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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 17, 2014 9:46:17 GMT -5
LOL, you are too much! Familiar with Muscle Shoals, but Nixon and Watergate? Really? I know, it's in the song...
If I'm a swamper, why is it I can never keep it strait which is a crocodile, and which is an alligator? Are there any crocodiles down there, or just gators?
I only wish I was into rocks and artifacts back inmy younger days back there.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 17, 2014 10:43:58 GMT -5
You went from the driest to the wettest and back to the driest.
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Post by gingerkid on Aug 17, 2014 13:45:14 GMT -5
The red-bellies have beautiful markings. The Tennessee River is probably the most occupied by natives of all the rivers in the SE. Jean's Decatur a mecca for muscle divers. Lynyrd Skynyrd calls them swampers, from the area of the town of Muscle Shoals close to Jean's Decatur. Song written for Jean and her notorious reputation as a swamper. When the band was having a riff w/Neil Young. And Jean was responsible for watergate, influencing southern man w/the ways of Nixon. Poor child, times were crazy when you paid a visit to Alabama. You left your mark.ROFL!! There are gators in the Flint and Ochlockonee in south Georgia (Cairo and Bainbridge). A friend of mine caught a baby gator out of the Flint and took it home for a pet. We used to see gators at Lake Iamonia in northern Leon County (Tallahassee) hanging out in the water near the boat dock...waiting and watching...
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Post by jamesp on Aug 17, 2014 13:51:04 GMT -5
Licking their lips waiting for you Jan. Remember the cartoons when the guy would come out of the water wearing alligator shoes and toting an alligator suitcase. When one was spotted on Amelia Island it was pursued and killed. Gators entering salt water usually have a screw loose.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 17, 2014 14:37:48 GMT -5
With zero local knowledge, it is hard for my feeble brain to gather the flow of this drainage. Does it drain west into the Mississippi?? If you really want a feeble mind, get dropped in the Blue Ridge mountains, creeks flow N S W E, corkscrewing around and confusing the best. Look at Tennessee for instance, those are large creeks, then there is many more small creeks not shown. Add tall dark forest to complicate, then the hills, clouds blocking the sun and underbrush. However, lowlands, swamps and flood plains are the worst to navigate. No landmarks whatsoever. Trail books for low country are the only ones that have constellations of the 4 seasons for navigating out, at night of course. 1000 acres of lowland can confuse you for many hours as we tend to walk to the left or right. Road noise may be your best bet. The surveyer got lost on my 30 acres-4 distinct creeks(=4 ridge and valleys) and heavy under brush, Surveyers don't get lost !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 15:28:50 GMT -5
I got lost in primary rainforest in Costa Rica hunting stuff on a night with no moon. The calling of the frogs was 360o real life surround sound. The rivulet flowed in a squiggly path and under the canopy there was no obvious landmarks. We traveled in circles (probably) until 2-3 in the morning, then one of us (three cowboys on the trip) stepped over a log into the front lawn of the cabin we were staying...... like we were never lost! lol Herpers never get lost...
I was ready to wait for sunrise and hope for finding a road. We knew that was west and the sunrise would have spoken to us.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 17, 2014 15:39:29 GMT -5
You went from the driest to the wettest and back to the driest. Ain't that the truth! I'll take the sometimes high temps here, but you can keep your high humidity, James. That's why Alabama sucks, lol. So humid it'll make your hair curl...
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Post by jamesp on Aug 17, 2014 18:19:33 GMT -5
I got lost in primary rainforest in Costa Rica hunting stuff on a night with no moon. The calling of the frogs was 360 o real life surround sound. The rivulet flowed in a squiggly path and under the canopy there was no obvious landmarks. We traveled in circles (probably) until 2-3 in the morning, then one of us (three cowboys on the trip) stepped over a log into the front lawn of the cabin we were staying...... like we were never lost! lol Herpers never get lost... I was ready to wait for sunrise and hope for finding a road. We knew that was west and the sunrise would have spoken to us. Chilly feeling getting lost. Happens to the best of them.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 17, 2014 18:24:13 GMT -5
You went from the driest to the wettest and back to the driest. Ain't that the truth! I'll take the sometimes high temps here, but you can keep your high humidity, James. That's why Alabama sucks, lol. So humid it'll make your hair curl...
I would like to experience a one inch rain in the desert at 2PM and then have the sun come out immediately. I would imagine the evaporation off the hot rocks would make a steam bath.
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Post by nowyo on Aug 17, 2014 23:06:53 GMT -5
Finally had a chance to get through the whole thread. Looks like a real fun trip, and you all found a lot of noce coral. Thanks for taking us along.
Russ
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 17, 2014 23:52:18 GMT -5
I would like to experience a one inch rain in the desert at 2PM and have the sun come out immediately. I would imagine the evaporation off the hot rocks would make a steam bath. Ah, but you have it backwards, James. First you have the sun blazing down, the air temp is 105 degrees, everything is superhot to the touch. Rocks, especially the darker ones, are around 150 degrees or better surface temperature. Now you get your couple inches of rain, and have a sauna, rivaling the GA temp and humidity. Rainbows are awesome! A mass of saturated air, monsoon winds from the southeast, brings moisture up from the Gulf of California (aka, Sea of Cortez). Normal weather pattern would have moisture coming from the west off the ocean, rain would get dumped on the western flanks of the mountains. By the time the air mass has crested the mountains, there is no moisture left to fall. This is called the rainshadow effect, and the reason why the deserts do not get very much rain. But when the moisture comes in the backdoor from the southeast, it falls on the eastern slopes on the mountains. This is when we get flash floods, maybe upwards of 3" an hour falling on ground that may normally see that amount in an entire year. Way too much for the ground to absorb, the water gathers in the washes, roaring downstream as a flash flood. I have seen water flowing in some of the normally dry washes after a downpour, but have never seen the fury of a destructive flash flood.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 18, 2014 7:16:48 GMT -5
Guessing it would be much hotter and humid than Georgia. For a short time anyway. If the rocks are that hot and the radiation/temp it has to be a steam bath. Rainbows from the high humidity.
Your mountains have big effects on rain and weather in general. Causing dry areas for instance. You guys can travel a short distance to all kinds of have habitats. Must be nice.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 12:40:50 GMT -5
and then the scorpions come out that night in extraordinary numbers.
Made $5000 in one night once on just such a night! I was so lucky I had a full case of paper bags to put them in.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 18, 2014 12:59:28 GMT -5
and then the scorpions come out that night in extraordinary numbers. Made $5000 in one night once on just such a night! I was so lucky I had a full case of paper bags to put them in. Why, does the rain water push them out of burrows ? that's a bunch of money for a night's work.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 13:06:39 GMT -5
I think they came out to drink from the minute puddles of water formed between pebbles on the highway. Or their burrows were too wet. Or, or, or......
I had just bought a bundle of 1000 #2 paper bags, one scorp per bag. I'd grab a handful of bags, go fill them. Move the car a hundred yards and do it again. It took a few hours, probably could have doubled that had I had the bags. I called three wholesalers and sold them all for $5 a head. Slept good that night! lol
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Post by jamesp on Aug 18, 2014 14:40:44 GMT -5
I think they came out to drink from the minute puddles of water formed between pebbles on the highway. Or their burrows were too wet. Or, or, or...... I had just bought a bundle of 1000 #2 paper bags, one scorp per bag. I'd grab a handful of bags, go fill them. Move the car a hundred yards and do it again. It took a few hours, probably could have doubled that had I had the bags. I called three wholesalers and sold them all for $5 a head. Slept good that night! lol That would be a work out. 6 digits for 20 days work- I'm in. Remarkable income. I like compressed intense work- get it done and be free. Age forces decompressed less intense-ha. Could build a scorpion vacuum.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 15:33:06 GMT -5
20 days!! Haha....
The problem is there may be only one or two nights like that a year and then other years are zero. It's not reliable.
BUT, with modern weather tech and the internet one can predict where to go for the best opportunity. But for me time and family deny this.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 18, 2014 15:59:24 GMT -5
Sometimes, you just get lucky, and happen to be in the right spot at the right time, lol!
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Post by jamesp on Aug 18, 2014 20:23:22 GMT -5
Pursuing opportunity by design.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 18, 2014 20:34:41 GMT -5
But only if you have permission.
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