<'))))>< Fish
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Post by <'))))>< Fish on Mar 26, 2022 17:55:59 GMT -5
Is it real or ? click on photo to see video
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 26, 2022 18:27:33 GMT -5
It's very unusual. Unless shadows are playing tricks on my eyes it appears to be a doublet: a thin slice of opal cemented to a black backing stone. I see what appears to to be the black surrounding the colored area especially in the video. I've been cutting opals for more than 50 years and I've never seen a stone quite like it but who can see everything in that short time? There are areas in the layering that appear entirely natural; others that seem strange to me. Any idea of source? Indonesia? It strikes me as possibly being a "wood opal" from that region but I'm not putting money on that guess. Hoping for input from opalpyrexia and hummingbirdstones and Vince.
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Post by vegasjames on Mar 26, 2022 18:50:45 GMT -5
Does not look like opal at all. Actually looks more like a reflective paint under glass. If you look at the video frame by frame you will notice that the bands are visible at all angles, just a change of color within those bands. Not consistent with opal. Also appears to be under a flat sheet of glass. You can see it is flat and scratched towards the end of the video.
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Post by <'))))>< Fish on Mar 26, 2022 18:58:15 GMT -5
this came from a lady in Peru about 40 years ago
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Post by opalpyrexia on Mar 26, 2022 19:40:07 GMT -5
My immediate reaction was that it's a doublet and probably opal, but I agree with gemfeller and vegasjames that it looks odd. The thick green band and the thinner one just above it do look like opal. The saturated pumpkin orange color is something that I've never seen in opal. I have seen orange fire which is fairly common, but nothing quite like that. Can you post a photo showing its underside?
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Post by <'))))>< Fish on Mar 26, 2022 19:59:34 GMT -5
wish i can show you the back, the stone is in a setting.
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Post by vegasjames on Mar 26, 2022 20:38:58 GMT -5
Here is a video where you can see what I am talking about. Note when he moves the opal around the colors and lines go in and out.
In the stone you are showing as you move the ring around the lines of color remain instead of going in and out like with real opal. The colors of the lines may change, but the lines remain visible at all angles, which is not consistent with real opal. That is why it looks to me like reflective paint under glass.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Mar 26, 2022 21:20:41 GMT -5
I have to agree with vegasjames. I watched the video a few times and the lines never change, just the color. The dark (black?) part really doesn't change at all. I could see the black backing gemfeller saw and also the flat glass top which would make it a triplet of whatever is actually in between those 2 layers. Pretty positive it isn't opal.
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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 27, 2022 14:33:59 GMT -5
My first reaction was that it was a doublet with an opal which has that one blue flash and then colored epoxy of some sort underneath.
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Post by amygdule on Mar 27, 2022 16:33:08 GMT -5
I'm no expert, but that looks like an opal doublet to me. Color patterns and Color Play can be variable in the same stone. Depending on the way they are cut. Here's a couple of pics of an Wood Opal doublet from Nevada.
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Post by Pat on Mar 27, 2022 21:00:34 GMT -5
I know nothing about opals, but the first thing I noticed was the poor soldering job on the right, so I ask myself why would someone put such an unusual stone in such a poor setting.
1- stone is not special 2- the soldering job is really part of something more lovely than it appears.
Can we see a more inclusive shot?
Just a thought. Thanks.
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Post by <'))))>< Fish on Mar 28, 2022 11:55:07 GMT -5
PAT
this was made more than 40 years ago in Perú
You right the solder is not the best.
I pack it away getting ready for the Vista Show.
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