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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2013 17:07:51 GMT -5
Wow, cool salamander section too. I love Ensatina as there are so many color variations. I caught one in the high Sierra one time tht was incredible. When I was n college my Uncle had a ranch in the Santa Cruz Mountains. We we discussing the Giant Salamander ( Dicamptodon) in class with Dr. McGinnis and I mentioned they were common in the creek by my uncle's ranch. Sam says, they don't occur there. So I drove down and caught him one about a foot long. Now those boogers have huge teeth! While there I picked up a couple of big larval forms for a buddy. he put them in his fish tank. Bad mistake, those rascals chomped up every critter in the tank in a couple of days *L*. (Dicamptodon ensatus) yes, that is a large nestling mouse.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Oct 3, 2013 17:16:31 GMT -5
Scott, I saw that. Jogged my memory what the local ones look like - yes, the large blotched ensatina- This is the snow on the ground March 11, 1991 in Cuyamaca mountains And a couple pics of some local large-blotched The photo taken up at Bass Lake is definitely an intergrade. Supposedly can find them up at Palomar as well. (sorry for poor pic quality - pics of pics!)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2013 17:19:25 GMT -5
Interesting to hear about Palomar.
Nice pics of two decades ago!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2013 17:21:24 GMT -5
I love at Sabre52 was able to bring new science to the man who knew the most at the time! Spot on Mel!
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Post by rockpickerforever on Oct 3, 2013 17:23:57 GMT -5
Scott, the intergrade in the photo you posted was found in Julian, not too far south of Palomar. Not surprising that intergrades would be found there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2013 17:40:57 GMT -5
Scott, the intergrade in the photo you posted was found in Julian, not too far south of Palomar. Not surprising that intergrades would be found there. I am pretty sure the type locality for klauberi is Palomar. To learn of intergrades/hybrids there is really kinda cool.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2013 18:32:15 GMT -5
Well, I am certainly getting a lesson. I had never heard about or seen an ensatina or intergrade. Now I know everything there is to know on this planet. WooHoo. I really like this thread. Keep it up please.
Not a professional photographer but I did study photography at night for two years. Very expensive learning experience but I loved the hell out of it. Almost all of the classes I took were the artsy fartsy classes. I will get into that in another thread. Might be fun to do a photography thread. Not a how to but a bunch of pics that people are proud of.
Jean, I found the Yellowstone photos and I think one is almost exactly the same as yours only in color. Not sure if I should find your post of start another thread. Hard telling which thread we were in. lol
Scott, I am surprised that you know the Pentax 645. I finally got rid of it because it was so damn heavy. A 120 lens weighed about three pounds and was about the size of four large potatoes stuck together. My hand would not go around that lens.
Ok, back to lizards and stuff. My favorite is the little tiny horny toads we have here. Once you pick them up it is really difficult to get them to go back on the ground without hurting them. I forgot to get photos. Not sure but they may be underground by now. I guess they go underground. Jim
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Post by wireholic on Oct 4, 2013 10:40:41 GMT -5
I always wondered where the horny toads went at the end of summer! I remember as a kid in Carlsbad that the horny toads always disappeared right about the same time school started again
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Post by rockpickerforever on Oct 4, 2013 10:54:36 GMT -5
Jean, I found the Yellowstone photos and I think one is almost exactly the same as yours only in color. Not sure if I should find your post of start another thread. Hard telling which thread we were in. lol Scott, I am surprised that you know the Pentax 645. I finally got rid of it because it was so damn heavy. A 120 lens weighed about three pounds and was about the size of four large potatoes stuck together. My hand would not go around that lens. Jim, I found the thread (your thread, actually!) of the Yellowstone photos. The ones I added to it were in color, just faded a bit. forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/61544/hounding-areas-photos-added-yellowstoneThe first camera I used was also a Pentax, which had belonged to my grandmother. Not a 645, I believe they called it a K-body? Older, maybe 1950s, early 60s? Had interchangeable lenses, you had to manually set everything! My mom still has it. I have four reptile books written by a friend of ours, a Brit named Chris Mattison. They are all inscribed to us. He wrote the books, and took most of the photos. He used the K-body Pentax as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 11:41:51 GMT -5
In my recent googling I ran across Chris Mattison images. It seems he joined the new world and went digital. Kbody was awesome. My first was a Pentax ME-Super. Jim I workled for a pro photrographer in downtown LA for 18 months. I eyed the 645 when it came out. Glad I did not spend the dough. Next camera was digital and I am a Canon man now. And poor because of it. I can;t bring myself to buy a lens without a red ring around it.
More reptile photos? Jean got any ideas?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 12:15:22 GMT -5
A K-body was the first SLR camera that I owned. Sold it to help pay for the 645.
You may have noticed that the cover in my photo is not the same as the cover on your book. I added "Photo By Jim or James Brown" to the photo because the people that wrote it got on the cover and I didn't. The publisher was not going to publish the book until I sent in my photos. Kind of a sore spot. If I can find them and there is any left I will send a new cover with a signature for your book. I have signed covers for all the grand kids because they gave me some extra covers and one book. I went to probably the biggest book store on the planet and could not buy more of the books. They didn't even know where I might be able to find some. This was about six months after the book was published. Jim
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 12:28:36 GMT -5
In my recent googling I ran across Chris Mattison images. It seems he joined the new world and went digital. Kbody was awesome. My first was a Pentax ME-Super. Jim I workled for a pro photrographer in downtown LA for 18 months. I eyed the 645 when it came out. Glad I did not spend the dough. Next camera was digital and I am a Canon man now. And poor because of it. I can;t bring myself to buy a lens without a red ring around it. More reptile photos? Jean got any ideas? I now shoot an Olympus FE 340 8 meg point and shoot. Two things that I really like about it is that I can zoom in movie mode and the auto focus rides along, plus I can macro down to about 1 1/4 inch. I have an older Olympus digital SLR, 4 meg but I did not want to carry a camera that big when I went to China. I buy everything refurbished by the manufacturer. Super prices. Jim
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 12:35:43 GMT -5
Great knowledge Jim, thanks! I love you found features you liked BEFORE you bought the camera. That is so difficult.
I promise another array of reptile images. Just need a smidgen of inspiration. Somebody make a request and I'''' try hard to knock your socks off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 12:40:35 GMT -5
I have some 645 slides of a fat frog and some geckos. I am going to try putting a white screen on the computer and hang them in front of it. I tried glass in a door but I was picking up the outside and I was shaking holding them up and my camera. I am not sure if the scanner will work with slides. May be worth a try Jim
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Post by rockpickerforever on Oct 4, 2013 12:50:54 GMT -5
Jim, I used to have the book, no longer own it. I went looking for it yesterday and did not find it. Once we got out of raising snakes, we got rid of a bunch of the snake/reptile books that were in the bookcase (replaced them with rock books!). Someone, somewhere is making use of it. Scott, here's a few more pics. First one is a Long-nosed Leopard Lizard, Gambelia wislizenii. This dude was pretty cool, but had to noose lizards to feed it. Found it out at Swansea (old copper? mine) in AZ, NE of Quartzsite. May have already posted this one - trio of Green Tree Pythons (Morelia viridis) Next up, Ball Python (Python regius) around clutch of eggs. We only had one incubator, and it was set for colubrid eggs, which incubate at a lower temperature. She did not continue to incubate, so we put them in the too-cool incubator. It needed to be warmer, they didn't make it. We knew that, but didn't have any other options. Lastly, when snakes are hatching out, it's like opening presents at Christmas inside the incubator. Sort of like slicing rocks open and getting a treat! Unless you breed snakes (or watch a lot of nature shows) this is something the normal person doesn't get a chance to see often. These are two clutches from two female San Diego Mountain Kingsnakes (Lampropeltis zonata pulchra), circa mid 1980s. Kind of dark ones, but what the hey? First clutch. (Again, sorry for crummy photos, they are pics of old pics.) Second clutch These are normally lizard eaters, but they can be switched to mice. All hatchings and both moms got on a plane across the pond. What's next, @shotgunner?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 13:52:12 GMT -5
This is for Bikerrandy - Ball Pythons (Python regius)They come in lots of genetic variations. Most of them genetic. Some are recessive traits like albino, some have dominant traits and then it gets complicated with multi-gene expressions and multiple expressions of the same gene... I wont try a genetics lesson. I'll just showcase the pretties. The first is a chimaera. That is what I call "blended embryos". Twins were conceived but the babies blended early on and developed in parallel. This is documented in humans with a woman whose children do not show genetic match to her blood. Albino blended with heterozygous albino (normal color) multiple mutation for color and piebald - "Panda Pied" multiples are hot rightnow, so google is giving them preference. Two mutations "clown" for pattern" and super pastel" for color Black eyed white single gene - striped
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 13:57:53 GMT -5
butter pastel - two genes for color piebald single gene I have no clue what this is - "mystic potion" "super cinnamon" single gene butter pinstripe one gene for color and another for pattern no clue on this either - silver streak I can put up 200 images and every snake would have different genetics. Here is what they should look like.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 13:58:33 GMT -5
nice Z's jean! hard to reproduce those for sure.
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Post by wireholic on Oct 4, 2013 15:57:24 GMT -5
That Mystic potion looks like it would glow in the dark!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 18:52:19 GMT -5
That Mystic potion looks like it would glow in the dark! Indeed you are spot on! I had never heard of that one so I checked into it. It is double origin They mated a "Mojave" to a "mystic" and the specimens showing both expressions are apparently "mystic" potion. It gets weird though. Mojave is visibly carrying the gene for blue eyed white. So the next step after mystic potion may be some patternless blue eyed radioactive sewer monster.... lol who knows? edited to add------------- mystic potion is homozygous for the mystic gene and mojave is heterozygous for blue eyed white. In case anyone cares! lol
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