hoolligan1938
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Post by hoolligan1938 on May 28, 2022 10:45:23 GMT -5
I've read some of the information on this site about the Raytech TV-5 vibratory tumbler but am looking for some additional information. The biggest concern I have is "how noisy is this tool" and what grit formulas work best for you. My plan is to use my rotary tumbler for the first stage and then the vibe for 2 thru 5 stages. Do you use it completely dry or do you make a slurry? What is your formula? Your input and suggestions will be appreciated. By the way, The "lot-o" and ultra vibe are a bit pricey and seems like "out of stock" everywhere I look. I guess that tells me what the favorite is.
Thanks for your input.
Jim
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phixer
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Post by phixer on May 28, 2022 18:55:05 GMT -5
The Raytech was just to noisy for me. Ran it with a slurry Ann I could hear the rattle upstairs pretty loud. Ended up with a Lot-O tumbler which is much quieter.
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brybry
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Post by brybry on May 28, 2022 19:17:00 GMT -5
The tv-5 is louder than my uv-45. Plastic bowls will do that.
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jasonshort
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Post by jasonshort on May 28, 2022 22:47:16 GMT -5
It is loud, i have a good recipie if you are interested. Works really well. I run 7 12lb roteries and 3 tv5 vibes
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Post by liveoak on May 29, 2022 6:17:29 GMT -5
I'd be interested in your recipe jasonshort, I've been thinking of picking up the Raytech TV-5 to use after running a batch in my rotary. Thanks, Patty |
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CLErocks
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Post by CLErocks on May 29, 2022 7:32:08 GMT -5
I prefer ceramic media over plastic. It is not recommended for this machine. I passed on it for this reason.
My 2 cents…
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dug
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Post by dug on May 29, 2022 8:20:27 GMT -5
I have had a TV-5 for a little while now. Several batches run through... It is very noisy; I will not run it in the house -- it's banished out to the garage. But it does a good job. The plastic bowls are a problem, not just because of the noise -- they are starting to deteriorate. When they're no longer usable, I won't replace them -- I'll replace the whole unit with something quieter.
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hoolligan1938
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Post by hoolligan1938 on May 29, 2022 9:50:45 GMT -5
Thank you everyone. Very good information. That helps me a lot.
Jim
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hoolligan1938
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Post by hoolligan1938 on May 29, 2022 17:40:37 GMT -5
I just sent a reply to Jason in regards to the TV-5 vibe and noise. Has anyone tried spraying the exterior of the plastic bowl with that automotive spray can undercoat and sound deadener? Just a thought, as I do not have a TV-5 and have not sprayed a bowl. If the exterior of the plastic bowl is very clean, good hot water washing, seems like the sound deadener would stick just fine. I solicit everyone's thoughts and experiences if you've tried this. The only concern that I can think of is if the deadener has any chemical in it that would attack the plastic on the bowl. Are there any chemical engineers in the crowd?
Jim
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muaddib
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Post by muaddib on Oct 10, 2022 10:34:14 GMT -5
Tutorial gives you an idea of sound, although this lady is using metal shot for jewellery cleaning.
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afterburnt
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Post by afterburnt on Nov 17, 2022 10:48:05 GMT -5
I made a cylinder out of acoustic foam with some square pieces on top so there's ventilation space. Now I can easily hold a conversation, the noise is down to a hum.
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hoolligan1938
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Post by hoolligan1938 on Nov 18, 2022 11:07:08 GMT -5
afterburnt - Could you expound a bit on your solution to the noise? What kind of foam, where to obtain it, and how did you attach it. Is it on the outside of the bowl, and the lid? I would like to hear how you completed the whole project. Any particulars or specifications for the foam material or the material used to attach it. Brand names would be helpful.
Thanks,
Jim
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afterburnt
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Post by afterburnt on Nov 18, 2022 13:46:16 GMT -5
afterburnt - Could you expound a bit on your solution to the noise? What kind of foam, where to obtain it, and how did you attach it. Is it on the outside of the bowl, and the lid? I would like to hear how you completed the whole project. Any particulars or specifications for the foam material or the material used to attach it. Brand names would be helpful. Thanks, Jim A pic would be worth 1000 words anyway but I can't post pics. Some call it "egg crate" foam you can get rolls and squares of it on Amazon. It's not very stiff so I made a frame of sorts out of an anti fatigue mat for the bottom and secure it with a bungee cord. In the top of the cylinder i put a couple of the squares backed with cardboard. The whole thing just sets over the tumbler. I would imagine memory foam would be more effective, it's a bit denser just in case you have an old mattress topper laying around. |
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docharber
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Post by docharber on Jul 29, 2024 16:10:53 GMT -5
The biggest factor in reducing the noise of my TV5 is tightening down the rubber covered nuts Also, make sure the edges of the bowl and lid are CLEAN. Much of the noise is generated by vibration of the bowl against the lid. if its really quiet, check to see that the rocks aren't too dry. The machine generates friction and heat in the load which increases evaporation of water as the ground off rock thickens the slurry and you can get a lock up if it gets too dry. Check the tumbler at leas6t twice daily to make sure it is staying moist. Add a teaspoon or so of water if he slurry isn't fairly fluid and shiny. Never run it dry or use the tumbler for initial grinding- you'll ruin the bowl. Otherwise, my bowls hold up very well. Another thing that speeds processing is using a wetting agent like dish detergent, soap shavings, or Borax. Some people use borax with detergent and I don't really understand why. But you can't argue with results. I run my several tumblers in the garage and don't notice the noise. Your TV5 should serve you well for a long time.
One thing more- there's a YouTube video that I think is from Raytech demonstrating the machine They run it half full and don't mention media (ceramic media, tiny tumbled stones, or even tiny garnets as I have done successfully. The pointy is that the vibratory tumblers should be run nearly full. Not too much water, either. CHeck out (here I go again) Rob from Michigan Rocks who has several videos about tumblinhg that are really informative. You can use about the same formulas for your TV5 he uses in his lot_O. The latter, though very expensive, has proven very durable though I have seen recent reviews that concern me about it coming from the factory needing adjustment of the fan mounted weights , premature motor failure and poorly fitted barrel mounting components that do not hold the barrel securely. The companty has changed hands, but hopefully the problems will soon be worked out. Most of the lapidary equipment manufacturers are small businesses that depend on other companies to supply barrels, motors, etc. so quality control is complicated.
Mark H.
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bluesbondsman
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Post by bluesbondsman on Aug 6, 2024 15:49:08 GMT -5
I have the TV-10 and its running behind me in my office in the basement.
Yep it's loud!
I absolutely intend of making a cover out of acoustic foam.
I can't hear it at night with the door shut to the basement and the AC on so....
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mightyoak
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Post by mightyoak on Aug 12, 2024 13:25:36 GMT -5
I know this thread is old, but I want to clarify one of the comments. The TV-10 cannot use ceramic (per the instruction manual) but it is permitted in the TV-5. And yes...the TV-5 is loud!
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