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Post by miket on May 21, 2022 7:54:01 GMT -5
Sorry my friend, hard to "like" this post! I've seen very few Fairburns stabbed with great results, and any I've ever cut were pretty much duds inside also. But that won't keep us from trying, will it? Plus, it's an excuse to go find more! 😁 Oh yeah..I'll keep going out for the abuse. LOL You and me both!
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Post by hummingbirdstones on May 21, 2022 9:46:30 GMT -5
Well that sucks, but c'est la vie.
Gotta go find more.
Question - can you tumble them to see if the fortifications on the outside skin will come through and polish up? They would make nice specimens like that.
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Post by jasoninsd on May 21, 2022 9:54:16 GMT -5
Well that sucks, but c'est la vie. Gotta go find more. Question - can you tumble them to see if the fortifications on the outside skin will come through and polish up? They would make nice specimens like that. I can...but the chunk that came off the big one is the nicest fortification pattern...but there's a big druzy in the center. So it'll be a pain...but I think it's what I'm going to do...
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Post by aDave on May 21, 2022 12:28:58 GMT -5
I did know I could download Google Maps offline...but I don't think it would allow me to pinpoint my exact location on the map since there's no cell reception...or at least that's my understanding. The beauty of offline maps is that the GPS in your phone is not reliant on a cell signal at all, so an offline map will still work. It may not have all of the searchable features or layers available, but you will be able to see yourself on the map. You would be able to enter an address, for instance, if you needed to navigate. But, you wouldn't necessarily be able to do a point of interest search unless it was really, really common and is labeled on the map. As mentioned, I used offline Google Maps a couple of weeks ago on a Utah trip. We visited all of the National Parks and offline maps were valuable because cell service was inconsistent. Even though cell service may have been nonexistent in places, we could navigate and see ourselves on the map. If you want to test it, put your phone in airplane mode to see what works for you. GPS will stilll function, so you'll get a good idea of what it would be like "in the wild." If you want to get into things further, get yourself an app like Gaia GPS. It's free, and it's usually pretty highly rated. I have occasionally used it, but I haven't really dug into it to check out all the features. ETA: I have to do a slight fix here. While Gaia GPS offers a free version, the ability to download offline maps only comes with a paid subscription. I think I confused with another mapping program for geocaching which is called C:Geo. Hmmm...I just opened up Gaia (in airplane mode), and a map loads and shows my location. I may have to test this out tomorrow since I'll be in an area without cell service. And, if you REALLY want to go for it, take a look at Onx Hunt. I don't have this, but videos I've seen about it make it look pretty impressive. What might come in handy for someone like you is you can see property lines and get ownership information which might be a benefit for you in getting access to some areas in SD. It does have a subscription price (annual), but depending how you use it, it may pay for itself if it leads you to good finds. Sorry for the length, as I know its more than you probably needed or wanted.
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Post by jasoninsd on May 21, 2022 12:34:25 GMT -5
I did know I could download Google Maps offline...but I don't think it would allow me to pinpoint my exact location on the map since there's no cell reception...or at least that's my understanding. The beauty of offline maps is that the GPS in your phone is not reliant on a cell signal at all, so an offline map will still work. It may not have all of the searchable features or layers available, but you will be able to see yourself on the map. You would be able to enter an address, for instance, if you needed to navigate. But, you wouldn't necessarily be able to do a point of interest search unless it was really, really common and is labeled on the map. As mentioned, I used offline Google Maps a couple of weeks ago on a Utah trip. We visited all of the National Parks and offline maps were valuable because cell service was inconsistent. Even though cell service may have been nonexistent in places, we could navigate and see ourselves on the map. If you want to test it, put your phone in airplane mode to see what works for you. GPS will stilll function, so you'll get a good idea of what it would be like "in the wild." If you want to get into things further, get yourself an app like Gaia GPS. It's free, and it's usually pretty highly rated. I have occasionally used it, but I haven't really dug into it to check out all the features. And, if you REALLY want to go for it, take a look at Onx Hunt. I don't have this, but videos I've seen about it make it look pretty impressive. What might come in handy for someone like you is you can see property lines and get ownership information which might be a benefit for you in getting access to some areas in SD. It does have a subscription price (annual), but depending how you use it, it may pay for itself if it leads you to good finds. Sorry for the length, as I know its more than you probably needed or wanted. I used to think I was technologically savvy...but I've come to realize...not so much! LOL Thank you SO much for actually taking the time to write all this! I really had no clue. I didn't realize the GPS worked independently of the cell reception...I thought it worked off of it. And thanks for giving me a couple options. I definitely will be using one - or more - of these next time!!
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Post by aDave on May 21, 2022 15:26:35 GMT -5
I used to think I was technologically savvy...but I've come to realize...not so much! LOL Thank you SO much for actually taking the time to write all this! I really had no clue. I didn't realize the GPS worked independently of the cell reception...I thought it worked off of it. And thanks for giving me a couple options. I definitely will be using one - or more - of these next time!! Glad to help. I'm sure there are probably other apps, but just be sure that they have offline mapping capability. The two I mentioned do. All you have to remember is to download the maps in advance of your trip, as you'll need cell service or wi-fi to do so. Same with Google Maps. ETA: I have to correct myself a bit here. Gaia GPS, while it does offer a free version, the free version supposedly does not allow for offline mapping. To get access to that and other features, you have to subscribe for an annual fee. I thought I'd used it offline before, so I am going to test it tomorrow in a no cell service area.
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Post by aDave on May 22, 2022 18:06:47 GMT -5
jasoninsd Today, I had a chance to see what happened with Gaia GPS in an area with no cell service. Well, the short story is that it didn't work. It was receiving the GPS signal just fine, as I could see my location (an arrow cursor) on the screen, but there was no map detail which made it pretty useless. It looks as if it was trying to download a map overlay from the cloud, but since there was no signal, no joy. Hope this clarifies a bit more.
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Post by jasoninsd on May 22, 2022 18:42:29 GMT -5
jasoninsd Today, I had a chance to see what happened with Gaia GPS in an area with no cell service. Well, the short story is that it didn't work. It was receiving the GPS signal just fine, as I could see my location (an arrow cursor) on the screen, but there was no map detail which made it pretty useless. It looks as if it was trying to download a map overlay from the cloud, but since there was no signal, no joy. Hope this clarifies a bit more. Thanks for the update Dave! I've got a couple places I hound that I know pretty well that don't have cell service...but I won't be going out there for awhile. When I do, I'm going to try the other one's out to see how they do.
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Post by Brian on May 22, 2022 19:26:50 GMT -5
I don't know how I missed this thread, but better late than never. Still an entertaining read even though it lacked the drama of the angry badger. Obnoxious beavers, inconsiderate as they may be, do sound like much better critters to run into in the dark of night. I did run into a rather ornery one years ago in Yellowstone. Five Fairburns (and some lovely Prairie agates) is still a fantastic haul!
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Post by aDave on May 22, 2022 20:39:25 GMT -5
jasoninsd Today, I had a chance to see what happened with Gaia GPS in an area with no cell service. Well, the short story is that it didn't work. It was receiving the GPS signal just fine, as I could see my location (an arrow cursor) on the screen, but there was no map detail which made it pretty useless. It looks as if it was trying to download a map overlay from the cloud, but since there was no signal, no joy. Hope this clarifies a bit more. Thanks for the update Dave! I've got a couple places I hound that I know pretty well that don't have cell service...but I won't be going out there for awhile. When I do, I'm going to try the other one's out to see how they do. If you find something you end up liking, please let me know. As we started this discussion, I've been on the 'net a bit and Google Maps seems to be at the top of the list for stuff like this (offline maps). If you end up going the Onx route (they do have a free trial if I recall), I'd love to see your feedback.
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Post by jasoninsd on May 22, 2022 22:42:46 GMT -5
Thanks for the update Dave! I've got a couple places I hound that I know pretty well that don't have cell service...but I won't be going out there for awhile. When I do, I'm going to try the other one's out to see how they do. If you find something you end up liking, please let me know. As we started this discussion, I've been on the 'net a bit and Google Maps seems to be at the top of the list for stuff like this (offline maps). If you end up going the Onx route (they do have a free trial if I recall), I'd love to see your feedback. I'll definitely let you know what I use and my impression of it...as long as I can find my way back if it doesn't work! LOL - Kidding!
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Post by Sabre52 on May 23, 2022 8:59:20 GMT -5
*LOL* Love the beaver part of the story! They can be quite loud and annoying. Was sitting to the prow of a boat gigging frogs one time on the San Joaquin delta and surprised one of the delta giant beavers (Golden Beaver) Dang thing slapped his tail and I almost fell out of the boat. Dead still out there and the dang huge critter (These guys reach 60-70 pounds) made a sound like a pistol shot.
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Post by jasoninsd on May 23, 2022 14:23:04 GMT -5
*LOL* Love the beaver part of the story! They can be quite loud and annoying. Was sitting to the prow of a boat gigging frogs one time on the San Joaquin delta and surprised one of the delta giant beavers (Golden Beaver) Dang thing slapped his tail and I almost fell out of the boat. Dead still out there and the dang huge critter (These guys reach 60-70 pounds) made a sound like a pistol shot. Thanks Mel! LOL...I know it's okay to say beaver dam...but sometimes it's necessary to say damn beaver as well! LOL
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Post by oregon on May 23, 2022 14:52:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the update Dave! I've got a couple places I hound that I know pretty well that don't have cell service...but I won't be going out there for awhile. When I do, I'm going to try the other one's out to see how they do. If you find something you end up liking, please let me know. As we started this discussion, I've been on the 'net a bit and Google Maps seems to be at the top of the list for stuff like this (offline maps). If you end up going the Onx route (they do have a free trial if I recall), I'd love to see your feedback. You can Check out Avenza as well. I think they patented putting Location data into pdf's, which has unfortunately stymied the competition. Still the free version isn't bad, works without cell service, lets you have three maps currently active (I store the others elsewhere on my phone, load them when needed) there are lots of free maps available from the store (all of the USGS quads etc), and lots of governmental agencies publish free geo-referenced pdfs as well that work with this. (you do need some kind of connection to download maps) Offline satellite imagery is a bit tougher.
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Post by aDave on May 23, 2022 15:06:38 GMT -5
If you find something you end up liking, please let me know. As we started this discussion, I've been on the 'net a bit and Google Maps seems to be at the top of the list for stuff like this (offline maps). If you end up going the Onx route (they do have a free trial if I recall), I'd love to see your feedback. You can Check out Avenza as well. I think they patented putting Location data into pdf's, which has unfortunately stymied the competition. Still the free version isn't bad, works without cell service, lets you have three maps currently active (I store the others elsewhere on my phone, load them when needed) there are lots of free maps available from the store (all of the USGS quads etc), and lots of governmental agencies publish free geo-referenced pdfs as well that work with this. (you do need some kind of connection to download maps) Offline satellite imagery is a bit tougher. Thank you. I'll be sure to check it out. I've not heard of the pdf map concept. This will be interesting to research.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2022 16:38:18 GMT -5
Wow Jason! I read both adventures! Your luck the Mrs. let you back out after your first adventure! My husband used the onx hunt app when he hunted it works really well and they have offline maps too. Like someone else said too it gives property owners info which could be helpful if you Wanted to get permission to access their property.
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Post by jasoninsd on May 25, 2022 17:58:22 GMT -5
Wow Jason! I read both adventures! Your luck the Mrs. let you back out after your first adventure! My husband used the onx hunt app when he hunted it works really well and they have offline maps too. Like someone else said too it gives property owners info which could be helpful if you Wanted to get permission to access their property. Yeah...the first float trip of this year was WAY milder than last year! LOL - It's just the beginning of raft season...so I'm sure there'll be more opportunities to get myself into some "trouble" yet this year! LOL I'm curious to see how those apps work...thanks for chiming in on y'alls experience.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2022 18:01:27 GMT -5
jasoninsd My husband recently got a kayak to fish from. He likes fishing maybe I could convince him we need to do a fishing trip out that way and he could fish and I could rock hound lol! You find some cool stuff!
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Post by jasoninsd on May 25, 2022 18:06:10 GMT -5
jasoninsd My husband recently got a kayak to fish from. He likes fishing maybe I could convince him we need to do a fishing trip out that way and he could fish and I could rock hound lol! You find some cool stuff! Heck Yeah!! I've met up with several members who have come out this way...in fact, I'm meeting up with another one next week who's coming for 5 days. If you guys ever do decide to head out this way, let me know...I can guarantee you I can get you to the rocks...I just can't guarantee any keepers! LOL
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2022 18:12:39 GMT -5
jasoninsd My husband recently got a kayak to fish from. He likes fishing maybe I could convince him we need to do a fishing trip out that way and he could fish and I could rock hound lol! You find some cool stuff! Heck Yeah!! I've met up with several members who have come out this way...in fact, I'm meeting up with another one next week who's coming for 5 days. If you guys ever do decide to head out this way, let me know...I can guarantee you I can get you to the rocks...I just can't guarantee any keepers! LOL I’m sure there would be tons of keepers! I’m not a picky rock collector. Besides agates what do you guys have there?
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