pizzano
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Post by pizzano on Jan 1, 2021 15:58:45 GMT -5
Took an overdue inventory and shot a few pic's of my working blade collection the day after Christmas.......partly because it's time to re-new my home owners personal property insurance and partly because the collection has grown some since last photo's........also added the newer firearms and wife's recent jewelry (not shown). The more "valuable" blade collection has not grown since last photo'd, and is locked away in my son's very large gun safe.....it weighs over 750lbs empty....lol
This and the other collections will some day be my Son's and Grandson's.........My Son kids me all the time about letting loose of his favorites while I'm still around to enjoy his joy... lol...as if he doesn't get to use them now.....lol.........In time my Son, in due time........lol
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 1, 2021 16:40:29 GMT -5
That's a lot of knives! I don't know enough about them to really comment. However, I did let go of some of my things to the kids before I croaked. I get the benefit of seeing them enjoy the things more than me since they were basically put away.
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Post by victor1941 on Jan 1, 2021 17:08:33 GMT -5
What a superb collection! Fantastic colors and designs.
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Post by Peruano on Jan 1, 2021 17:09:15 GMT -5
So with that impressive collection, you must belong to one or more of the many knife forums. I recently started to explore that community because I have a few vintage and quality knives, but was somewhat frustrated trying to decide which were just shells for selling and which bordered on the fringe of the survival/firearm gang. Do you have a forum for pocket or working knives that you find to be active and credible? I mostly interested in how to maintain, evaluate, and collect knives that come my way semi-opportunistically.
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Post by victor1941 on Jan 1, 2021 17:11:47 GMT -5
What a superb collection! Fantastic colors and designs.
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pizzano
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Post by pizzano on Jan 1, 2021 18:21:51 GMT -5
So with that impressive collection, you must belong to one or more of the many knife forums. I recently started to explore that community because I have a few vintage and quality knives, but was somewhat frustrated trying to decide which were just shells for selling and which bordered on the fringe of the survival/firearm gang. Do you have a forum for pocket or working knives that you find to be active and credible? I mostly interested in how to maintain, evaluate, and collect knives that come my way semi-opportunistically. Nope....I do not belong to any firearms or knife related forums. There are a few reasons why.....:
My Son recently got certified in Firearms Technology, he's what I believe they call a "stage 2" meaning he has limitations as to the type of firearms he can build, restore, repair, sell and evaluate for auction......he pursued it mainly to gain more knowledge and purchasing avenues. He was repairing (prior) many types under the guidance of one of his very close friends who has been certified for many years, licensed as a FFL dealer and owns a small business that supports his day job as a long haul truck driver......my son is also a licensed gun range Marshall......I continuously learn from him all of the time.......and blame me for getting him interested in the first place.....he does......lol
My Dad was an avid Japanese sword and knife collector. I inherited his collection's and gained much related knowledge in my youth, from him.
Like most of "public" internet information hub's, unless you already have a pretty good foundation of fact's and truth's, the majority of public firearm and blade forums I have knowledge of, have become nothing more than a "Facebook" social affair. Weeding through the BS is not my cup of tea...! That said, there are "member" only sites, "pay to play and support" that are very reliable. However, those that are the most informative require being an active member of a related association, ie. law enforcement, military, licensed gunsmith, practicing/active certifiable metal smith.......ect.ect..!
So, you see.........I rely mostly on my and my son's knowledge.....if we can't figure it out, we have friends that can......lol
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pizzano
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Post by pizzano on Jan 1, 2021 18:32:05 GMT -5
That's a lot of knives! I don't know enough about them to really comment. However, I did let go of some of my things to the kids before I croaked. I get the benefit of seeing them enjoy the things more than me since they were basically put away. Ya, both of my kids are enjoying quite a few of Mom & Dad relics now.........But some are still to close to the heart (sentimental), being used or maintained by us. We practice an open door/arms policy around here.......all they've got to do is ask and have a good reason other than just "want".....99% of the time we let loose.....lol |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 1, 2021 18:33:54 GMT -5
That's a lot of knives! I don't know enough about them to really comment. However, I did let go of some of my things to the kids before I croaked. I get the benefit of seeing them enjoy the things more than me since they were basically put away. Ya, both of my kids are enjoying quite a few of Mom & Dad relics now.........But some are still to close to the heart (sentimental), being used or maintained by us. We practice an open door/arms policy around here.......all they've got to do is ask and have a good reason other than just "want".....99% of the time we let loose.....lol Yup, sounds about right.  I can't take it with me- but I'm not letting go of my rocks just yet. LOL! |
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Post by RWA3006 on Jan 5, 2021 0:24:21 GMT -5
A man after my own heart. Carry on.
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Post by rmf on Jan 5, 2021 7:01:36 GMT -5
That's a lot of knives! I don't know enough about them to really comment. However, I did let go of some of my things to the kids before I croaked. I get the benefit of seeing them enjoy the things more than me since they were basically put away. Lucky you! Our kid wants nothing his parent have, especially rocks. |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 5, 2021 8:44:37 GMT -5
That's a lot of knives! I don't know enough about them to really comment. However, I did let go of some of my things to the kids before I croaked. I get the benefit of seeing them enjoy the things more than me since they were basically put away. Lucky you! Our kid wants nothing his parent have, especially rocks. They can't have my rocks- but they have gotten plenty of other stuff. They aren't greedy, though. I just decided these things were ready to move on to them. If they don't want any of it, they can toss or give away.
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Post by greig on Jan 5, 2021 14:10:12 GMT -5
I have always liked a quality knife and enjoyed looking at your collection. I have a few the same as in the picture. None are retired, but I tend to carry a modern pocket knife nowadays. Probably my Spider gets the most use. I guess I should put the older ones into the safe.
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Post by pizzano on Jan 5, 2021 18:08:01 GMT -5
I have always liked a quality knife and enjoyed looking at your collection. I have a few the same as in the picture. None are retired, but I tend to carry a modern pocket knife nowadays. Probably my Spider gets the most use. I guess I should put the older ones into the safe. Glad you enjoyed the selection of "working" knives......
I'm not sure what you mean by "modern", outside of the blade metal quality, etching, locking mechanisms and handle material, the traditional folding pocket knife design and construction hasn't changed much over the last couple of centuries or so. Same goes for fixed blades. If gas and electric welds were implemented (which is not the case with these), that would qualify as in the last 100yrs.
Types and Styles.......:
Barlow Canoe Congress
Copperhead Gun Stock
Muskrat Peanut Pen Knife Sow Belly Stockman Toothpick Trapper Whittier
There are only a few of those shown that have any real $ value. Many were massed produced and have been sold everywhere for years.......However, few if any, even if same style, manufacture or age, are identical. Each has a nuance, to the trained eye, that separates them from one and another. In this collection there are 5 that are over 50yrs old, 1 over 60yrs and 4 over 40 yrs old.......the two worth any real money are less than 10yrs old........lol
Personally, I wouldn't (and don't) put them away for "safe" keeping unless there is a sentimental or serious economic value. I add them to my personal property insurance as to help replace or recover in the event of theft & identify if related to the commission of a crime........not because they are monetarily important. I just enjoy having a variety and never wearing any of them out...!
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Post by wpotterw on Jan 5, 2021 20:10:52 GMT -5
I have always liked a quality knife and enjoyed looking at your collection. I have a few the same as in the picture. None are retired, but I tend to carry a modern pocket knife nowadays. Probably my Spider gets the most use. I guess I should put the older ones into the safe. Glad you enjoyed the selection of "working" knives......
I'm not sure what you mean by "modern", outside of the blade metal quality, etching, locking mechanisms and handle material, the traditional folding pocket knife design and construction hasn't changed much over the last couple of centuries or so. Same goes for fixed blades. If gas and electric welds were implemented (which is not the case with these), that would qualify as in the last 100yrs.
Types and Styles.......:
Barlow Canoe Congress
Copperhead Gun Stock
Muskrat Peanut Pen Knife Sow Belly Stockman Toothpick Trapper Whittier
There are only a few of those shown that have any real $ value. Many were massed produced and have been sold everywhere for years.......However, few if any, even if same style, manufacture or age, are identical. Each has a nuance, to the trained eye, that separates them from one and another. In this collection there are 5 that are over 50yrs old, 1 over 60yrs and 4 over 40 yrs old.......the two worth any real money are less than 10yrs old........lol
Personally, I wouldn't (and don't) put them away for "safe" keeping unless there is a sentimental or serious economic value. I add them to my personal property insurance as to help replace or recover in the event of theft & identify if related to the commission of a crime........not because they are monetarily important. I just enjoy having a variety and never wearing any of them out...!
We just moved and had to downsize, so I sold about $800 worth of knives collected over the last 55 years. I still have more than I should, but I can't help it. My favorites are my Prohawk Lakota and my Frost Cutlery Arapaho with the patented bolster lock, which seems to have disappeared when Frost was bought/sold/whatever. |
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Post by pizzano on Jan 5, 2021 21:50:42 GMT -5
wpotterw.................Sorry to hear you had to give up some of your inventory. As you are aware, the age of the tool does not always represent value. More often than not, condition, production run, where built and quality of construction and materials are the main factors. But a good old (prior to 1995) Case or Buck in decent condition will hold it's value........if you're into USA made.
Back when the "Frost" steel was manufactured and forged in Japan, Pakistan and Germany.........I purchased quite a few from that product line. Still use today. I'll still purchase a Hen & Rooster from them occasionally, but nothing else.........to the best of my current knowledge, Frost Cutlery is still owned and operated by the Frost Family......rumors of change rotate around this company now because of the back log of China material they pumped out (still) for the last 6 years. Pakistan material dried up because of political embargo, Japan material became to expensive for them to continue selling (none of their swords, Kantana/Wakizashi are made in Japan) inexpensively and their "German Steel" line is now questionable, outside of the Hen & Rooster product.
I'll more than likely slow down my purchases, since my clan takes good care of that aspect and my Son has become somewhat of an aficionado and knows he'll eventually get a return on his investment (inheritance).......lol
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Post by wpotterw on Jan 6, 2021 10:56:04 GMT -5
wpotterw.................Sorry to hear you had to give up some of your inventory. As you are aware, the age of the tool does not always represent value. More often than not, condition, production run, where built and quality of construction and materials are the main factors. But a good old (prior to 1995) Case or Buck in decent condition will hold it's value........if you're into USA made.
Back when the "Frost" steel was manufactured and forged in Japan, Pakistan and Germany.........I purchased quite a few from that product line. Still use today. I'll still purchase a Hen & Rooster from them occasionally, but nothing else.........to the best of my current knowledge, Frost Cutlery is still owned and operated by the Frost Family......rumors of change rotate around this company now because of the back log of China material they pumped out (still) for the last 6 years. Pakistan material dried up because of political embargo, Japan material became to expensive for them to continue selling (none of their swords, Kantana/Wakizashi are made in Japan) inexpensively and their "German Steel" line is now questionable, outside of the Hen & Rooster product.
I'll more than likely slow down my purchases, since my clan takes good care of that aspect and my Son has become somewhat of an aficionado and knows he'll eventually get a return on his investment (inheritance).......lol
Three Case knives contributed significantly to my take (all yard sale finds < $10). Another winner was a cheap switchblade I bought in Germany in 1993 for about $5. It had army tank green plastic scales and a black switch, still had the box. It went for over $100. The big winner was a Navy MK1(?) training bayonet which was apparently very rare due to the manufacturer, like $600 +/-. On favorites, I forgot to mention that I still have the Schrade Uncle Henry LB 7 that I bought in 1989. Still feels good in my hand, perfect balance. Not sure why Frost stopped using the bolster lock technology, I thought it was pretty cool. Bill |
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Post by pizzano on Jan 6, 2021 12:12:36 GMT -5
"Bolster" locking mechanisms loosen up over time due to the pin or nail that holds the knife together at the head or heal not being "seated" properly to begin with. If you've ever noticed most inexpensive folders have a little blade wiggle at the head where the bolster, liner, spring and blade shank come together. Not a good thing and I won't purchase any folder with that issue, regardless if it's a friction, slip joint, liner, frame, back, button or lever lock.........It's difficult to repair, after market, since the whole concept relies on the pin/nail pressure against the bolster to be seated properly during manufacturing, when the integrity of the force applied has not been compromised in any way....!
Sounds like you did good with some of your sales.......replacement cost for many well made tools can be expensive, that's why I tend to hold onto most of mine and take care when being used.......the proper tool for the job application requires variety, thus, one of the reasons my collections have grown........lol
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Post by Fossilman on Jan 7, 2021 10:34:05 GMT -5
Nice set of knives...
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Win
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Post by Win on Jan 13, 2021 11:27:27 GMT -5
Not sure how I missed this, very nice collection. I've collected custom knives for over 30 years, buying and selling to improve my collection. I stopped really collecting several years ago, lately I just buy a few a year, mostly from friends on a knife forum.
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I can't take it with me- but I'm not letting go of my rocks just yet. LOL!
