who came through just fine! That I mean very seriously. Now that the "serious" and "sincere" has been put out there...I have to make the not so serious comments. I've been watching for an update on this experiment. I was afraid you had too much "ribbing" from people to continue it! And of course, if you had lost your sense of smell while you had Covid, that might have been the perfect time to do the experiment! Back to serious...I really am curious to see how this would turn out, and hope you are able to tell/show the results. For sure! I had set up some tumblers a few days ago with aluminum oxide so I'll have to wait a few days before I get to this (my other tumblers are tumbling some real rough pieces of banded chert and have been for months) so expect something possibly this weekend as I get going!
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 24, 2020 7:49:55 GMT -5
Any news on the progress?
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Post by RickB on Dec 24, 2020 12:31:38 GMT -5
pu·ree /pyo͝oˈrā,pyo͝oˈrē/
noun a smooth, creamy substance made of liquidized or crushed fruit or vegetables. "stir in the tomato puree"
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reeniebeany
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Post by reeniebeany on Jan 25, 2021 12:02:03 GMT -5
Hey Cody, any updates on this? Still interested, but we understand if it got put on the back burner while you recover, or cool rocks jumped queue.
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 25, 2021 13:13:46 GMT -5
Hey Cody, any updates on this? Still interested, but we understand if it got put on the back burner while you recover, or cool rocks jumped queue. I've been wondering too...but he hasn't been back online since Dec 12th...
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