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Post by amygdule on Oct 27, 2021 17:19:40 GMT -5
Does anybody recognize this kind of porcelain ? This shard is 2 3/8" tall I found it in some old ruins that were occupied back in the 1920's Thank you
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Post by jasoninsd on Oct 27, 2021 21:23:23 GMT -5
I'm wicked curious. I Googled "antique ceramic blue peacock" and couldn't find a match. I even used Google Lens to try and find a match...but to no avail. Things like this really intrigue me...
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Post by amygdule on Oct 27, 2021 22:02:18 GMT -5
I thought the bird looked more like a pheasant than a peacock. There is a pattern called "Blue Asiatic Pheasant" Still searching for a match.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Oct 27, 2021 23:35:13 GMT -5
The Chinese were big on the Phoenix, saw a blue and white shard online with that as the design. Do you think it could be Chinese, or maybe Japanese?
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Post by amygdule on Oct 28, 2021 0:22:48 GMT -5
The Chinese were big on the Phoenix, saw a blue and white shard online with that as the design. Do you think it could be Chinese, or maybe Japanese? I have no idea what it is, other than it's a least 100 years old. I usually find a few shards of blue and white ceramics when I go picking along the shoreline. The Phoenix looks like a better match than the peacock and pheasant that I found searching online. Thank you for the tip
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Post by fernwood on Oct 28, 2021 4:35:01 GMT -5
That could be from a piece of Phoenix Ware. It is called Phoenix or Flying Turkey.
The Phoenix in Japan (known as HOWO) appears to be a combination of pheasant and peacock. It is a rare bird that only makes its appearance on earth when spectacular events or a new age of peace and splendor is about to begin. The phoenix is normally shown with its wings spread out as it attacks a serpent with its claws. Borders on the porcelain vary but often contain stylized mountains and clouds known as the Noritake pattern.
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Post by MsAli on Oct 28, 2021 13:49:53 GMT -5
I'm actually gonna say based off the simplicity of the pattern it isn't Asian. Possible Portuguese or Spanish orgin.
Any history on the settlers in that region.
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Post by amygdule on Oct 28, 2021 14:33:20 GMT -5
I'm actually gonna say based off the simplicity of the pattern it isn't Asian. Possible Portuguese or Spanish orgin. Any history on the settlers in that region. Thank you MsAli I found it by searching "Portuguese ceramics phoenix". It turns out to be Japanese. Kind of weird after searching through tons of photos of blue and white ceramics. There was Japanese settlers on the Oregon Coast during that time period. Here's the image that I found at www.chipstone.org . It's slightly different, but the best match so far. Douglas E. Ross Late-Nineteenth--and-Early-Twentieth-Century-Japanese-Domestic-Wares-from-British-ColumbiaFigure 25 Teacup, Japan, ca. 1915. Porcelain. D. 2 3/4". Blue transfer-printed Phoenix Bird pattern
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Post by MsAli on Oct 28, 2021 14:45:54 GMT -5
I'm actually gonna say based off the simplicity of the pattern it isn't Asian. Possible Portuguese or Spanish orgin. Any history on the settlers in that region. Thank you MsAli I found it by searching "Portuguese ceramics phoenix". It turns out to be Japanese. Kind of weird after searching through tons of photos of blue and white ceramics. There was Japanese settlers on the Oregon Coast during that time period. Here's the image that I found at www.chipstone.org . It's slightly different, but the best match so far. Douglas E. Ross Late-Nineteenth--and-Early-Twentieth-Century-Japanese-Domestic-Wares-from-British-ColumbiaFigure 25 Teacup, Japan, ca. 1915. Porcelain. D. 2 3/4". Blue transfer-printed Phoenix Bird pattern Sweet! I would not only guessed Japan just based off the simplicity. You learned me something.. That's a great find!
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Post by Peruano on Oct 28, 2021 15:36:44 GMT -5
Bingo. The power of the web and interested folks.
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Post by amygdule on Oct 28, 2021 18:45:55 GMT -5
Thank you folks for the help
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Post by rockpickerforever on Oct 28, 2021 19:32:43 GMT -5
Thank you folks for the help You're welcome 'dule! Glad this mystery was solved so quickly. I knew it was a Phoenix, and I knew it was Asian!
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Post by LazerFlash on Oct 29, 2021 23:05:09 GMT -5
I'm a little late coming to this party, but I would suggest you bring the fragment to a local antiques store or two. You might get an even narrower id than you've already figured out. Never underestimate the powers of a bored antiquarian!
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Post by jasoninsd on Oct 29, 2021 23:46:08 GMT -5
I'm a little late coming to this party, but I would suggest you bring the fragment to a local antiques store or two. You might get an even narrower id than you've already figured out. Never underestimate the powers of a bored antiquarian! Maybe I'm just overly tired...but this just struck me as extremely funny! (Maybe because it's SO true! LOL)
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Post by Pat on Oct 30, 2021 0:01:51 GMT -5
…. And it is already cabbed!!
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Post by stephan on Oct 31, 2021 22:12:50 GMT -5
That could be from a piece of Phoenix Ware. It is called Phoenix or Flying Turkey. The Phoenix in Japan (known as HOWO) appears to be a combination of pheasant and peacock. It is a rare bird that only makes its appearance on earth when spectacular events or a new age of peace and splendor is about to begin. The phoenix is normally shown with its wings spread out as it attacks a serpent with its claws. Borders on the porcelain vary but often contain stylized mountains and clouds known as the Noritake pattern. Noritake = seaweed mushroom. LOL. I’m going to guess that some European dude missed a diacritical mark or two and mis-translated some hiragana. A beautiful piece.
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