stefan
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Post by stefan on Mar 2, 2007 14:50:30 GMT -5
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Mar 2, 2007 14:52:48 GMT -5
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snowdog
fully equipped rock polisher
RIP David Fildes, aka: snowdog
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Post by snowdog on Mar 2, 2007 14:59:07 GMT -5
saw them both ---- Please don't make me push the "buy it" button !! ;D
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Mar 2, 2007 15:05:59 GMT -5
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Post by larrywyland3 on Mar 2, 2007 15:42:44 GMT -5
Would running the genie with a generator be bad for the motor?
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Post by deb193 on Mar 2, 2007 15:50:15 GMT -5
Well with 8 or 9 days left, I am sure the price will shoot up. I am a really big fan of used equipment. The price of new is very steep. But I have never seen the value of used Genies. We had somewhat this discussion when BearCreek put his used Genie up on ebay. Unless stated that the wheel(s) are new, you do not know how soon you will need to lay out for new wheels. In the 1st auction, the estimated life is 50% left, with one wheel needing to be changed now. The used Genies often sell for well over $700. There are alternatives (admittedly the finish is not as nice) that have as good or better a setup for $700 - New! (or upgrade to a 8x2" for only $200 more. - Compare that to a Titan!) www.amber-werx.com/equipment/new/ezkutter.htmlThis machine has 6x2" wheels instead of 6x1.5. There are new spritzers, new motor, new pumps, and new diamond wheels. I bought my used Star Engineering unit for $188 and have put another $100 into it and it still is not operating. I bought my Inland Swap-Top for $179, and have since bought a number of $15 bits (about $75 worth). I paid $110 for my Rock Rascal, and then spent $100 on some diamond wheels to put on it. Say about $652 total. I did all this because I never had $700 in hand at one time, and because I thought I could get the job done on the cheap, and because I did not know about the EZKutter. I kept looking at the cost of Genie (or similar) and figuring I had to find some much lower cost alternative. (Also, in all honesty, I mainly wanted the courser grits with plans to tumble finish, so a 6station machine did not seem like a good fit for me.) I sure wish I had spent that $652 on an EZKutter. I think I would ahve bargained for about $75 off for leaving off the 14,000 wheel, which I would have replaced with an expandable drum. I guess I should also say I have never talked with anyone who ownes one of these, and I have heard from many happy Genie Owners. Snowdog, why not buy one of these and report back to us? (just teasing).
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Post by Tweetiepy on Mar 2, 2007 15:55:14 GMT -5
I thought on the first one that if it was only used for one year, either it was used improperly or it was used more than one year, don,t diamond wheels last much longer than those
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Post by MrP on Mar 3, 2007 7:06:53 GMT -5
That is a large differance in price. Hope sombody can tell us if the EZKutter is any good. A lot of times you get what you pay for, but maybe this is the real deal?.....MrP
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Post by larrywyland3 on Mar 3, 2007 8:27:48 GMT -5
I have an ezkutter. Kurt designed and built it. He is the one who taught me to cab stones. He has been rockhounding and cabbing and teaching classes for well over 30 years. The machine itself is solid. Some of the wheels he resurfaces himself and they are bumpy to start off with and most of the time break in nice. After my original wheels wore out I bought new Nova wheels. I bought mine used from him and have been running it for almost 2 years; with no problems. The original metal 100 grit wheel must grow diamonds overnight as it is still going strong. I bought the 4 inch wheel set up. The wheels are real easy to get on and off. Some parts of it look home made, but it works great and for the savings it was worth it to me. Kurt is in his late 70's and he may not respond to inquireries to timely. If anyone has trouble getting in touch in with him his phone number is in the contact information. He spends some of the year in CA, but his son lives at his house and may be able to get you in touch with him. If you need more info let me know post or pm.
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Mar 3, 2007 17:41:45 GMT -5
Got a Picture of the EZ cutter??? Daniel- I know exactly what you mean I'm not in that deep- but I've got about $500 into my machine- and I'm looking at 80 and 220 Diamond wheels to replace one of my drums- But you could always sell all your stuff and wait for a used Genie? Tweet- I think the wheels were probably ABUSED- after a year they should still be in great shape- unless they were using it like Sands- I think he had to replace his wheels after a year due to the large volume of cabs he was cranking out!
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Post by deb193 on Mar 3, 2007 18:16:10 GMT -5
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Post by larrywyland3 on Mar 3, 2007 19:04:01 GMT -5
Mine is just about the same, but the rod the wheels are on is screwed into a concrete brick. Everything is on a grey primed 1inch plywood. I got an old towel under mine too. Thats too funny:)
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