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Post by rockjunquie on Aug 28, 2022 14:14:02 GMT -5
Niiiiice! I think I like the little one best. Do you plan to patina?
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Post by rockbrain on Aug 28, 2022 14:50:18 GMT -5
Thanks rockjunquie Tela. Yes I patina just about everything. I just do several wraps and then have a patina session and do several. I guess I should post a few that are actually finished. I learned a bit about using the liver of Sulphur last time. Who knew you could do more than leave it in there until it turns black? (probably everyone but me) I mixed my LOS kind of weak as I find the reaction really quick. I saw somewhere that if you layer the patina instead of just leaving the piece in there it works better, so I went that route. Dunk in the LOS for a bit, pull it out and rinse in fresh water, then check it out for color. One of the things that happened pretty quickly was a brightening and lightening. It went to almost a gold bronze color. I stopped an neutralized a couple at that point. I really like that finish. I also got a brass brush to remove patina as someone here suggested. It worked good but I was getting some fine scratches from it. Almost like a brushed finish. I got a set of buffing star pads that I'll probably try today with the Dremel to take the patina back.
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Post by rockjunquie on Aug 28, 2022 15:37:26 GMT -5
Thanks rockjunquie Tela. Yes I patina just about everything. I just do several wraps and then have a patina session and do several. I guess I should post a few that are actually finished. I learned a bit about using the liver of Sulphur last time. Who knew you could do more than leave it in there until it turns black? (probably everyone but me) I mixed my LOS kind of weak as I find the reaction really quick. I saw somewhere that if you layer the patina instead of just leaving the piece in there it works better, so I went that route. Dunk in the LOS for a bit, pull it out and rinse in fresh water, then check it out for color. One of the things that happened pretty quickly was a brightening and lightening. It went to almost a gold bronze color. I stopped an neutralized a couple at that point. I really like that finish. I also got a brass brush to remove patina as someone here suggested. It worked good but I was getting some fine scratches from it. Almost like a brushed finish. I got a set of buffing star pads that I'll probably try today with the Dremel to take the patina back. I have a few copper waiting for the bath, too. I'll also wait til I have a few more and then do them.
It's fun to play with patinas. There's lots of recipes. I like the green ones.
I've never had any scratches in the metal from the brass brush. Sometimes, you can see tiny scratches in the patina, but I polish everything after using the brush and they go right away.
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Post by liveoak on Aug 28, 2022 16:25:10 GMT -5
It's an interesting woven wrap & looks nice with the poppy jasper.
When I patina I usually start with an old blue kitchen scrubby, followed by 0000 steel wool.
The steel wool works pretty good.
You might find that the spiders clean out too much.
But you'll find out soon enough I'm sure.
Patty
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 28, 2022 17:08:55 GMT -5
My favorite in the third one.
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Post by jasoninsd on Aug 28, 2022 17:14:38 GMT -5
Another group of great wraps!!
Boy...color me stupid...but I never ran across the "layering" of the LOS! Hmmm...I might have to see what that does versus turning everything as black as I can! LOL
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Post by rockbrain on Aug 28, 2022 19:10:54 GMT -5
Thanks liveoak Patty, I felt like I was starting to get the feel for the weave when I was doing the first one. There was supposed to be a second wire going across the front next to the one that runs down alongside the weave. I left it off and tucked it in the back because the one that I did put down covered up quite a bit more of the stone. Now that I'm looking at it again I think I might pull that twisted one off the front and tuck it in in the back somewhere. That will expose a little more of the stone. Plus, try as I might with wooden tools, I can't get it to stay tight up against the weave. Thanks vegasjames. I like that one too. I find I've really been gravitating towards the long thin shapes lately. Thanks jasoninsd, I don't know if the layering does anything or not, but it does get you to stop and look at the different stages. Washing it off each time you pull it may not stop the oxidation completely but it definitely retards the process. I added some ammonia to the LOS as I read a few different places that that helped with the intensity. My daddy always told me several thin coats were better than one thick one. This doesn't seem like that type of process, may very well be total bs, but who knows. It shouldn't hurt anything. The last batch that I did I used this method and its the best I've done so far.
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Post by liveoak on Aug 28, 2022 19:28:53 GMT -5
Well truth be told, if eliminating that twisted wire is still possible - that would show off more of the stone, and the setting is possibly a little heavy for the size of the stone.
But I do applaud you for your efforts , it's a nice wrap & obviously took a lot of work.
Patty
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Post by jasoninsd on Aug 29, 2022 12:55:22 GMT -5
Thanks liveoak Patty, I felt like I was starting to get the feel for the weave when I was doing the first one. There was supposed to be a second wire going across the front next to the one that runs down alongside the weave. I left it off and tucked it in the back because the one that I did put down covered up quite a bit more of the stone. Now that I'm looking at it again I think I might pull that twisted one off the front and tuck it in in the back somewhere. That will expose a little more of the stone. Plus, try as I might with wooden tools, I can't get it to stay tight up against the weave. Thanks vegasjames . I like that one too. I find I've really been gravitating towards the long thin shapes lately. Thanks jasoninsd , I don't know if the layering does anything or not, but it does get you to stop and look at the different stages. Washing it off each time you pull it may not stop the oxidation completely but it definitely retards the process. I added some ammonia to the LOS as I read a few different places that that helped with the intensity. My daddy always told me several thin coats were better than one thick one. This doesn't seem like that type of process, may very well be total bs, but who knows. It shouldn't hurt anything. The last batch that I did I used this method and its the best I've done so far. That's generally MY role in everything I'm doing!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2022 16:22:22 GMT -5
rockbrainBeautiful work Gary! Love the last one, it’s very elegant!
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