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Post by Sabre52 on Apr 6, 2018 16:43:32 GMT -5
Looks like maybe an Agua Nueva agate out of Mexico. They often have the moss with fortifications....Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Apr 4, 2018 13:22:29 GMT -5
Now that's a necklace to grunt and beat your chest over. Tim the tool man would love that...Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 31, 2018 22:22:43 GMT -5
Don't forget to take pics *S*....Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 31, 2018 22:19:07 GMT -5
Nice! Looks similar to the crinoidal limestone we have here in Texas. Try optical grade cerium on leather for a nicer polish. Just wet the pad enough to create a little drag and watch for the heat buildup which will cause those cracks..Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 31, 2018 19:28:08 GMT -5
When I sell tumble rough to RTH friends, I figure about $1.50 per pound plus shipping, usually $45 delivered for 20-25 pounds in US in MFR box. Always thought that was pretty fair since online rockshops are generally much higher....Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 30, 2018 17:39:22 GMT -5
Most the science on the ancient lake says it was fresh water ergo no conchs. Also , if it was the big queen conch, the range is the Gulf of Mexico, Caribbean, east coast of SA, Mexico central America etc. Would expect none in a extension of the Gulf of California which is what that old sea would have been if it were a salt water body. Shell was probably left by someone.
Now if it was not a conch and rather one of the Murex shells, The Baja Amerinds utilized those and traded the snails and shells all over. Used them for food primarily and probably ornaments. Shoot. Possible even a conch shell could have bee moved in trade from one of the Texas gulf tribes. I've found Dentalium ( Tooth Shells) and Olivella shells clear out on the eastern Mojave by Owens lake and they come from the NW and SW coasts of the US....Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 30, 2018 12:14:10 GMT -5
Wowser! What a great batch. #19 is really awesome...Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 28, 2018 18:50:11 GMT -5
I've never had a lot of the Lagos de Fuego material but what I did have was all either vein material or thin shelled broken nodules. Didn't look like your pic but I only had a few pounds. Yours looks Moroccan to me too. I thought Dryhead initially too but it did not look quite right. I Googled Moroccan agate images and checked my Zenz books and that mad me lean towards one of the nodular Moroccan types from Zaer-Zaiane. Zenz shows some very like your example.....Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 27, 2018 18:46:30 GMT -5
Just a guess based on the color scheme etc but I'd guess Oaxaca,Mexico . Lots of that sort of travertine onyx down there and that's where the ocean wave travertine comes from that also has wavy banded and straight lined examples. Another similar one comes out of Bhutan and is sold as rainbow onyx and I saw another sold as Gobi stone at a show once. Think it was a bit brighter in color though...Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 23, 2018 17:50:19 GMT -5
Beautiful camera work and beautiful rocks!...Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 21, 2018 17:10:35 GMT -5
Only thing I had in my search was a worn our caudal vertebrae but I'm not much of a fossil guy at all so you may well be correct. Tried to look up what kid of vertebrate fossils they find down that way and had little luck.
accidintalrockhound, Yep piece on far left is shrinkwood. One to right of it is palm shrinkwood....Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 20, 2018 21:20:15 GMT -5
Nice! I like the cheetah too....Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 20, 2018 21:17:44 GMT -5
Yeah, the rough I once had looked like the material Minerkin posted. Guess your material is just heavily included. I've not seen that type before but the stuff I had was many moons ago. Googled images and some of them do look like your type of material.Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 20, 2018 18:31:42 GMT -5
Hmmm.I'm wondering if your Mtorolite was misidentified. I've had examples in the past that were just deep dark green chalcedony, hard and like chrysoprase except dark chrome green. Totally unlike what you have pictured, just solid agate with no texturing at all. Is your example soft enough to be verdite because that's more what it looks like to me. The one below it is Green Zebra Agate from the Deccan Plateau in India. Love the Fallon Wonderstone and that humongous Morgan Hill!....Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 20, 2018 15:11:02 GMT -5
Google damascus billets for sale. Ton of different patterns and one nine inch, forty dollar billet could make a bunch of cabs....Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 20, 2018 9:41:05 GMT -5
Wow, that's a good'un!......Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 20, 2018 9:39:53 GMT -5
Wow, now there's great idea for a manly bola tie stone for an avid blade collector. Would match yore knife blade. Damascus billets are not all that expensive to buy but I don't know how easy they would be to grind on a cab machine. Hardness of mohs 5-6 or so, I'd think, so pretty doable. Think you'd have to do something about rust though as damascus rusts easily. Cool concept though!....Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 19, 2018 14:46:06 GMT -5
Cool! Meg and a mako. Does seem a bit strange for your area as those have to look of stuff you'd find in the SE US. Would seem to be pretty cool things to plant just to mess with ya though....Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 18, 2018 18:43:28 GMT -5
Not to jump on NRG's post but yes Lavic is a true brecciated jasper/agate similar to Stoney Creek or Stone Canyon chert but actually much fancier IMHO as far as combinations of colors go and a big difference is the lack of fractures, as Lavic seems to be a less seismic zone and the jasper from there is seldom heavily fractured like California Coast range cherts are. Lavic also has some really nice true moss and plume agates that are a lot different than the coast range cherts. The coast range stuff is chert because it's mainly of Franciscan Formation marine origin while Lavic is a volcanic deposit and, far as I know, a true Jasper/agate....Mel
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 18, 2018 10:46:35 GMT -5
Yeah, the problem with purchased material is you are dependent on the seller for identification, origin etc. Puddingstone is a conglomerate formed of mixed loose jasper or other types of pieces, sometimes rounded by erosion first and usually heterogeneous in nature, and then sealed by another material , often silica or calcite. Think of concrete. Brecciated jasper is a hunk of jasper that has been shattered, often by seismic forces and then rehealed by chalcedony while in situ. Breccias often occur in a large vein like Stone Canyon jasper and the pieces in the breccia are usually homogeneous in nature because it's essentially one shattered stone.
I would consider the pictured example to be a conglomerate rather than a breccia as the fragments included appear more heterogeneous, composed of multicolored jasper fragments and some quartz fragments and the cementing material in your example and mine is not a chalcedony infilling of fractures but rather a siliceous mix of come kind, but that's just my personal opinion.
Oddly, when I was searching for a origin for this material I found one post of a cabochon saying it was a breccia from Lavic Siding. Not saying it could not have come from there, but I've hunted Lavic a lot of times over my fifty years of collecting and have not seen that type of breccia/conglomerate from that site. Also, generally, Ron of Ron's Rocks, is a pretty knowledgeable guy as for as origins are concerned....Mel
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