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Post by knave on Sept 28, 2021 18:27:00 GMT -5
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Post by amygdule on Sept 28, 2021 19:10:09 GMT -5
Are you Dick Cheney We must consume more Dogshit to keep the Economy Going...
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Post by knave on Sept 28, 2021 19:30:12 GMT -5
No I don’t like the consumer lifestyle we have developed. Hard to swim against the current especially with 4 kids. I wish we could all get along and be good people.
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Benathema
has rocks in the head
God chased me down and made sure I knew He was real June 20, 2022. I've been on a Divine Mission.
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Post by Benathema on Sept 28, 2021 19:42:49 GMT -5
Maybe not the most carbon-neutral thing I've done, but I saved up aluminum cans for 2 years then melted them down into ingots a few years back. I've had some casting projects in mind and I think I'm going to make it a point to do them this winter. Trash to treasure kind of thing.
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Post by knave on Sept 28, 2021 20:59:42 GMT -5
Our garbage (we do have a lot) goes to the county incinerator which is a power plant as well. They do have to meet stringent requirements for emissions.
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Post by stephan on Sept 28, 2021 22:33:41 GMT -5
Our garbage (we do have a lot) goes to the county incinerator which is a power plant as well. They do have to meet stringent requirements for emissions. If we are going to burn something for energy, our garbage makes sense. Not only is it better to emit CO 2 than methane, but the toxic pollutants are easier to catch in scrubbers than to try to prevent leaching. I believe it is only a matter of time before we start mining our landfills. They are probably more concentrated sources of the things that we need (and “need”) than other mines. And the metals are likely in states that are more ready to use.
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Post by stephan on Sept 28, 2021 22:38:00 GMT -5
One thing I forgot to mention: we “pre-compost” many of our food scraps (anything from fruits and veggies to the fat trimmed off meat) by passing them through chickens. This yields potent fertilizer as well as happy chickens.
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Post by knave on Sept 28, 2021 22:40:39 GMT -5
Oh that reminds me I do remember when we had feeder pigs and we fed them some scraps from breakfast I remember thinking those pigs were cannibals
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Post by stephan on Sept 28, 2021 23:09:27 GMT -5
The only reason our chickens are not cannibals is because we don’t give them chicken scraps — just beef and pork.
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Post by jasoninsd on Sept 28, 2021 23:51:36 GMT -5
Oh that reminds me I do remember when we had feeder pigs and we fed them some scraps from breakfast I remember thinking those pigs were cannibals Yeah...but everyone loves bacon!
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Post by stephan on Sept 29, 2021 0:18:32 GMT -5
Oh that reminds me I do remember when we had feeder pigs and we fed them some scraps from breakfast I remember thinking those pigs were cannibals Yeah...but everyone loves bacon! Even deer. I remember on one trip, people I was with were feeding the deer with leftovers, which is already wrong, but that fact that they loved bacon was a tad disturbing.
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Post by jasoninsd on Sept 29, 2021 0:24:34 GMT -5
Yeah...but everyone loves bacon! Even deer. I remember on one trip, people I was with were feeding the deer with leftovers, which is already wrong, but that fact that they loved bacon was a tad disturbing. Someone posted a video on here of a deer eating a bird...and not the cooked kind! That was disturbing! LOL
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Chris Sikk
having dreams about rocks
Member since September 2021
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Post by Chris Sikk on Sept 29, 2021 2:05:00 GMT -5
Our garbage (we do have a lot) goes to the county incinerator which is a power plant as well. They do have to meet stringent requirements for emissions. If we are going to burn something for energy, our garbage makes sense. Not only is it better to emit CO 2 than methane, but the toxic pollutants are easier to catch in scrubbers than to try to prevent leaching. I believe it is only a matter of time before we start mining our landfills. They are probably more concentrated sources of the things that we need (and “need”) than other mines. And the metals are likely in states that are more ready to use. Our waste management actually does the separation, so everything "recyclable" goes in one bin. I toured the facility a few years ago. The trash itself is also sorted and they grab the organics and make compost. The rest goes to a fairly new plant that is a private company partnering with the city, where they produce ethanol and methanol. The gases from the landfills are captured and used to create electricity. There are pros to a lot of what they do there. Of course, we still live in a world motivated by money. So if it doesn't pay to recycle, they do not do it. For example, when I toured they were not recycling glass at the facility. They still accepted it, and it was on the list of items that go in the blue recycle bin. However, it went to the landfill because glass was cheaper than recycled glass. Last year they were expanding their compost operation into a 3rd building. It's been very successful for them.
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Post by rockjunquie on Sept 29, 2021 8:53:19 GMT -5
Y'all are gonna hate this- we don't have recycling where we live. We have private pick up, not municipal. But, we are very frugal and get all we can out of everything. This was born out of extreme poverty and the habits stuck.
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Post by amygdule on Sept 29, 2021 11:25:35 GMT -5
Instant Coffee jars work well for my pet house spiders
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 29, 2021 12:00:57 GMT -5
Years ago, we kept a giant desert hairy scorpion in a gallon glass jar, on the counter in our bathroom for over a year! It was a great conversation starter.
But then, most people could not get over the quantity of pet snakes in our home. A mobilehome, at that.
ETA - There are only two persons living in our house hold. We put out a 1/3 to 1/2 filled kitchen trash bag of trash per week. We recycle everything that our waste company will take, we have a large bin for green waste. We put most green waste in the mulch pile. We don't put aluminum cans in the recycle bin, those I save to recycle myself for the CRV, which was desinged to get people to recycle. It's not for scrappers/homeless to go through your cans (making a mess, while they are at it!) when out at the curb.
Recycling starts at the grocery store, don't purchase over packaged "instant" foods in plastics.
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Post by stephan on Sept 29, 2021 13:03:07 GMT -5
If we are going to burn something for energy, our garbage makes sense. Not only is it better to emit CO 2 than methane, but the toxic pollutants are easier to catch in scrubbers than to try to prevent leaching. I believe it is only a matter of time before we start mining our landfills. They are probably more concentrated sources of the things that we need (and “need”) than other mines. And the metals are likely in states that are more ready to use. Our waste management actually does the separation, so everything "recyclable" goes in one bin. I toured the facility a few years ago. The trash itself is also sorted and they grab the organics and make compost. The rest goes to a fairly new plant that is a private company partnering with the city, where they produce ethanol and methanol. The gases from the landfills are captured and used to create electricity. There are pros to a lot of what they do there. Of course, we still live in a world motivated by money. So if it doesn't pay to recycle, they do not do it. For example, when I toured they were not recycling glass at the facility. They still accepted it, and it was on the list of items that go in the blue recycle bin. However, it went to the landfill because glass was cheaper than recycled glass. Last year they were expanding their compost operation into a 3rd building. It's been very successful for them. Nice that they separate it. I think that's the way to go if you want full compliance. I hear that in some places, the workers have found substantial amounts of cash, and that in some places it's "finders, keepers." Too bad about the glass. They could at least throw it into the ocean and replenish some of our glass beaches (especially the cobalt blue and red varieties, which are increasingly difficult to find).
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Post by amygdule on Sept 29, 2021 13:17:59 GMT -5
When I started recycling 45 years ago, picking up cans from the roadside Collecting a nickel a piece going to the store to return them and buy more candy for my chemistry dept...
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Post by amygdule on Sept 29, 2021 13:26:21 GMT -5
At the old transfer station We had to separate all the different types :
Glass Paper Plastic Metal
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Post by parfive on Sept 29, 2021 13:47:46 GMT -5
Paper route when I was a kid. Junkyard paid half a cent a pound for newspapers.
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