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Post by helens on Apr 4, 2012 12:22:56 GMT -5
You know what? Maybe if Obama wins, we can send her a few picture rocks to see just how beautiful and fortunate the US is in our natural resources. As a woman who's willing to dig in the dirt, she'd probably appreciate it.
If Romney wins, and we sent his wife some picture rocks, she'd probably throw them in the trash because they are dirty. Spend 1 minute thinking about it PLEASE.
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Post by chassroc on Apr 4, 2012 12:24:54 GMT -5
Amazing...you guys will stop at nothing when it comes to Obama, but attacking Michelle for having a garden and inviting school children to join in...sheesh..give it a rest
Your 6 year complaint fascinates me...I've read about Organic Gardening for years and I practice it, mostly. I have not heard about it and a quick google didn't turn anything up...Might that be a reuirement for Commercial farms, not home gardens? Just curious where you are getting that from Charlie
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Post by jakesrocks on Apr 4, 2012 12:36:48 GMT -5
Helen, except for the photo op, I doubt very seriously if Michelle has dirtied her hands again in that garden. She has her herd of servants to do that for her. The only purpose of that garden of hers was to try to dictate to us what we should and shouldn't eat.
Charlie, I'd suggest you dig a little deeper, to see what is, and is not considered an organic garden. I too practice organic gardening. My property hasn't seen a bit of artificial, man made stuff dumped on it in the 18 years that I've owned it. I grow only heirloom varieties of vegetables, and save seed from year to year. None of the flowers growing in my yard are hybrids.
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Post by grayfingers on Apr 4, 2012 12:50:50 GMT -5
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Post by chassroc on Apr 4, 2012 12:54:29 GMT -5
Don, I asked the question about the 6 year requirement because you sounded as if you had some facts to back it up charlie
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Post by jakesrocks on Apr 4, 2012 12:58:33 GMT -5
OK Charlie. It may take a day or two, but I'll find my sources for you. Unfortunately, I gave all of my older copies of Organic Gardening magazine to a nursing home for the old folks to read. But with a little bit of digging, I should be able to find that info for you.
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Post by jakesrocks on Apr 4, 2012 13:23:27 GMT -5
Here's a starter for you Charlie. Especially the third item. This is the time on average that it takes to purge your soil of man made products, and build up natural organic substances in your soil.
Strategies to improve soil
Improve poor soil drainage by installing subsurface drainage. This can cost $1,250–$2,500 per hectare ($500–$1,000 per acre) and assumes that suitable outlets for the drainage water are available. Correct low pH soils with agricultural lime. Build up low organic matter soils with improved cropping practices. This is an ongoing strategy, taking up to 10 years. Soil organic matter levels can be increased by only 0.1–0.2 per cent per year. Manage nitrogen with legumes. Manage other nutrients with cropping practices, but if current levels of nutrients such as phosphorous or potassium are very low this can present some challenges Using suitable livestock manure makes it easier to maintain nutrient levels. Manure management will change on most farms to include on-farm composting
Healthy soils and farming practices that enhance the soil flora and fauna are essential on organic farms. Crop rotations should include both grass crops and broadleaf crops especially legumes to build up soil nitrogen. When planning the crop sequence consider how the needs and residues of one crop affect the next. Consider pest and nutrient management issues when planning the crop rotation. Use cover crops to reduce soil erosion. Cover crops also build soil organic matter and a diversity of soil bacteria, fungi, earthworms and other soil flora and fauna essential for recycling nutrients and building good soil structure.
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Post by chassroc on Apr 4, 2012 13:57:50 GMT -5
Don, I get what you are saying about it taking six years for non-organic material to leach from the soil, but the point is, who cares. You practice organic methods and so does she.
You are just like Obama, OMG
I don't think that the green police are going around saying Michelle Obama is not an Organic Gardener or that she doesn't have an Organic Garden or that anyone really cares except you.
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Post by jakesrocks on Apr 4, 2012 14:23:15 GMT -5
Not exactly Charlie. What I practice IS organic gardening in every sense of the word. What M.O. practices is NOT. Her garden, (if it still exists), is surrounded on all sides by lawns and flower gardens which are constantly having non organic products pumped in and onto them. Those very same non organic products leach into her garden, in effect making it non organic.
Did you notice that when she first announced that she was going to plant an organic garden, that the mainstream media was full of praise for her ? Did you also happen to notice how quickly the word "organic" was removed from her garden ? I suspect that one of Obama's green friends clued them in to the real meaning of the word. Suddenly it was Michelle's garden. Not Michelle's organic garden. Again, I'm surprised that Fox and the few other non mainstream media outlets didn't pick up on it. I certainly caught it on day one. And I'll add that at that time, I wasn't against Obama. I was willing to give him and his wife a chance, and see how they did.
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Post by grayfingers on Apr 4, 2012 14:35:16 GMT -5
Gardening with Michelle ;D ". . .it's time to follow her example and pull on a pair of $500 Tory Burch gardening boots, head out back, turn up the lawn and plant soon-to-be FDA-food-safety-regulated spinach seeds." www.renewamerica.com/columns/jeannieology/110324
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Post by jakesrocks on Apr 4, 2012 15:03:35 GMT -5
Gardening with Michelle ;D ". . .it's time to follow her example and pull on a pair of $500 Tory Burch gardening boots, head out back, turn up the lawn and plant soon-to-be FDA-food-safety-regulated spinach seeds." ;D ;D ;D Gotta love the truth.
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Post by helens on Apr 4, 2012 16:49:18 GMT -5
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Post by helens on Apr 4, 2012 17:06:35 GMT -5
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Post by helens on Apr 4, 2012 17:15:10 GMT -5
To keep going on women's clothes ... please check out the prices on regular Department Store women's clothing. A T-SHIRT can cost upwards of $1000... and that's for cotton. The rich feel poor because a shopping trip costs $10,000 at a regular department store... just why do you think Newt Gringrich needs a $400,000 credit line at Tiffany's? Because look, a fairly simple bracelet costs $155,000: www.tiffany.com/Shopping/Item.aspx?fromGrid=1&sku=23715945&mcat=148204&cid=288156&search_params=s+5-p+8-c+288156-r+-x+-n+6-ri+-ni+0-t+How many pieces can Newt buy? 2-3 and his credit's gone. What about his other mistress? Michelle Obama is an attorney... a Senior Partner can afford a $25,000 purse, let alone a $1,000 purse. To criticize THAT is comical. Do you even BEGIN to see the disconnect with the rest of the US and the Middle Class? They drop $100,000 on a poker chip, so what's the big deal that the middle class pays $50,000 in taxes? Why should anyone get all bothered about losing their Medicare, when premiums are only $3000 a year, and their toothbrush can cost that? Let them eat cake! And you want to ELECT that to OFFICE?
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Post by sandsman1 on Apr 4, 2012 20:50:03 GMT -5
come on you dont realy believe 160-IQ the man has to be fed everything he says word for word on a tv screen -- you can tell when the screen shuts down or is running slow he stands there like a dummy hemmin and hawin and usually says something he gets in trouble for -- i remember when they usta doit with a few cheat notes and there brain haha
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Post by jakesrocks on Apr 4, 2012 21:33:30 GMT -5
Hey sands, would you be talking about his comments to the U.S. Supreme Court just a couple days ago ? Obama has already started his push to minimize the Congress. It was stated just today that what he said to the Supreme Court borders on totalitarianism. Of course he's back peddling on his statements, as are his press secretary and others. But the cat's out of the bag. He's shown his true colors and intentions.
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Post by darstcreek77 on Apr 4, 2012 21:41:41 GMT -5
Drink the koolaid kids make excuses about the obama LETS PARTY THE NIGHT AWAY prezz . hes still not worth a warm jar of south Tx dog piss . the sooner we elect a real president that wll put this country back on track the better we will all be when GW Bush was president milk 2.68 a gal now 3.26 gas 1.71 now 3.85 no new drilling ,trillions TRILLIONs owed YOU DEMS are leading this country to ruin but who cares as long a dem is in office RIGHT .
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Post by sandsman1 on Apr 5, 2012 6:28:14 GMT -5
we gotta remember all these dems and reps that came out on the list for the commie/progressive party -- that was a big mistake on there part they where all proud of themselves cause they thought obummer was gonna be there Savior and was gonna make the united states all commies wile most of us where still sleeping -- but as big a dumb-ass as he is he wanted to rush it so he could take all the credit for it with his comrade's and he woke up too many AMERICANS and we started growing numbers and fighting back -- it really don't matter how many UN-American laws he creates himself in back rooms, he is now going against a force he cant beat American patriots -- THE KING IS DEAD AND WE WONT STAND FOR ANOTHER but we know who they are now and we all need to make sure we keep voting them out so they cant get a foot hold ever again -- when they came out with the list they should have been given 30 days to leave office and America if not be dragged from there homes and deported to a desert far away for being traitors so they could be all the commie they could be -- just not here in America
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