jamesp
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Post by jamesp on May 22, 2015 11:32:54 GMT -5
Our caring EPA sends potentially pollutive processes overseas to create pollution over there where they are unrestricted and sloppy with waste. Therefore reducing manufacturing costs so we can bring the product back cheap.
We will end up as a giant national park full of wardens and park rangers. Non polluted albeit. A country full of laptops. Who is going to make products ? Overseas folks. Can't melt, can't weld, can't sand blast, can't paint, probably can't wipe the way things are going. Reality is pollution. It can be greatly reduced with technology. The overseas folks are beginning to do that too. They are light years ahead of us. They dominate rare metals, nuclear fuel, apparently lead soon, where does it stop ?
Regulation is one thing, extinction is another. There has been a huge lack of balance in regulation that is shutting the country down. HELLO country is shutting down, earth to regulators, we are sinking.
Nursery inspector comes to my nursery and writes me up for some weeds. not the ones you smoke ha. I always stare off to the buzzards SE of my place enjoying the thermals off the bluff. Hoping that she will relate to the disdain I have for her wasting my time and energy. And trespassing. Surprise visits. To do business in this county I have to have a nursery license. The license clearly states that I must allow these inspectors on my property. She does not even know or see the noxious weeds. And I'll be damned if I am going to educate her. At least send some one that knows plants. Classic case of revenuers.
The inspector before her would not hardly walk the grounds and do an inspection. He just came by to get my signature proving he came here. Perfect. Perfect waste of tax money and no hassles for james. LOL james is happy.
So not only do they slow production, they know little about what they are hired to inspect. Or take advantage of tax payers money.
Don't know schnitt and take advantage of the people. People lose. Govt employee gets paid. Cancer, it is cancer.
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on May 22, 2015 11:42:56 GMT -5
You went right over Charlie's head with that one james. Don't forget to save all of the old lead tire balance weights you can get. If you're casting hollow points, collect up all of the old mercury switches & thermometers you can find too. Mercury loads are great. I load polycarbonate tipped boat tails that do clean kills. Split 6 ways and bust flesh to pieces etc. Spend good money on them. The ole magnum will sling a pure lead bullet too. Not such an efficient kill. Little battery acid mixed in there probably won't effect the stainless barrel. Not the best ammo, but would get the job done. mercury, holy cow. That would be a regulator --I mean regulation load.
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megalotis
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Post by megalotis on May 22, 2015 13:00:56 GMT -5
I generally support local government control (generally). It's really easy to go off as the result of an article that may or may not be accurate. Bias in the form of lies and exaggeration are not exceptional occurrences in this old world. So from one article I can't garner enough information to have any kind of opinion on the matter.
One caveat to throw in the ring: the municipalities around these parts went through a period a few years ago where they expanded exponentially, so that now, areas where my boys and I used to hunt doves and quail are now off-limits. Unfortunately, even if you're out in the desert, with no residence in site, on either state or federal land, you're now in the city limits of Phoenix or Surprise or Peoria or...
So I don't know the whole story, but if, in the case of the Texas town, it has expanded over a large area surrounding the actual urban city, and then declared THAT off limits to fracking, we might have some justification for the Governor's action. As I say, I don't know. But it's good to be open to facts, whatever they may be. There may well be a lot more to the story than the possibly agenda-driven author has let on.
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on May 22, 2015 13:36:38 GMT -5
I agree megalotis. Jacksonville FL. was once or is the biggest city in the world land wise. They simply annexed the all of Duval county. Probably for revenue in areas they don't even provide services for. That's not right.
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Post by 1dave on May 22, 2015 13:40:02 GMT -5
Yes ... metals are part of the environment lead as well as gold and silver but what's your point? Are you debunking all the articles about lead's toxicity? Are you suggesting we should not worry about regulating lead and other heavy metals? Should we start putting lead back in gasoline? Charlie NO! I'm proposing TEACHING COMMON SENSE in our schools instead of all the propaganda now being doled out. If you KNOW a product is a problem, don't buy it. The manufacturer will stop making it. Don't make coffee mugs out of clay with lead in it. Who wants to kill off their customers? Ever wonder where the Spaniards got all those tons of mercury for their arrastras? Hint: one place is it is pouring off all those volcanic California mountains into the ocean and increasing the weight of all those fish. That has been happening as long as there has been a California. Why hasn't California passed a law against that?
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Post by Rockoonz on May 29, 2015 10:58:11 GMT -5
1dave are you suggesting that young minds should be trained in critical thinking? What a silly thought! A generation entering adulthood with fully functional BS detectors could do much to topple the current power structure, but common core and basic indoctrination in our schools will prevent that.
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megalotis
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Post by megalotis on May 29, 2015 15:11:14 GMT -5
True critical thinking is a rare commodity, indeed. I remember my "Critical Thinking" course at grad school. It was composed of reviewing a conservative position on something, then a rebuttal from a leftist viewpoint, which of course completely squashed the conservative's opinion. Every time.
But a few of us critical thinkers in the class then took the time to actually verify the information provided, and we found that, universally, the conservatives' points were verified by facts, and the lefty points were just made up nonsense. Not at all what our esteemed perfesser was trying to impart...so in the end, we learned a couple of things about critical thinking: - Just because a school offers curriculum pertaining to critical thinking doesn't mean any such thing will actually be taught. - Beware of propaganda disguised as critical thinking.
I like to think that we all have a built-in BS-ometer, but I get taken in now and then with things that I want to believe that just ain't so.
Maybe distrust and verify is the best path forward?
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Post by jakesrocks on May 29, 2015 15:40:33 GMT -5
Damn that critical thinking !! Gets me in trouble with certain folks on here every time another election is coming around. LOL
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Post by 1dave on Jun 4, 2015 0:16:07 GMT -5
True critical thinking is a rare commodity, indeed. I remember my "Critical Thinking" course at grad school. It was composed of reviewing a conservative position on something, then a rebuttal from a leftist viewpoint, which of course completely squashed the conservative's opinion. Every time. But a few of us critical thinkers in the class then took the time to actually verify the information provided, and we found that, universally, the conservatives' points were verified by facts, and the lefty points were just made up nonsense. Not at all what our esteemed perfesser was trying to impart...so in the end, we learned a couple of things about critical thinking: - Just because a school offers curriculum pertaining to critical thinking doesn't mean any such thing will actually be taught. - Beware of propaganda disguised as critical thinking. I like to think that we all have a built-in BS-ometer, but I get taken in now and then with things that I want to believe that just ain't so. Maybe distrust and verify is the best path forward? Interesting how that happens when Progressives are running the schools.
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chassroc
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Post by chassroc on Jun 4, 2015 14:42:55 GMT -5
Yes ... metals are part of the environment lead as well as gold and silver but what's your point? Are you debunking all the articles about lead's toxicity? Are you suggesting we should not worry about regulating lead and other heavy metals? Should we start putting lead back in gasoline? Charlie NO! I'm proposing TEACHING COMMON SENSE in our schools instead of all the propaganda now being doled out. If you KNOW a product is a problem, don't buy it. The manufacturer will stop making it. Don't make coffee mugs out of clay with lead in it. Who wants to kill off their customers? ... I don't mean to pick on you Dave, but there is no common sense and much nonsense in that statement. "Who wants to kill off their customers?" ehhh...The Tobacco Industry maybe. Charlie
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jun 4, 2015 17:33:34 GMT -5
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Post by parfive on Jun 5, 2015 0:21:35 GMT -5
. . . that puppy’s just beggin’ for a teabag.
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Post by 1dave on Jun 6, 2015 13:14:16 GMT -5
NO! I'm proposing TEACHING COMMON SENSE in our schools instead of all the propaganda now being doled out. If you KNOW a product is a problem, don't buy it. The manufacturer will stop making it. Don't make coffee mugs out of clay with lead in it. Who wants to kill off their customers? ... I don't mean to pick on you Dave, but there is no common sense and much nonsense in that statement. "Who wants to kill off their customers?" ehhh...The Tobacco Industry maybe. Charlie/quote] As there are in most of yours. Anything can be twisted. We help others or we steal from others? You see the world through your prejudices, and I through mine. How liberals can ignore the murder of billions of unborn babies, but organize huge protest demonstrations to stop the execution of murderers is insanity to me. There are thousands of other examples.
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